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Jazaa Kallahu Khairan Sir.
May Allah Reward You Abundantly for this work.

Rashduct4luv:
Summary of Answer!
It is forbidden to tie the nuptial knot (Nikaah) while the bride is pregnant. The fornicator(s) should repent sincerely to Allah and the bride should wait for a menstrual cycle after giving birth! The correct position which is that of the majority of Muslim scholars is the forbiddance of the attribution of the kid born from fornication to the fornicating biological father! A child born this way will not inherit the biological father accordingly! Also forbidden is aborting the fetus as a result of the shame of fornication!

Preface:
This is common in many tribes in Nigeria and in many countries all over the world. The bride get pregnant before they think about solemnizing the union in Nikaah! And some Muslims are not left out in this backward culture as sometimes there exist an agreement between the dating partners to do the Nikaah when pregnancy is confirmed!

Firstly:
It is permissible for the one who committed zina (Illegal sex) to marry the woman with whom he committed zina if they are no longer regarded as zaani (Fornicators) , which is after repenting sincerely. If she is pregnant, it is not permissible to do the marriage contract with her until her pregnancy ends, and the child is not to be named after the zaani according to the majority of scholars. Some scholars are of the view that the illegitimate child is to be called after the zaani if he acknowledges him.

In Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah it says: What is required of both of them is to repent to Allah then to give up this crime and regret what has happened in the past of committing immoral actions, and they should resolve never to go back to it and they should do a lot of righteous deeds in the hope that Allah will accept their repentance and turn their bad deeds into good deeds. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And those who invoke not any other ilaah (god) along with Allaah, nor kill such person as Allaah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse and whoever does this shall receive the punishment.

69. The torment will be doubled to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein in disgrace;

70. Except those who repent and believe (in Islamic Monotheism), and do righteous deeds; for those, Allaah will change their sins into good deeds, and Allaah is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful

71. And whosoever repents and does righteous good deeds; then verily, he repents towards Allaah with true repentance” [al-Furqaan 25:68-71]

If you want to marry her, you have to wait until it is established that she is not pregnant by waiting for one menstrual cycle before doing the marriage contract with her. If it turns out that she is pregnant, it is not permissible for you to do the marriage contract with her until after the pregnancy ends, in accordance with the words of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) that a man should not irrigate the crop of another with his water.
End quote from Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, Majallat al-Buhooth al-Islamiyyah, vol. 9, p. 72

Secondly:
It is not permissible to abort the foetus in order to get rid of the shame of zina.

And Allah knows best.
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/165438/he-committed-zina-with-her-and-she-got-pregnant-can-he-marry-her-while-she-is-pregnant-or-should-she-abort-he-foetus

still confused, cant comprehend, where do u stand? #
permissible to tie repented zaani if the partners who impregnated one another are the same tying knot, to go ahead ?

100 percent correct 👍 .

Jazakallah khairan.

Good post. May Allah ease our affairs.

Jazakallahu Kheir

doffman:
100 percent correct 👍 .

Jazakallah khairan.

I have to confess that this is a very good ruling

I never believed such a good ruling could come out of Islam

The problem though is that the ruling is not based on any hadith or quranic injunction but the biased opinion of the scholar whom for all we know might have impregnated a woman and gave this ruling to justify himself just as Muhammad gave a Quranic revelation to justify marrying his son's wife

There is an hadith where Muhammad had a pregnant woman stoned to death after she had birthed and weaned the child

This hadith conflicts with the above ruling

It is obvious that you Islamists are now forming your own religion totally different from what your prophet did and taught

Kukutente23:
I have to confess that this is a very good ruling

I never believed such a good ruling could come out of Islam

The problem though is that the ruling is not based on any hadith or quranic injunction but the biased opinion of the scholar whom for all we know might have impregnated a woman and gave this ruling to justify himself just as Muhammad gave a Quranic revelation to justify marrying his son's wife

There is an hadith where Muhammad had a pregnant woman stoned to death after she had birthed and weaned the child

This hadith conflicts with the above ruling

It is obvious that you Islamists are now forming your own religion totally different from what your prophet did and taught

Who take a fool serious !

😀😀 you know , you are a pagan .

Muslims do not value your ignorant ideas and we do not care . Stay with your man made religion without direction .

Let it pain you more , we are Muslims and we are happy .

doffman:
Who take a fool serious !

😀😀 you know , you are a pagan .

Muslims do not value your ignorant ideas and we do not care . Stay with your man made religion without direction .

Let it pain you more , we are Muslims and we are happy .

You think we Christians care about what terrorists say when you claim that Christian is a man-made religion?

You're a clown and a demented dimwit at that

I'm surprised you are no longer posting your "exposure" of me

Blind, ignorant and misguided terrorists

Kukutente23:
You think we Christians care about what terrorists say when you claim that Christian is a man-made religion?

You're a clown and a demented dimwit at that

You already confirmed it , fool 😀😀

“Neither Jesus nor Abraham nor any prophet were Christians. Christian means Like Christ. What is your problem with that? Did Jesus die for Abraham or any prophet before him? You don't know nothing”

Said by Kukutente 🎤

Can we eat with pregnancy?

Thanks for the Enlightenment.

Please refrain from engaging people who are clearly baiting you with inflammatory replies.
You don't win any points by engaging them.

I believe there's a hadith about holding your tongue being more beneficial than scoring yourself some negative points by speaking when you have nothing good to say.

doffman:
You already confirmed it , fool 😀😀

“Neither Jesus nor Abraham nor any prophet were Christians. Christian means Like Christ. What is your problem with that? Did Jesus die for Abraham or any prophet before him? You don't know nothing”

Said by Kukutente 🎤

Neither were Abraham, Moses, David or any prophets Muslims. You have to show from the quran where they said they are Muslims if you insist they were. You also have to show how all the nation of Israel left Islam to form Judaism after Jesus Christ. Islamic liars

AntiChristian:
One of the reasons I love Islam is the beauty and simplicity of the rulings! Na we make things cumbersome for ourselves with unnecessary Cultural attachments!

Nikaah is cheap and easy in Islam!

No free-mixing, kissing, touching, etc. before Nikaah in Islam!

How will the bride get pregnant?

So if a couple kiss before nikaah, does it invalidate the nikaah? How can you lie like this that no kissing and touching before Nikaah. Are you the police of all Muslims now?

Besides, I'm surprised your hypocritical self happily accepted the ruling despite there being no hadith or quranic verse to support it. What happened to your claim that Muslims only follow the quran and hadiths and no one else?

What happened to the hadith where Muhammad had a woman pregnant out of wedlock stoned to death after she birthed and weaned the child?

All Islamists on this thread seem to support this ruling because it enables you to eat a woman's cake and still have it instead of the stoning Muhammad prescribed

Islamic hypocrites everywhere!!

Kukutente23:

Neither were Abraham, Moses, David or any prophets Muslims. You have to show from the quran where they said they are Muslims if you insist they were. You also have to show how all the nation of Israel left Islam to form Judaism after Jesus Christ. Islamic liars

None of them could have said the shahada as they lived before Muhammad, and the shahada involves declaring that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, ergo none of them could be mussulmen, case closed.

DeepSight:
None of them could have said the shahada as they lived before Muhammad, and the shahada involves declaring that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, ergo none of them could be mussulmen, case closed.

cc doffman abi na dumb man

How could Hebrews have named their God Allah when such word does not exist in Hebrew till today

It is like a Yoruba man saying the name of the Yoruba God Oduduwa worshipped is Dharma the Hindu name for God

Wealthoptulent:
still confused, cant comprehend, where do u stand? #
permissible to tie repented zaani if the partners who impregnated one another are the same tying knot, to go ahead ?

Ustaz is very clear here. Both of them can marry but not when the bride is still heavy, nikkah can be done only when the bride has put to bed and they have to wait after one menstrual cycle of put to bed.

Kukutente23:
cc doffman abi na dumb man

How could Hebrews have named their God Allah when such word does not exist in Hebrew till today

It is like a Yoruba man saying the name of the Yoruba God Oduduwa worshipped is Dharma the Hindu name for God

A fool really need my attention 😀😀

“Neither Jesus nor Abraham nor any prophet were Christians. Christian means Like Christ. What is your problem with that? Did Jesus die for Abraham or any prophet before him? You don't know nothing”

Said by Kukutente🎤

doffman:
A fool really need my attention 😀😀

“Neither Jesus nor Abraham nor any prophet were Christians. Christian means Like Christ. What is your problem with that? Did Jesus die for Abraham or any prophet before him? You don't know nothing”

Said by Kukutente🎤

E choke the Islamist

Kukutente23:
cc doffman abi na dumb man

How could Hebrews have named their God Allah when such word does not exist in Hebrew till today

It is like a Yoruba man saying the name of the Yoruba God Oduduwa worshipped is Dharma the Hindu name for God

I think there is some relationship from "Ilah" to some Hebrew terms though, to br fair.

AntiChristian:
One of the reasons I love Islam is the beauty and simplicity of the rulings! Na we make things cumbersome for ourselves with unnecessary Cultural attachments!

Nikaah is cheap and easy in Islam!

No free-mixing, kissing, touching, etc. before Nikaah in Islam!

How will the bride get pregnant?

You can say that again and again. Islam is peace and simple to practice in our day to day life.

Kukutente23:

Neither were Abraham, Moses, David or any prophets Muslims. You have to show from the quran where they said they are Muslims if you insist they were. You also have to show how all the nation of Israel left Islam to form Judaism after Jesus Christ. Islamic liars

See ignorant fool 😀

I just like to expose your ignorance in public .

Oya , read :

1. Ibrahim was neither a Jew nor a (Christian), but he was a hanif (one inclining toward truth), a Muslim (submitting to God). And he was not of the polytheists. (Quran 3:67-68)

Say, We believe in God, and in what has been revealed to us; and in what has been sent down to Abraham and Ismael and Isaac and Jacob and their offspring; and what has been revealed to Moses and Jesus and to all the prophets of our Lord. We make no distinction between them and we submit to Him and obey. (Quran 3:84)

And remember , Jesus is not also a Christian but Muslim .

Kukute(dwarf) 😀😀, you are going to hell fire 🔥 straight when you die in your man made Christianity . 😀

DeepSight:
I think there is some relationship from "Ilah" to some Hebrew terms though, to br fair.

No Sir. Ilah is a Canaanaite mispronounced word. The root word is Eloha which got mispronounced to Ilah by travellers. It is Baal the Canaanites used to refer to as Eloha which the Hebrews also adopted as they feared calling God's given name which is "Yahweh"
Ilah or Baal had a wife known as Ashterah. The two gods are identified in the Bible. Note that Allah who became the chosen name for the quraysh idol which is Muhammad's tribe also had a wife according to Quraysh tradition and three daughters just like the Canaanite god Baal.
Lastly, the idol of Allah in the quraysh tribe had same figurine as the idol Baal in Canaanland. The Father of Baal is El in the Cananite god as well which is where Al in AIlah came from.