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Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by Mrexcell(m): 7:01pm On Dec 10, 2024
condralbedez:
grin

Pray they don't meet a lunatic as a husband, if not nah thier bodybags you go carry go house.
Very wrong advice most women can't even match the strength of their husbands so advising them to retaliate is totally wrong and suicidal.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by FashionCookie(f): 7:50pm On Dec 10, 2024
cr7lomo:
Lol...too much marvel movies don make u no well... go and try a man and u will know whether ur madness go save u... e b like man never seriously touch u b4 ...
Okay
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by rapheal5(m): 9:36pm On Dec 10, 2024
AntiChristian:
Na only child fit chop beating?

Beating wey no go harm or leave mark!
And that's to correct but not to maltreat!
lol....it's well
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by Idealisttt: 5:13am On Dec 11, 2024
No go slap a lunatic man, even though you are rich, them fit kpai your so called daughter. Some men are waco, they do b4 they think
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by Anny69: 8:25am On Dec 11, 2024
Sleekfingers:
.I asked you a simply bleeding question, so it is right for a lady to hit s man ?

Even in a working system , if a lady slap man, and the man dishes out her a hot slap . Nothing will happen......it is called action and reaction. And what led to that will be careful examined.
Even in the UK and Ireland , I have seen several of such cases .
My wife can never dare try to slap me, except she is ready to go and meet her ancestors.
Lmao, you're an abuser, you'll land in your true home soon; kirikiri. 🙏🏾
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by Anny69: 8:36am On Dec 11, 2024
cr7lomo:
Of course some women got killed doing hhat ... Well, u get fish brain ... u will not understand
😂Na me and your mama get am together, na why she born you.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by AntiChristian: 9:05am On Dec 11, 2024
advocatejare:
Provide the authentic hadith that back up your claim of no harm
The hadith is common one! “There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm”

Hadith 32 in An-Nawawi's collection.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by advocatejare(m): 9:20am On Dec 11, 2024
AntiChristian:
The hadith is common one! “There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm”

Hadith 32 in An-Nawawi's collection.
You can only deceive those who don’t understand Islam. Stop your nonsense Taqiyya, this yeye hadith you cited above is in Ibn Majah and it is graded “daif” which means it is weak and unacceptable and it is not even related to wife beating as allah commanded in the Quran

Sunan Ibn Majah 2341
It was narrated from Ibn 'Abbas that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm.”
Grade: Da'if

Antichristian when did you start accepting daif hadith as valid evidence?
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by Sleekfingers: 10:33am On Dec 11, 2024
Anny69:
Lmao, you're an abuser, you'll land in your true home soon; kirikiri. 🙏🏾
Mr. Hypocrite.
If a lady slap a man, what should the man do , smile and walk away?
I believe you know , Women also abuse men.....but most of your brains are programmed to let it slide , because they are women.....
I will never hit any woman first, but if she dare hit me , I will send her to her ancestors.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by AntiChristian: 10:38am On Dec 11, 2024
advocatejare:
You can only deceive those who don’t understand Islam. Stop your nonsense Taqiyya, this yeye hadith you cited above is in Ibn Majah and it is graded “daif” which means it is weak and unacceptable and it is not even related to wife beating as allah commanded in the Quran

Sunan Ibn Majah 2341
It was narrated from Ibn 'Abbas that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm.”
Grade: Da'if

Antichristian when did you start accepting daif hadith as valid evidence?
The hadith was classed as sahih by Imam Ahmad, al-Hakim, Ibn al-Salah and others. See Khulasat al-Badr al-Munir, 2/438.

Jabir narrated that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said in his Farewell Sermon:
“Fear Allah concerning women! Verily you have taken them on the security of Allah, and intercourse with them has been made lawful unto you by words of Allah. You too have rights over them, and that they should not allow anyone to sit on your bed [i.e., not let them into the house] whom you do not like. But if they do that, you can chastise them but not severely. Their rights upon you are that you should provide them with food and clothing in a fitting manner” (Narrated by Muslim, 1218)

It is not only from Ibn Majah!
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by Brenbentondiaz: 10:40am On Dec 11, 2024
TempIe:
Hit a woman here in the States and rot in jail
But a woman can hit a man? What happened to that "gender equality" nonsense? Oh yeah! It only works when it favours women.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by Anny69: 10:41am On Dec 11, 2024
Sleekfingers:
Mr. Hypocrite.
If a lady slap a man, what should the man do , smile and walk away?
I believe you know , Women also abuse men.....but most of your brains are programmed to let it slide , because they are women.....
I will never hit any woman first, but if he dare hit me , I will send her to her ancestors.
Olodo.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by Sleekfingers: 10:46am On Dec 11, 2024
Anny69:
Olodo.
Thank you . Olopolo dudu
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by koladebrainiac(m): 11:43am On Dec 11, 2024
1Sharon:
Sure. Then you'll turn around to say they couldn't manage their homes like their mothers of old did.
Go on, when a guy slaps you slap him back then maybe the guy will be crying and call yourself a champion. wo, if the guy beat you eh, like a green snake that is not good for eating.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by ReubenE(m): 12:35pm On Dec 11, 2024
Charmingrascal:
I no talk am oo grin
You no need talk am, dem know too
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by 1Sharon(f): 4:35pm On Dec 11, 2024
koladebrainiac:
Go on, when a guy slaps you slap him back then maybe the guy will be crying and call yourself a champion. wo, if the guy beat you eh, like a green snake that is not good for eating.
So what is your solution? To report it the police as you said? So you can then turn around and say she just wants to destroy the man and break her home?

You guys just want women to suck it up, don't feign concern.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by advocatejare(m): 5:40pm On Dec 11, 2024
AntiChristian:
The hadith was classed as sahih by Imam Ahmad, al-Hakim, Ibn al-Salah and others. See Khulasat al-Badr al-Munir, 2/438.
Why don’t you show us the full hadith and the grade like I showed you?

Jabir narrated that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said in his Farewell Sermon:
“Fear Allah concerning women! Verily you have taken them on the security of Allah, and intercourse with them has been made lawful unto you by words of Allah. You too have rights over them, and that they should not allow anyone to sit on your bed [i.e., not let them into the house] whom you do not like. But if they do that, you can chastise them but not severely. Their rights upon you are that you should provide them with food and clothing in a fitting manner” (Narrated by Muslim, 1218)
Chastise them but not severely! Does that make sense to you, to beat your wife but not severely? 😆

The man that bear his wife until she had green spots on her skin during the days of Muhammad, what did Muhammad do about it when Aisha inform him? Nothing

So the kind beating one will give a woman that will make her skin turn green is not severe?

Sahih al-Bukhari 5825
Narrated `Ikrima:
Rifa`a divorced his wife whereupon `AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. `Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came, `Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!" When `AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, "By Allah! I have done no wrong to him but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this," holding and showing the fringe of her garment, `Abdur-Rahman said, "By Allah, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! She has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa`a." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, to her, "If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa`a unless `Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you." Then the Prophet (ﷺ) saw two boys with `Abdur- Rahman and asked (him), "Are these your sons?" On that `AbdurRahman said, "Yes." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You claim what you claim (i.e.. that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow,"
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by fxexperts: 9:18pm On Dec 11, 2024
jaksmillioniar:
u beta pray ur daughter got a gud man cos as a wife d day u slap me u will go heaven and come back afta I finish beating u
My daughter will marry a good man for sure. and I will never in my life support any woman to slap her husband or any man for that matter. but the day your kind feel like you are a man and you can beat a woman as you like know that you can only beat naive women some will use their high heel shoe to hit that your thick head and you will fall flat on the flat like a bag of weak potatoes. for your info a lot of useless men has gone to meet their maker just by been heat on the head with the heel of a woman's shoes. know that and advice yourself
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by fxexperts: 9:21pm On Dec 11, 2024
bukatyne:
@bold:

Warris this? cheesy
that ode needs to know that it is easier for a woman to send him to meet his maker forever than it is for him to do same to a woman. what most of these kids know best is how to make mouth on NL.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by AntiChristian: 10:08am On Dec 12, 2024
advocatejare:
Why don’t you show us the full hadith and the grade like I showed you?
The hadith has more than one narrators and many chains of narrator. While some may be regarded as weak, the presence of other corroborating reports strengthens it.

Abu Sa’id al-Khudri reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do not cause harm or return harm. Whoever harms others, Allah will harm him. Whoever is harsh with others, Allah will be harsh with him.”
Source: al-Sunan al-Kubrá lil-Bayhaqī 11384
Grade: Hasan (fair) according to Al-Albani


Chastise them but not severely! Does that make sense to you, to beat your wife but not severely? 😆
Chastise them without harming them. That's translated in the light of the previous hadith!

The man that bear his wife until she had green spots on her skin during the days of Muhammad, what did Muhammad do about it when Aisha inform him? Nothing

So the kind beating one will give a woman that will make her skin turn green is not severe?

Sahih al-Bukhari 5825
Narrated `Ikrima:
Rifa`a divorced his wife whereupon `AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. `Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came, `Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!" When `AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, "By Allah! I have done no wrong to him but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this," holding and showing the fringe of her garment, `Abdur-Rahman said, "By Allah, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! She has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa`a." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, to her, "If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa`a unless `Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you." Then the Prophet (ﷺ) saw two boys with `Abdur- Rahman and asked (him), "Are these your sons?" On that `AbdurRahman said, "Yes." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You claim what you claim (i.e.. that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow,"
Is this evidence to you?

1. The wife lied her husband was impotent and useless but the husband brought two of his sons possessing adequate resemblance to him from another wife.
2. The wife did not tell the Prophet she was beaten by the husband.
3. The husband's claims are stronger that she was disobedient and wanted to go back to her previous marriage.
4. Her main complaint to the Prophet was that of her husband being impotence and of being harmed!
5. She knows she would have to follow the ruling before she can go back to her previous husband.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by Suleiman45(m): 2:26pm On Dec 12, 2024
Jayhome24:
You are very stupid. I said y own opinion and decision why not say yours.

May thunder fire you for insulting me over my decision.

Na you help me born my pikin or na you dey feed am? You dey mad...
thunder fire your generation
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by Jayhome24: 4:44pm On Dec 12, 2024
Suleiman45:
thunder fire your generation
Thunder+Amadioha+Ogun don already fire your generation born and unborn, life and dead.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by almarthins(m): 7:02pm On Dec 12, 2024
bukatyne:
So a woman slapping back a husband who slapped her is domination?
Are you a woman?

If you re, then you would be able to answer my question:
Why do you slap ur child when he or she misbehaves?

I know many men exercise this kind of physical measure extremely, which is not the way it should be.
But most women that I had seen would repeatedly slap their man if they permit them to exercise such physical measure. It is an unspoken desire of ladies/women to control their man with whatever they can.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by advocatejare(m): 8:07pm On Dec 12, 2024
AntiChristian:
The hadith has more than one narrators and many chains of narrator. While some may be regarded as weak, the presence of other corroborating reports strengthens it.

Abu Sa’id al-Khudri reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do not cause harm or return harm. Whoever harms others, Allah will harm him. Whoever is harsh with others, Allah will be harsh with him.”
Source: al-Sunan al-Kubrá lil-Bayhaqī 11384
Grade: Hasan (fair) according to Al-Albani
The other high ranking hadith graded it daif and also this hadith is not related to husbands beating their wives


Chastise them without harming them. That's translated in the light of the previous hadith!
Which previous hadith, we are talking about Quran and other hadith saying you should beat your wives

The same Allah allows Wife beating in Islam:
"Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.
Sunan Abu Dawud 11:2142

"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."
-Quran 4:34


Is this evidence to you?

1. The wife lied her husband was impotent and useless but the husband brought two of his sons possessing adequate resemblance to him from another wife.
2. The wife did not tell the Prophet she was beaten by the husband.
3. The husband's claims are stronger that she was disobedient and wanted to go back to her previous marriage.
4. Her main complaint to the Prophet was that of her husband being impotence and of being harmed!
5. She knows she would have to follow the ruling before she can go back to her previous husband.
Aisha’s corroborating speech when she saw the beating turning the lady’s body green confirmed that the beating Muslim men were subjecting their wives to was inflicting suffering on those women

Aisha said "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!"
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by KORLAR(m): 6:03am On Dec 14, 2024
43Ronin:
Hadith and quran na for only poor wretched Muslims naaa
Yes nau. The same way thieving pastors hide under ‘touch not my anointed’.
Re: I Told My Daughters To Retaliate If Their Husbands Slap Them – Emir Sanusi by condralbedez: 6:40pm On Dec 14, 2024
Mrexcell:
Very wrong advice most women can't even match the strength of their husbands so advising them to retaliate is totally wrong and suicidal.
Honestly,I totally disagree with the Emir.
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