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Re: Trump Vows To End Birthright Citizenship And Pardon US Capitol Rioters by UniqeBillB: 11:01am On Dec 10, 2024
interesting
Re: Trump Vows To End Birthright Citizenship And Pardon US Capitol Rioters by hartson: 5:54pm On Dec 10, 2024
linearity:
He cannot do that, that would requirement a constitutional amendment which is in impossible, because a two-third vote must be gotten in congress plus a three-fourth of all states would have to approve it.....Practically, It is impossible.
OK na, When he signs executive order to execute it let's see you will lament it didn't pass through Congress bla bla bla
Executive order bypasses all what you highlighted.
Re: Trump Vows To End Birthright Citizenship And Pardon US Capitol Rioters by linearity: 8:35pm On Dec 10, 2024
hartson:
OK na, When he signs executive order to execute it let's see you will lament it didn't pass through Congress bla bla bla
Executive order bypasses all what you highlighted.
You clearly do not know what you are talking about, you better delete your previous post.

If an Executive Order from the President can bypass the Congress and US Constitution, why is Congress there to begin with and why do the US have a Constitution?

They would have just send all the Legislators home and abolish the Constitution and let the President rule by Executive Orders.

Executive Orders are inferior tools, given the the Executive to set policies in line with Congressional laws and the Constitution...E.g. the law states if you drive 10 miles about the speed limit, the Executive can prosecute and convict you in the court of law....but in enforcement, the Executive might decide that, it would require more cost to prosecute everyone that drive over 10 miles, they may decide to e.g. only prosecute those who are repeat offenders.

In the USA 14th Amendments, it is clearly stated that..."All people born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States and the state where they live".

No Executive Order can undo that, you can take it to the bank and no law passed by Congress can also undo it.

To undo it, there must be a constitutional review, where Congress of the States Houses in the USA by a two-third majority must propose that review and after they proposed it, another three-fourth of State House must pass it before it goes into the Constitution and it is easier for the head of a camel to literally pass through the eye of a niddle than for that Amendment to pass in the USA of today.
Re: Trump Vows To End Birthright Citizenship And Pardon US Capitol Rioters by Flamemignon1(m): 6:18pm On Dec 11, 2024
optimusprime2:
What is obvious from your reply is that, like other global leaders, you are also clearly admitting that there is a fundamental problem... because you don't even know where to start in defence of your justification, or perhaps you are either too woke, not bold enough or just too politically correct to call a spade "a spade"

Which is my point.

Objectively speaking, you have nothing to say if I ask you specific "Why's"... except state the obvious.

Once again I am sooooo glad Trump is back. The whole world needed a restart kick.
Based on your logic, why then did the culture shift to the left or "too woke" (even if you are completely using it wrong) back in the day since everything was fine then?
Re: Trump Vows To End Birthright Citizenship And Pardon US Capitol Rioters by optimusprime2(m):
Flamemignon1:
Based on your logic, why then did the culture shift to the left or "too woke" (even if you are completely using it wrong) back in the day since everything was fine then?
There is a saying; "It's only during a famine people realize that the rind of a watermelon is edible"

You literally explained why the culture went left in your statement.
Re: Trump Vows To End Birthright Citizenship And Pardon US Capitol Rioters by orisa37: 4:12pm On Dec 12, 2024
DON'T ALLOW PREGNANT RAT EATERS TO ENTER THE U.S.
TRUMP IS FROM SCOTLAND.
Re: Trump Vows To End Birthright Citizenship And Pardon US Capitol Rioters by Flamemignon1(m): 8:33pm On Dec 12, 2024
optimusprime2:
There is a saying; "It's only during a famine people realize that the rind of a watermelon is edible"

You literally explained why the culture went left in your statement.
Then the culture shouldn't have shifted left if everything was all rosy
Re: Trump Vows To End Birthright Citizenship And Pardon US Capitol Rioters by optimusprime2(m): 9:06pm On Dec 12, 2024
Flamemignon1:
Then the culture shouldn't have shifted left if everything was all rosy
That's the point, "the culture" was affordable and had the luxury to shift left at the time it did...

Now in these harder times- especially post covid era, its difficult to afford the luxury of staying left because, "The left culture" is economically very expensive ... and there are numbers to back it up.
Re: Trump Vows To End Birthright Citizenship And Pardon US Capitol Rioters by Flamemignon1(m): 10:19am On Dec 13, 2024
optimusprime2:
That's the point, "the culture" was affordable and had the luxury to shift left at the time it did...

Now in these harder times- especially post covid era, its difficult to afford the luxury of staying left because, "The left culture" is economically very expensive ... and there are numbers to back it up.
And who made the culture economically expensive with COVID so that it could shift right?
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