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| Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Bobloco(op): 12:33am On Dec 11, 2024 |
The Revenue Mobilisation, Allocation and Fiscal Commission (RMAFC) has opposed President Bola Ahmed Tinubu’s controversial tax reform bills currently before the National Assembly for consideration.https://tribuneonlineng.com/tax-reform-bills-rmafc-opposes-proposed-vat-sharing-formula/amp/
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| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Frigga13: 12:40am On Dec 11, 2024 |
They must hear word… You can’t just wake and believe you can manipulate the system to suit you. Nigerians are not all yoruba Nigeria is not Lagos state or yorubaland … that sing … o’ yes to Tinubu and cartel God bless Nigerians |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Frigga13: 12:41am On Dec 11, 2024 |
They will soon sack him and replace with Yoruba man… while Igbos keep shouting southern unity ![]() |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by CodeTemplar: 4:02am On Dec 11, 2024*. Modified: 5:49am On Dec 11, 2024 |
The RMAFC man is obviously an ignoramus or tribal legend at best, parading as in intellectual. That it is called a consumption tax doesn't mean it is meant to serve the consumer or go to the consumer directly in anyway. It can still be collected at value addition location and reshared in Abuja, which is what Tinubu has done here. Let the ignoramus tell us who collects the VAT for good consumed outside Nigeria but within ECOWAS if the tax is for the consumer as they assume here. It is a tax that should compensate whoever shoulders the burden of production or value-addition. It will be harsh to allow Lagos poach investors, create enabling environment, lost their land, culture, values to foreigners, suffer environmental degradation, provide supporting infrastructure like road, power, security and more, then you treat them equal with where the good are consumed because the textbook says VAT is a consumption (based) tax. It is collected from the consumer for consuming the value added unto the raw input but never meant for the consumer or her location. It is like saying tolls collected in Kano for a road should go to Lagos or Rivers because the final destination of some of the passengers include Lagos and Rivers. The road is a service and is provided by Kano so why reward the destination of the passenger? What about passengers who end up in Ghana or Cameroon? If we use this logic of the foolish and greedy RMAFC boss, states may be forced to collect it forcefully like that of a tolled road that serves interstate traffic and there will be chaos and rip offs because they will charge far higher than the flat rate FG is enforcing. VAT is best managed centrally and redistributed to whoever is absorbing the impact of the value-addition within the value-addition chain accordingly. If nigeria must grow to become a hub where thing are manufactured and sold all over west Africa, this bill is good for rewarding value-adding states. |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by CodeTemplar: 4:14am On Dec 11, 2024 |
Frigga13:I support his sack for not knowing how consumption tax is managed or its purpose. If it is for the consumer, who collects the tax for goods consumed beyond the shores of Nigeria? How is the value-addition location rewarded for their efforts to poach investors, lost their land, culture, and values to foreigners? How do they get rewarded for production related expenses like order maintaining task forces(LAWMA and the likes), power, security, and infrastructure? Everything is not about tribe and ethnicity bro. Logic should prevail atimes and here is one of such case. Even the money the Kano people are using to buy the final goods comes largely from the south so giving them a cut of what they spend is just rewarding them for buying local goods and not a sensible move. If they decide to ditch local goods not produced by their states, can they transport it through lagos by road and lagos will not toll them or can they provide the Forex? |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by MadamExcellency: 4:23am On Dec 11, 2024 |
Who wrote this rubbish calling an unelected bureaucrat under the Executive Government the final arbiter in a democracy? “The Constitution designates RMAFC as the final authority on matters of revenue allocation,” the memorandum stated.The Revenue Mobilisation, Allocation and Fiscal Commission (RMAFC) principal officers should be suspended by the president with immediate effect. Imagine unelected appointees taking over policy directives and the mandate of elected executive government. |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by CodeTemplar: 4:27am On Dec 11, 2024*. Modified: 4:43am On Dec 11, 2024 |
MadamExcellency:They think with their intestine and not their brains in that north. Consumption tax doesnt mean it cant be collected from point of production in addition to the error you pointed out. Most of those appointees are not fit to lead association of rat-poison sellers in a village market. |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by MadamExcellency: 4:37am On Dec 11, 2024 |
CodeTemplar:An Agency of the government (unelected bureaucrats) is issuing a warning to the Executive and Legislative arms of the government against changing policies they were elected to do. What I understand from the audacity of this writeup is that Mallam wants to force this tax legislation to a constitutional review to enable the Northeast and Northwest to defeat the proposal with their 13 States thereby denying the proposal the required 2/3rd requirements for changes in the constitution. |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by HenryThegreat1(m): 5:32am On Dec 11, 2024 |
Frigga13:Exactly, very stupid Igbo leaders. I do not know what Tinubu gave them. |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Atuero(m): 5:36am On Dec 11, 2024 |
MadamExcellency:Aren't they empowered by the constitution to oversee that function? The man is speaking for his office not as a person.... at least, as they are empowered by the Government to do so, they should at least be consulted and carried along in the formation of the Bill. That the executive arm of government appoints the judges doesn't make them above the ruling of the Judiciary if found guilty |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by DeathToRiggers(f): 6:35am On Dec 11, 2024 |
Tinubu na thief |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by atobs4real(m): 6:36am On Dec 11, 2024 |
Reject allllllllll. APC is a evil party that brought suffering to the masses since they took over power. I regretted voting those evil people all in the name of emilokan |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Nahunger(m): 6:37am On Dec 11, 2024 |
![]() My cut |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Sheuns(m): 6:38am On Dec 11, 2024 |
This bill won’t fly. Modifications must be made. Nigeria is too big to be run by one man. Where’s the regional government bill they were screaming some months ago? You must carry everyone along else your work no go show. |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by cyrusmillz: 6:40am On Dec 11, 2024 |
If Tinubu can successfully get this new tax bill, he might be able to get more southerners on his side, even though he's being nothing but underwhelming. |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by givedemwotowoto: 6:40am On Dec 11, 2024*. Modified: 1:17pm On Dec 11, 2024 |
How VAT works in its simplest form: Company A (Distributor) has its headquarters in Lagos. It also has 3 warehouses in Lagos, Rivers, and Kaduna. Company B in Delta (Retailer) orders products from A. B pays VAT at the time of order to A which will be credited to Lagos. A orders the product from its warehouse in Rivers closer to B. A doesn’t pay VAT to Rivers because A owns the warehouse. B then sells to consumers who also pay VAT at the time of consumption. After sales, B then subtracts his/her original VAT payment and remits the balance between the VAT he/she collected from customers, and the VAT he/she paid to A. So if B paid N1000 VAT to A and collected N1,100 VAT from customers, B will pay VAT of N100 which will be credited to Delta. Company A collected the largest VAT because it is paid at the time order. Therefore Lagos gets the highest VAT. Notes: 1. Lagos will most likely collect the largest chunk of VAT even with the proposed VAT reforms. 2. B only remits the difference between how much it paid and how much customers paid. So Delta VAT will be much lower than Lagos VAT. 3. Rivers doesn’t get VAT in all of these transactions though it was the one who housed the product, and where it was shipped from. VAT is collected at the time of order, and the order of consumption |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Wealthoptulent(m): 6:40am On Dec 11, 2024 |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by datola: 6:40am On Dec 11, 2024 |
Hmmmm... |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by HarunaWest(m): 6:42am On Dec 11, 2024 |
MadamExcellency:The same democracy empowered them..stop talking gibberish....Its like usurping CBN or FIRS heads roles and you ask them not to speak out. Instead of us to build strong institutions, we keep building strong men. Nawa to una. |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Hussein035: 6:45am On Dec 11, 2024 |
CodeTemplar:You will realize that the chairman of the RMAFC is an hausa man. They don't want to contribute again to the country they only want bigger FAAC and since their senators and governors are complaining that bill must be passed Criminals, oshofree people should go and start thinking before contesting for positions especially all our poverty striking states |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by helinues: 6:45am On Dec 11, 2024 |
Their opinion |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Chekwume16(m): 6:46am On Dec 11, 2024 |
I have never liked the way tinubu is leading but you see on this tax bill I want him to be firm And resolute even if it is the only good thing he does I will give him a pass mark. |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Aprocco: 6:49am On Dec 11, 2024 |
CodeTemplar:Brilliant |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Bobloco(op): 6:52am On Dec 11, 2024*. Modified: 7:11am On Dec 11, 2024 |
CodeTemplar:“The Constitution designates RMAFC as the final authority on matters of revenue allocation,” the memorandum stated. The Commission noted that “As such, no Act of Parliament, including the VAT Act, can infringe upon this constitutional responsibility. Any such attempt would constitute a violation of the Constitution.” The RMAFC guy was drawing the attention of those working on the new tax bill to the fact that the RMAFC is the only body constitutionally empowered on matters of revenue sharing. This attitude of attacking any contrary opinion should cease because evidence has shown time and time again that Tinubu has been making catastrophic economic decisions that have inflicted severe hunger and starvation on Nigerians since coming on board |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Kukutente23: 6:53am On Dec 11, 2024*. Modified: 7:13am On Dec 11, 2024 |
Well.... that's another angle to the debate that might just be the death knell for the VAT debate LegendHero |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by aviara: 6:54am On Dec 11, 2024 |
I keep imagining what south west would have been pushing for if the oil in the Niger delta was all domiciled in any of the south west states. 13% derivation given to oil producing states is so little yet Niger delta is not clamouring for more greedy south west politicians only thinking about how they can corner everything to themselves. |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Wallade(m): 6:54am On Dec 11, 2024 |
Sheuns:In your words:"this bill will not fly"; *modifications must be made... " So when modifications are made, the bill can be passed. Does that mean the bill flew? |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Wallade(m): 6:57am On Dec 11, 2024*. Modified: 8:24am On Dec 11, 2024 |
aviara:How is the proposed Tax Bills translating into Southwest politicians greed. Doesn't the proposal favor every state? Can you explain how it does not favor every state and Local Government? |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Exjoker(m): 6:59am On Dec 11, 2024 |
CodeTemplar:Is Lagos state or wherever these manufacturers are based not collecting tax/revenue from the companies directly So what are you saying? VAT as we all know is consumer base tax |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Kukutente23: 7:04am On Dec 11, 2024 |
MadamExcellency:Is the judiciary elected What about INEC |
| Re: Tax Reform Bills: RMAFC Opposes Proposed VAT Sharing Formula by Kukutente23: 7:06am On Dec 11, 2024 |
CodeTemplar:You're just ranting offpoint Go and get a proper understanding of what VAT is Even in the constitution, VAT is not on the exclusive list |
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So what are you saying? VAT as we all know is consumer base tax