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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:41pm On Dec 11, 2024
nihilistjnr:
how can you include goals scored in a qualifier when counting goals scored in |UCL? grin

Do we count goals in WC qualifiers when assigning WC golden boot?

So if a player scores in qualifiers but his team didnt qualify, that player too will claim he scored UCL goals that season?

This is like trying to count JAMB score towards university GPA.

Henry has 50 goals in the UCL not any qualifiers. Salah is still on 46 or 45.

The fact that you're having to adopt increasingly ridiculous positions already shows that your argument cannot be substantiated


If you're counting goals scored in UCL qualifiers to make an argument for performance in the premier league, then your argument has no academic merit.
Henry has 1 goal in UCL qualifiers so he is on 49 to Salahs 46 and Salah will equalise him before season end

This argument will be a lot more juicy in May cos Henry will be blown out the water by then grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 12:42pm On Dec 11, 2024
Amigoss:
If no be pep,city oil money and 115 charges,this wouldn't be a debate sha...When Abrahamovic oil money came into chelsea henry stood no chance,imagine Abrahamovic came earlier...

Salah is a bigger epl legend than igwe
This right here is where I stand in this debate. Henry largely competed in the league mostly when only 1 of United and Arsenal could win the league.

Salah achieved all his accolades in the era where there was a concept of top 4, then top 6, and when easily any one of 4 teams could win the league.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 12:45pm On Dec 11, 2024
Bombblacks:
Ronaldo played 7 full seasons in England while this is Salahs 8th season. Why is that guy saying Ronaldo never had the longevity?
Ibime just wannts to argue for the sake of it. His arguments are ridiculously inconsistent.
When Ronaldo left EPL for the first time, he left as the reigning WPOTY, with 3 EPL titles, and European Golden shoe.
Salah has never been WPOTY, has won only one title, and has never been the highest goal scorer in the whole Europe.

How can Salah even be a rival for Ronaldo? grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:46pm On Dec 11, 2024
Bombblacks:
Ronaldo played 7 full seasons in England while this is Salahs 8th season. Why is that guy saying Ronaldo never had the longevity?
Ronaldo was only world class in 07/08/09 - 3 seasons
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 12:46pm On Dec 11, 2024
nateevs:
This right here is where I stand in this debate. Henry largely competed in the league mostly when only 1 of United and Arsenal could win the league.

Salah achieved all his accolades in the era where there was a concept of top 4, then top 6, and when easily any one of 4 teams could win the league.
Exactly
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:49pm On Dec 11, 2024
Henry was losing WPOTY to Zidane, Figo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and Cannavaro, not Messi and Ronaldo

Secondly Salah can only win WPOTY in the odd years so is only eligible for half the awards. Even years are when International tournaments are played and Egypt will never allow him compete in those years
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Kimbeast: 12:52pm On Dec 11, 2024
nateevs:
This right here is where I stand in this debate. Henry largely competed in the league mostly when only 1 of United and Arsenal could win the league.

Salah achieved all his accolades in the era where there was a concept of top 4, then top 6, and when easily any one of 4 teams could win the league.
This is a myth. When last did Arsenal,United and Tottenham win the league. Salah played in an easy era. I mean few years ago most were of the opinion Mane was even better.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bombblacks: 12:54pm On Dec 11, 2024
Ibime:
Ronaldo was only world class in 07/08/09 - 3 seasons
Apart from his first season how many other seasons has salah been world class? Ronaldo made pfa team of the year in 5 of those 7 seasons.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bombblacks: 12:55pm On Dec 11, 2024
nihilistjnr:
Ibime just wannts to argue for the sake of it. His arguments are ridiculously inconsistent.
When Ronaldo left EPL for the first time, he left as the reigning WPOTY, with 3 EPL titles, and European Golden shoe.
Salah has never been WPOTY, has won only one title, and has never been the highest goal scorer in the whole Europe.

How can Salah even be a rival for Ronaldo? grin grin
The debate is still Henry vs Ronaldo for me. Salah will definitely make top 5.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 12:56pm On Dec 11, 2024
nateevs:
This right here is where I stand in this debate. Henry largely competed in the league mostly when only 1 of United and Arsenal could win the league.

Salah achieved all his accolades in the era where there was a concept of top 4, then top 6, and when easily any one of 4 teams could win the league.
In the last 10 years, City have won the league 7 times. Salah joined Liverpool in 2017. And in his 7 seasons at the Club, City have won the league 6 times.

Arsenal were the Liverpool to United's City in that era, in every conceivable way.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 12:58pm On Dec 11, 2024
Ibime:
Ronaldo was only world class in 07/08/09 - 3 seasons
Has Salah matched his performance in those 3 seasons? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 1:00pm On Dec 11, 2024
Bombblacks:
The debate is still Henry vs Ronaldo for me. Salah will definitely make top 5.
Ororo is the greatest to ever do it my opinion. No debate there.

Salah needs to win 2nd league title before he can talk to Igwe.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 1:00pm On Dec 11, 2024
nihilistjnr:
In the last 10 years, City have won the league 7 times. Salah joined Liverpool in 2017. And in his 7 seasons at the Club, City have won the league 6 times.

Arsenal were the Liverpool to United's City in that era, in every conceivable way.
Without checking the stats, easily four of those titles were won with a point difference of 2 to 8. I might not be perfect with the numbers, but you will find that it tallies with the point I am making - any of four teams could have won in those years, if City slipped.

You can't say the same for the times United and Arsenal dominated the league.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 1:02pm On Dec 11, 2024
Kimbeast:
This is a myth. When last did Arsenal,United and Tottenham win the league. Salah played in an easy era. I mean few years ago most were of the opinion Mane was even better.
In the era that Henry played. And this is the point I was making.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Kimbeast: 1:10pm On Dec 11, 2024
Ibime:
Henry was losing WPOTY to Zidane, Figo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and Cannavaro, not Messi and Ronaldo

Secondly Salah can only win WPOTY in the odd years so is only eligible for half the awards. Even years are when International tournaments are played and Egypt will never allow him compete in those years
Truthfully you know henry was robbed one WPOTY Award. I don't think salah ever finished in the top 3 of bdor. Mane has more top 2 finishes than Salah.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 1:12pm On Dec 11, 2024
nateevs:
Without checking the stats, easily four of those titles were won with a point difference of 2 to 8. I might not be perfect with the numbers, but you will find that it tallies with the point I am making - any of four teams could have won in those years, if City slipped.

You can't say the same for the times United and Arsenal dominated the league.
In Henry's time (1999-2006),

United won 4
Arsenal won 2
Chelsea won 2

This looks a lot more competitive than in Salah's time
Man City 6
Liverpool 1
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 1:54pm On Dec 11, 2024
nihilistjnr:
In Henry's time (1999-2006),

United won 4
Arsenal won 2
Chelsea won 2

This looks a lot more competitive than in Salah's time
Man City 6
Liverpool 1
I agree with you that this is data after the fact. The nuance in my argument though, is that we never went into any of those 7 seasons thinking at any point, that it was only City's title to lose.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CaptainZubi: 1:58pm On Dec 11, 2024
This is so cruel on utd to be honest.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nihilistjnr: 2:14pm On Dec 11, 2024
nateevs:
I agree with you that this is data after the fact. The nuance in my argument though, is that we never went into any of those 7 seasons thinking at any point, that it was only City's title to lose.
Really? You definitely showed a lot of foresight in 2016
nateevs:
You what is funny about this statement? You guys will keep saying this over and over until Pep creates another Barca out of City. Then the story changes.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:34pm On Dec 11, 2024
More converts into the Salah greatest camp. Something weu I don see 7yrs ago

At this point, I will start supporting Liverpool for the league title to finally nail the agenda
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Gucciboy: 3:47pm On Dec 11, 2024
nateevs:
This right here is where I stand in this debate. Henry largely competed in the league mostly when only 1 of United and Arsenal could win the league.

Salah achieved all his accolades in the era where there was a concept of top 4, then top 6, and when easily any one of 4 teams could win the league.
This is pure fallacy,Salah played in the easiest period of premier league existence where title contenders where only mancity and Liverpool yet he bottled the league twice to mancity
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Gucciboy: 3:49pm On Dec 11, 2024
nihilistjnr:
In Henry's time (1999-2006),

United won 4
Arsenal won 2
Chelsea won 2

This looks a lot more competitive than in Salah's time
Man City 6
Liverpool 1
Salah should have won three EPL titles but Liverpool are highest bottlers of all time.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Gucciboy: 3:53pm On Dec 11, 2024
Kimbeast:
This is a myth. When last did Arsenal,United and Tottenham win the league. Salah played in an easy era. I mean few years ago most were of the opinion Mane was even better.
Aswer,when last did Chelsea compete for the league? We have been shit for the past four seasons yet Salah was busy bottling the league to mancity.

KDB >>>> Salah
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Gucciboy: 3:55pm On Dec 11, 2024
Ibime:
Henry has 1 goal in UCL qualifiers so he is on 49 to Salahs 46 and Salah will equalise him before season end

This argument will be a lot more juicy in May cos Henry will be blown out the water by then grin grin grin
Salah has 1 epl title,hazard won 2 epl titles,KDB won 6 EPL titles.

KDB and Hazard>>>> salah
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 4:16pm On Dec 11, 2024
Gucciboy:
Salah has 1 epl title,hazard won 2 epl titles,KDB won 6 EPL titles.

KDB and Hazard>>>> salah
Do the equation for Foden and Hazard

John Stones and Terry, Rio VVD
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:55pm On Dec 11, 2024
Raumdeuter have come to scatter everything 🤣🤣🤣
Okan legends yin onibale
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Phant0mStranger: 5:06pm On Dec 11, 2024
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Phant0mStranger: 5:07pm On Dec 11, 2024
😁

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Phant0mStranger: 5:09pm On Dec 11, 2024
Blud thinks he is the main character

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 5:11pm On Dec 11, 2024
iamoyindamola:
Ramdeuter have come to scatter everything 🤣🤣🤣
Okan legends yin onibale
An mu eye bo lapo ni
Sterling 4 titles, Hazard 2 titles
Rico Lewis 2 league titles, Claude Makelele 1 title
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 5:22pm On Dec 11, 2024
raumdeuter:
More converts into the Salah greatest camp. Something weu I don see 7yrs ago

At this point, I will start supporting Liverpool for the league title to finally nail the agenda
Noted.

But I don't want to hear story when City fail to win it as I predicted when Fraudiola extended his contract.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Kimbeast: 5:25pm On Dec 11, 2024
raumdeuter:
An mu eye bo lapo ni
Sterling 4 titles, Hazard 2 titles
Rico Lewis 2 league titles, Claude Makelele 1 title
Talk about the kdb vs salah. Lets have it
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