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The 14th Amendment's citizenship clause is a constitutional provision, and as such, it cannot be abolished or altered by a presidential executive order.

Here's why:

1. _Constitutional supremacy_: The Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and executive orders cannot override or amend constitutional provisions.
2. _Separation of powers_: The Constitution establishes a system of checks and balances among the three branches of government. The President cannot unilaterally alter the Constitution or laws passed by Congress.
3. _Due process and judicial review_: Any attempt to abolish or alter the 14th Amendment's citizenship clause would likely be challenged in court. The judiciary would review the constitutionality of such an action, and it would likely be deemed unlawful.

To amend the 14th Amendment, a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate, or a national convention called by two-thirds of the state legislatures, would be required. Any proposed amendment would then need to be ratified by three-fourths of the states.

In summary, a presidential executive order cannot abolish or alter the 14th Amendment's citizenship clause. Any changes to the Constitution require a deliberate, bipartisan, and constitutionally prescribed process.

Don't stop birthright citizenship please. I no support you for this one

004gist:
Let him end it. People that benefit from that are our politicians. They send their wives n girlfriends there to deliver just to claim citizenship.

While they refuse to fix this country

This is a good point.

make my.wife born first before he take.office.
this man second coming.na.war

How I wish all Nigerians can be ban from leaving their country and their leaders are not allowed to stay abroad more than 2days I swear it won't take 6months before this country will massively developed


Leaders will seat tight

Citizens with no option won't give nonchalant vibes.

chopnaira:
President-elect Donald Trump has said he will look at pardons for those involved in the 2021 US Capitol riot on his first day back in office next month.

"These people are living in hell," he told NBC's Meet the Press in his first broadcast network interview since winning November's election.

The Republican also vowed to end automatic citizenship for anyone born in the country, but offered to work with Democrats to help some undocumented immigrants who were brought to the US as children.

In the wide-ranging sit-down, which was recorded on Friday, Trump promised to issue "a lot" of executive orders, including on immigration, energy and the economy, after he is inaugurated on 20 January.

While he suggested he would not seek a justice department investigation into Joe Biden, he said that some of his political adversaries, including lawmakers who investigated the Capitol riot, should be jailed.

Trump was asked whether he would seek to pardon the hundreds of people convicted of involvement in that riot, when supporters of his stormed Congress three months after his defeat in the 2020 election.

"We're going to look at independent cases," he said. "Yeah, but I'm going to be acting very quickly."

"First day," he added.

Trump continued: "You know, by the way, they've been in there for years, and they're in a filthy, disgusting place that shouldn't even be allowed to be open."

The president-elect made other news in the NBC interview aired on Sunday:

He offered a caveat on whether he would keep the US in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (Nato): "If they're paying their bills, and if I think they're doing a fair - they're treating us fairly, the answer is absolutely, I'd stay with Nato"

Trump said he would not seek to impose restrictions on abortion pills, though when asked to make a guarantee, he added: "Well, I commit. I mean... things change".

The Republican said Ukraine should "probably" expect less aid when he returns to the White House.

Trump said he thinks "somebody has to find out" if there is a link between autism and childhood vaccines - an idea that has been ruled out by multiple studies around the world. Trump suggested his nominee for health secretary, vaccine sceptic Robert F Kennedy Jr, would look into the matter.

The president-elect repeated his promise that he will not seek to cut Social Security, nor raise its eligibility age, though he said he would make it "more efficient", without offering further details

Pressed on whether his plan to impose tariffs on imports from major US trading partners would raise consumer prices for Americans, he said: "I can't guarantee anything. I can't guarantee tomorrow".

On the subject of immigration, Trump told NBC he would seek through executive action to end so-called birthright citizenship, which entitles anyone born in the US to an American passport, even if their parents were born elsewhere.

Birthright citizenship stems from the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution, which states that "all persons born" in the United States "are citizens of the United States".

"We're going to have to get it changed," Trump said. "We'll maybe have to go back to the people. But we have to end it."

Trump also said he would follow through on his campaign pledge to deport undocumented immigrants, including those with family members who are US citizens.

"I don't want to be breaking up families," he said, "so the only way you don't break up the family is you keep them together and you have to send them all back."

Trump also said he wants to work with Congress to help so-called Dreamers, undocumented immigrants who were shielded under an Obama-era programme, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, which Trump once attempted to scrap.

"I will work with the Democrats on a plan," he said, adding that some of these immigrants have found good jobs and started businesses.

Trump seemed to offer mixed signals on whether he would follow through on his repeated vows to seek retribution against political adversaries.

Outgoing US President Joe Biden this week issued a sweeping pardon to his criminally convicted son, Hunter. The Democrat is reported to be considering other blanket pardons for political allies before he leaves office next month.

Trump seemed to indicate that he would not seek a special counsel investigation into Biden and his family, as he once vowed.

"I'm not looking to go back into the past," he said. "I'm looking to make our country successful. Retribution will be through success."

But he also said that members of the now-defunct, Democratic-led House of Representatives committee that investigated him "should go to jail".

One member of the panel, former Republican congresswoman Liz Cheney, hit back at Trump on Sunday.

She said his comment that members of the committee should be jailed was a "continuation of his assault on the rule of law and the foundations of our republic".

In his NBC interview Trump also said he would not direct the FBI to pursue investigations against his foes.

But he also told the network: "If they were crooked, if they did something wrong, if they have broken the law, probably.

"They went after me. You know, they went after me, and I did nothing wrong."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj30er1d6mxo.amp

It's gonna be a NEW WORLD order from January 2025 with this dude coming in. Citizenship by birth is at the very foundation of what defines the United States of America. If that plan and more kick in arbitrarily, then it'll be a dent on the United States... The land of the free-spirited that welcomed low income, genuine, hardworking immigrants majorly through Ellis Island from majority European countries, Asia, and much later Africa.

If you have spare money to bet, he cannot cancel birth right citizenship.

lonelydora:
It is his country, he can do whatever he wishes with it.

What Trump is saying with all these is......don't spoil your country and run to America. Stay and fix your country.

simple and short, stay in your country and fix it and thing Is when those immigrants get to America they start full time misbehaving

SirLakes:
wahala

to enter USA go hard die. Make your shithóle great and leave US alone

To get visa enter US during the next 4 years will be harder than the proverbial rich man entering heaven and the camel through the needle eyes.

How do you use executive action to change something entrenched in the constitution without going through the US congress? This guy is delusional.

TruthDefender:
A US President CAN'T end birthright citizenship by executive action.

Congress can launch the constitutional amendment process and then send it to the states for ratification. But such a resolution takes a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate, which is highly unlikely at this time of divided government, and ratification by three-fourths of the states.

In layman's terms. It's impossible to achieve that with the divided nature of US politics at present

The guy is talking to his uneducated supporters to hype them up or he is uneducated himself.

abbey621:
What was the moral justification for Biden pardoning his son?

I don't know, please tell us.

Bimpe29:
I don't know, please tell us.

There's none so let's leave moprality out of it, presidents can pardon whomever they want!

004gist:
Let him end it. People that benefit from that are our politicians. They send their wives n girlfriends there to deliver just to claim citizenship.

While they refuse to fix this country

what I want even is to strip anyone born in US their citizenship so long their parents were not born there as well starting from when America was founded.shekina

planetx:
To get visa enter US during the next 4 years will be harder than the proverbial rich man entering heaven and the camel through the needle eyes.

swears! Trump no send anybody papa.

if Tinubu fams him sef he go call am name like he did our dearest lifeless president

Na this kind of president deserve 16 years in office as the president of America.😂😂😂😂

Lunatic

IPDGP:
Trump is doing what is best for his country , no bad feeling if it affects any non indigenes.
Anyway let's see how it goes once he resume office in January

He is just gaslighting and playing to the gallery.

Birthright citizen is guaranteed by the 14th Constitutional amendment, even congress passing a bill in both Houses and that bill getting signed into law by Trump cannot end Birthright citizenship, talkless of an Executive Order from Trump.

hartson:
what I want even is to strip anyone born in US their citizenship so long their parents were not born there as well starting from when America was founded.shekina

He cannot do that, that would requirement a constitutional amendment which is in impossible, because a two-third vote must be gotten in congress plus a three-fourth of all states would have to approve it.....Practically, It is impossible.

RodgersAkpafu:
I mean with what have happened over the last 5 years
Anything is possible
America has really fallen from grace

So don't be surprised when they start breaking their own laws

Their Supreme Court interpreted the law that the president cannot be charged of crime while he was working... However that impunity doesn't apply to his officials. If he gives such order and they don't resign, they would be jailed for a very long time (after he leaves office) for kidnapping and "deportation" American citizens.

If someone by birth is not a citizen, tomorrow they can just throw a regular citizens to his ancestral home since 99% of them are not indigenous to North America. They came from Europe and West Africa.

MeIvin:
Here in the States, real Americans sees Trump as a man for the moment

Kindly define 'Real Americans'

geewean:
Na this kind of president deserve 16 years in office as the president of America.😂😂😂😂

Someone over 15K miles away in another land now an expert on what a President Of the USA should be like? This is someone who does not pay any taxes into the treasury coffer nor have any vested interest whatsoever in the Country

linearity:
He is just gaslighting and playing to the gallery.

Birthright citizen is guaranteed by the 14th Constitutional amendment, even congress passing a bill in both Houses and that bill getting signed into law by Trump cannot end Birthright citizenship, talkless of an Executive Order from Trump.

Trump is just talking nonsense.
To make this happen, he needs 2/3 of the Senate votes, a majority of the House votes, and 2/3 of the States in the Union to ratify it. Goodluck getting 66 votes in the Senate.

chopnaira:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj30er1d6mxo.amp

Nice one Mr. President. It is your country fix it. Let the slave's go home and fix their homes.

I am a chartered accountant and my PAYE tax is deducted with full compliance in Nigeria.

So know from your intelligence bank, the only way to know who knows a good policy in an age where knowledge is liberalised globally is by being a tax payer and an investor.


So now Cubana chief priest aka Owerri Rick Ross obviously pays more tax and has more investment than you in Nigeria knows and understands the political and economic policies of Nigeria better than you shey.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


Most times,try to think before you come here to drop any comment here in God's name I beg you so.🙏🙏🙏🙏

Until I start paying tax in America or live in America that's when I will know what's a good policy in America.

I hope you aren't one of those adults who uses his data to engage only Brainjotter, Gistlover,Sabinus and pornographic contents online . Because it's folks like that who the concept of globalization reality is foreign to them will make vocal emissions like this in text format

t2luv1:
Someone over 15K miles away in another land now an expert on what a President Of the USA should be like? This is someone who does not pay any taxes into the treasury coffer nor have any vested interest whatsoever in the Country

malali:
DONT FORGET HE SAID HE WILL BUILD A WALL BORDER BETWEEN MEXICO AND THE USA.



THERE WAS NO WALL BUILT.

He said he will end the invasion of Ukraine within 24 hours, I just dey here dey laugh

optimusprime2:
Because of the Trump effect, Canada, Europe, Australia, China, Russia, the middle east & the UK are all on their feet & for the first time in a long while... they are all thinking normally...

My joy is that this man's coming will make right thinking leaders to wake up, fix their countries and put their common wealth first!

Enough of this entitlement to someone else's country when your own is in shambles.

Enough of using flawed policies devoid of common sense in the name of some nonsense woke liberalism, while rational thinking people bear the brunt of the flawed policies.


God bless that man.

This is the dumbest and ignorant sh1t I've ever heard

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It is a Constitutional issue that will end in a long drawn battle. It is not as easy as seen...the same goes with fighting against the right to bear arms.

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Flamemignon1:
This is the dumbest and ignorant sh1t I've ever heard

I will accept your statement if you define what is dumb and ignorant in what I said

lilfreezy:
I love this man. All those stupid politicians who benefit from such! Should focus on fixing their country

Shey you know politician can buy citizenship? I laugh

optimusprime2:
I will accept your statement if you define what is dumb and ignorant in what I said

I don't know, maybe it's you mixing up coincidences when the culture war was shifting right before Trump or you blaming immigrants for the economic mess in western countries to uplift white supremacy, where do I even start?

Flamemignon1:
I don't know, maybe it's you mixing up coincidences when the culture war was shifting right before Trump or you blaming immigrants for the economic mess in western countries to uplift white supremacy, where do I even start?

What is obvious from your reply is that, like other global leaders, you are also clearly admitting that there is a fundamental problem... because you don't even know where to start in defence of your justification, or perhaps you are either too woke, not bold enough or just too politically correct to call a spade "a spade"

Which is my point.

Objectively speaking, you have nothing to say if I ask you specific "Why's"... except state the obvious.

Once again I am sooooo glad Trump is back. The whole world needed a restart kick.