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doffman:
Pagan can never understand until they enter he’ll fire ; that is the only place your eyes will open.

Meanwhile , this is the real taqiyyah you are looking for :

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

Tell us which of the versions of myislam we should follow

The 1st, 2nd or 3rd?

Even the myislam site does not have the translation you initially posted. The word here is muslimanw not Muslim. Stop lying with your version of quran.

As long as you can't show where you got the translation from you're a pathological liar practicing taqiyya

Kukutente23:
Tell us which of the versions of myislam we should follow

The 1st, 2nd or 3rd?

Even the myislam site does not have the translation you initially posted. The word here is muslimanw not Muslim. Stop lying with your version of quran.

As long as you can't show where you got the translation from you're a pathological liar practicing taqiyya

Choose anyone . Okay!

Kukutente23:
Oh quran.com are pagan now including the Saudi royal family abi

Coming from an African who faces Saudi to pray that sounds like blasphemy

Now you're claiming that transliteration of the Qur'an is more important than translation whatever that nonsense means

You guys simply live and breath taqiyya

What is encircled ?
See ignorant Kukute displaying his ignorance in the public . Anyway I am not surprised.

Kukutente23:
No chicken or egg exists here. It is established from that chapter that Ahab does not like Micaiah and had banished him from his presence because he said things he did not like to hear. Go back and read the passage I quoted. Even the servant sent to fetch Micaiah warned him to follow the lies of the other 400 prophets which means even they knew that they were being lied to. Now, at the end, when Micaiah was forced to speak the truth, what happened? He was beaten up, jailed and Ahab still went ahead to follow the fake prophets. So do you still blame God for Ahab's decision to go along with the false prophets?

And God did not create the lie. It was the spirit that did that. But at least without doubt, those prophets were already liars before then for them to still be in Ahab's service.

You mean God can only destroy Ahab at Gilead? Or you mean God can't make them win at Gilead if he was on their side?

Unfortunately you can't be in a place to question God's morals except you've higher power or authority over him which you do not. He is the Ultimate Judge of all creatures and what he says is right us they becomes right. He is above the law and beyond it self. That's why he's supreme and sovereign and there's no questioning his authority or decisions. If he chooses to destroy all of his creation, there's no grounds for you to question him just as you can't question Ford Motors for recalling an SUV they produced from the market.

1. The Chicken and egg problem remains because Yahweh supposedly dwells above time and space. Anything he does in his transcendent realm cannot be limited to time. So you cannot even place the time of tht unholy and satanic meeting he held. It could be at the beginning of creation.

2. Note, I kept saying "commission" and "diseminate" a lie. Because that is what happened there. He authorised it. In fact he requested it, and when it was proposed, he approved it, and then commissioned it. The scripture then notes that it is the Lord that has done it, by saying "the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of your prophets." You can spin this how you like, but as for me, this is enough to stay away from any such dubious and two-faced deity.

3. Of course I cant question God. Perhaps you have forgotten the small fact that I simply dont believe Yahweh is God.

doffman:
Go back to what op wrote and open your eyes very well.

It is not a new thing that God did not permit fornication in the pretext of marriage . If you want to marry , try and marry nah; must you taste every woman before you marry her ?

Islam forbids it and what is your own problem with it ?

Do you want to impregnate a woman before you will marry her officially ni?

Why don’t you show us where allah said in the Quran that you can’t marry a woman you impregnated or the hadith where Mohammed said the same and not the opinion of your scholars?

doffman:
Choose anyone . Okay!

I prefer this. Show me which version you got this from myislam

doffman:
Oya , read :

1. Ibrahim was neither a Jew nor a (Christian), but he was a hanif (one inclining toward truth), a Muslim (submitting to God). And he was not of the polytheists. (Quran 3:67-68)

Also, which of the below is word for Muslim in Arabic
المسلمون or مُّسْلِمًۭا

Taqiyya everywhere!!

Ekrenji:
Why don’t you show us where allah said in the Quran that you can’t marry a woman you impregnated or the hadith where Mohammed said the same and not the opinion of your scholars?

You people are worst than devil himself 😀

He has already told you in the follow up post :

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No man should be alone with a woman unless there is a mahram with them.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (1862) and Muslim (1341). And he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No man is alone with a woman but the Shaytaan is the third one present.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1171) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And come not near to unlawful sex. Verily, it is a Fahishah (i.e. anything that transgresses its limits: a great sin, and an evil way that leads one to hell unless Allah Forgives him).” [al-Isra 17:32]

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “No adulterer is a believer at the time when he is committing adultery” Narrated by al-Bukhari (2475) and Muslim (57).

See the bolded,

When you impregnated a woman before marriage , Definitely you are not her mahram.

And when your do that , you have done unlawful sex .

Now , give us verse that say we should do the opposite ?

Kukutente23:
I prefer this. Show me which version you got this from myislam


Also, which of the below is word for Muslim in Arabic
المسلمون or مُّسْلِمًۭا

Taqiyya everywhere!!

I just like to be playing with your brain 🥹😀😀😀

المسلمون or مُّسْلِمًۭا

They are the same thing mr ignorant 😀😀

If you can’t differentiate between Jesu or Jesus , you can never understand you fool 😀😀.

Or what is the difference between belief(Noun) and believe (Verb) ?

That is why Arabic is the best language to illustrate things .

Do you think Allah that chose Arabic as the basic language for Quran is not wise ?

Your ignorance is legendary .

doffman:
You people are worst than devil himself 😀

He has already told you in the follow up post :

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No man should be alone with a woman unless there is a mahram with them.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (1862) and Muslim (1341). And he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No man is alone with a woman but the Shaytaan is the third one present.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1171) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And come not near to unlawful sex. Verily, it is a Fahishah (i.e. anything that transgresses its limits: a great sin, and an evil way that leads one to hell unless Allah Forgives him).” [al-Isra 17:32]

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “No adulterer is a believer at the time when he is committing adultery” Narrated by al-Bukhari (2475) and Muslim (57).

See the bolded,

When you impregnated a woman before marriage , Definitely you are not her mahram.

And when your do that , you have done unlawful sex .

Now , give us verse that say we should do the opposite ?

You have refused to provide either the Quran verses or Hadith that forbid someone from marrying whom he impregnated’

Where did your scholars get that idea from?

Ekrenji:
You have refused to provide either the Quran verses or Hadith that forbid someone from marrying whom he impregnated’

Where did you scholars get that idea from?

Give us evidence we should impregnate a woman before marrying her ?

😀Muslims used both Quran and Hadith . Know that and have peace nah .

Hadiths is like an explanation of Quran in details .

The main things is that there is quran verse that say we should marry and Hadith has told us what to do and what to not do in marriage .

Your man made religion does not even give you any practical explanation of marriage , that should be your headache not Islam .

DeepSight:
1. The Chicken and egg problem remains because Yahweh supposedly dwells above time and space. Anything he does in his transcendent realm cannot be limited to time. So you cannot even place the time of tht unholy and satanic meeting he held. It could be at the beginning of creation.

2. Note, I kept saying "commission" and "diseminate" a lie. Because that is what happened there. He authorised it. In fact he requested it, and when it was proposed, he approved it, and then commissioned it. The scripture then notes that it is the Lord that has done it, by saying "the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of your prophets." You can spin this how you like, but as for me, this is enough to stay away from any such dubious and two-faced deity.

3. Of course I cant question God. Perhaps you have forgotten the small fact that I simply dont believe Yahweh is God.

You're introducing lies to your exegesis. Verse 19 clearly shows that it was when the kings were planning to go to Ramoth-Gilead that God asked for who will entice them to go to that war because God knew they will lose the war. So to claim you can't place the time the meeting held us pure rubbish. Jehoshaphat traveled from Judah to meet with Ahab BEFORE Ramoth-Gilead happened.
Again, what God asked for was who will encourage Ahab to go to war not who will go to lie. It was the lying spirit who came up with that idea as his own suggestion. Others had their own suggestion and his own method prevailed. So tell me how God initiated or authored the lie. The fact is Ahab loved lies more than truth which is why he banished Micaiah.
It is not about believing or not. Even if you believe in God, you still can't question what he does. Isaiah 45 says will the clay ask the Potter what he's doing with clay?

doffman:
Give us evidence we should impregnate a woman before marrying her ?

Give us evidence that you can’t marry someone you impregnated

😀Muslims used both Quran and Hadith . Know that and have peace nah .

Hadiths is like an explanation of Quran in details

Then give us the evidence from the Quran and Hadith that u can’t marry someone you got pregnant

doffman:
I just like to be playing with your brain 🥹😀😀😀

المسلمون or مُّسْلِمًۭا

They are the same thing mr ignorant 😀😀

If you can’t differentiate between Jesu or Jesus , you can never understand you fool 😀😀.

Or what is the difference between belief(Noun) and believe (Verb) ?

That is why Arabic is the best language to illustrate things .

Do you think Allah that chose Arabic as the basic language for Quran is not wise ?

Your ignorance is legendary .

Islamic liar!!

How can two words mean exactly the and thing in one language? Your example of Jesus and Jesu is silly because those are different languages.

If you claim they are noun and verb, then you're a worse liar. It's like saying jijeun and ounje mean same thing in Yoruba. Jijeun means eating and it's a verb. Ounje is food and it's a noun.

You're an islamic liar practicing taqiyya

If Arabic is the best language and that's why Allah chose it, can you tell us why Torah, Zabur and Injeel are in Hebrew and Greek or are they also in Arabic now?

Or are you saying Allah was confused that's why he chose Hebrew then Greek then later Arabic?

You see how daft you sound now?

I hope you won't come and practice taqiyya and claim the three books were also in Arabic

Chai!! Islamist

Kukutente23:
Islamic liar!!

How can two words mean exactly the and thing in one language? Your example of Jesus and Jesu is silly because those are different languages.

If you claim they are noun and verb, then you're a worse liar. It's like saying jijeun and ounje mean same thing in Yoruba. Jijeun means eating and it's a verb. Ounje is food and it's a noun.

You're an islamic liar practicing taqiyya

If Arabic is the best language and that's why Allah chose it, can you tell us why Torah, Zabur and Injeel are in Hebrew and Greek or are they also in Arabic now?

Or are you saying Allah was confused that's why he chose Hebrew then Greek then later Arabic?

You see how daft you sound now?

I hope you won't come and practice taqiyya and claim the three books were also in Arabic

Chai!! Islamist

Pagan himself 😀

It pains him well 😀

Continue shouting liar 😀.

This is also liar right 😀:

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

Kukutente23:
You're introducing lies to your exegesis. Verse 19 clearly shows that it was when the kings were planning to go to Ramoth-Gilead that God asked for who will entice them to go to that war because God knew they will lose the war. So to claim you can't place the time the meeting held us pure rubbish. Jehoshaphat traveled from Judah to meet with Ahab BEFORE Ramoth-Gilead happened.
Again, what God asked for was who will encourage Ahab to go to war not who will go to lie. It was the lying spirit who came up with that idea as his own suggestion. Others had their own suggestion and his own method prevailed. So tell me how God initiated or authored the lie. The fact is Ahab loved lies more than truth which is why he banished Micaiah.
It is not about believing or not. Even if you believe in God, you still can't question what he does. Isaiah 45 says will the clay ask the Potter what he's doing with clay?

Maybe you still don't understand that a transcendental God can hold a meeting today over an event that will happen in one thousand years time. Do you remember a line like "the lamb of God which was slaughtered from the creation of the world?" What does that tell you about God and events in time and space? Anyway I expect this one to be beyond you, but it's really not of consequence.

What is of consequence is how you can see the bare words there and keep insisting that Yahweh had nothing to do with the lie that went forth. That's your cup of tea, I will not push it further. Res IPSA loquitur.

And lastly, I say again, I cannot judge God. It is impossible. How many times do I have to repeat that I simply don't believe Yahweh is GOD any more than I believe Zeus or Allah are God?

Look my friend, let me tell you something. God is that element, that transcendental and ineffable element which is the root of all reality, all existence and all dimensions. It is way way way way way beyond the petty nonsense described here.

doffman:
You people are worst than devil himself 😀

He has already told you in the follow up post :

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No man should be alone with a woman unless there is a mahram with them.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (1862) and Muslim (1341). And he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No man is alone with a woman but the Shaytaan is the third one present.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1171) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And come not near to unlawful sex. Verily, it is a Fahishah (i.e. anything that transgresses its limits: a great sin, and an evil way that leads one to hell unless Allah Forgives him).” [al-Isra 17:32]

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “No adulterer is a believer at the time when he is committing adultery” Narrated by al-Bukhari (2475) and Muslim (57).

See the bolded,

When you impregnated a woman before marriage , Definitely you are not her mahram.

And when your do that , you have done unlawful sex .

Now , give us verse that say we should do the opposite ?

What does the hadith prescribe for adultery

You guys embrace this ruling because it benefits you.

There's no hadith or quran supporting it. Only taqiyya.

Show us where hadith or quran says if you impregnate a woman, you have to marry her one month after she gives birth.

The hadith prescribes death by stoning for any woman who gets pregnant out of wedlock. Muhammad did it.

Fake Muslims

Ekrenji:
Give us evidence that you can’t marry someone you impregnated


Then give us the evidence from the Quran and Hadith that u can’t marry someone you got pregnant

Give us evidence that you can marry someone you impregnated ? Simple as abc

You think you are wise 😀😀😀

doffman:
Pagan himself 😀

It pains him well 😀

Continue shouting liar 😀.

This is also liar right 😀:

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

You want to run

Show us where you got this translation from. Till now you can't. Just running around like headless chicken

doffman:
Oya , read :

1. Ibrahim was neither a Jew nor a (Christian), but he was a hanif (one inclining toward truth), a Muslim (submitting to God). And he was not of the polytheists. (Quran 3:67-68)

Show us how the two Arabic words mean same thing

Tell us if Allah was confused when he first chose Hebrew then Greek to reveal his books before Arabic since you claim Arabic is the best language

Kukutente23:
What does the hadith prescribe for adultery

You guys embrace this ruling because it benefits you.

There's no hadith or quran supporting it. Only taqiyya.

Show us where hadith or quran says if you impregnate a woman, you have to marry her one month after she gives birth.

The hadith prescribes death by stoning for any woman who gets pregnant out of wedlock. Muhammad did it.

Fake Muslims

Like these right : 😀😀

If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Kukutente23:
You want to run

Show us where you got this translation from. Till now you can't. Just running around like headless chicken



Show us how the two Arabic words mean same thing

Tell us if Allah was confused when he first chose Hebrew then Greek to reveal his books before Arabic since you claim Arabic is the best language

I know the game you are playing .

Check what you typed yourself . It is there 😀

DeepSight:
Maybe you still don't understand that a transcendental God can hold a meeting today over an event that will happen in one thousand years time. Do you remember a line like "the lamb of God which was slaughtered from the creation of the world?" What does that tell you about God and events in time and space? Anyway I expect this one to be beyond you, but it's really not of consequence.

What is of consequence is how you can see the bare words there and keep insisting that Yahweh had nothing to do with the lie that went forth. That's your cup of tea, I will not push it further. Res IPSA loquitur.

And lastly, I say again, I cannot judge God. It is impossible. How many times do I have to repeat that I simply don't believe Yahweh is GOD any more than I believe Zeus or Allah are God?

Look my friend, let me tell you something. God is that element, that transcendental and ineffable element which is the root of all reality, all existence and all dimensions. It is way way way way way beyond the petty nonsense described here.

That's not what the phrase means. The phrase refers to the lamb killed in Genesis 3:21 whose skin was used to cloth Adam and Eve and thus cover their sin and shame. The phrase means the lamb was slain at the beginning of the foundation of the world. That's is also why a lamb is slain to redeem Isaac as well as a lamb used for peace offering in leviticus. So to claim the meeting took place before Jehoshaphat left Judah for Israel is a lie.
It is obvious that God had nothing to do with the lie other than allowing the spirit to use deceitful prophets

doffman:
I know the game you are playing .

Check what you typed yourself . It is there 😀

This is the translation from quran.com that's owned by the Saudi royal family, who are Arabs and the custodian of the holy mosques. Are you saying you know more than them?

Must you practice taqiyya

Quran 3:67-68:

بِإِبۡرَٰهِيمَ لَلَّذِينَ ٱتَّبَعُوهُ وَهَٰذَا ٱلنَّبِيُّ وَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْۗ وَٱللَّهُ

Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he submitted in all uprightness1 and was not a polytheist

Kukutente23:
What does the hadith prescribe for adultery

You guys embrace this ruling because it benefits you.

There's no hadith or quran supporting it. Only taqiyya.

Show us where hadith or quran says if you impregnate a woman, you have to marry her one month after she gives birth.

The hadith prescribes death by stoning for any woman who gets pregnant out of wedlock. Muhammad did it.

Fake Muslims

Dont disturb yourself on matters of Islam / fornication / adultery when they can proclaim and deproclaim marriage in two seconds.

Kukutente23:
That's not what the phrase means. The phrase refers to the lamb killed in Genesis 3:21 whose skin was used to cloth Adam and Eve and thus cover their sin and shame. The phrase means the lamb was slain at the beginning of the foundation of the world. That's is also why a lamb is slain to redeem Isaac as well as a lamb used for peace offering in leviticus. So to claim the meeting took place before Jehoshaphat left Judah for Israel is a lie.
It is obvious that God had nothing to do with the lie other than allowing the spirit to use deceitful prophets

As you like.
I would not expect you to claim otherwise.

I cant stop shaking my head though.

"Who shall go and entice him?"

"I will go and lie to him"

"Go and you shall succeed."

"Therefore the Lord has put a lying spirit in their mouths."

And Yahweh's hand's are clean.

Human beings ehn.

As for the time and space one, that was always beyond your pay grade, dont worry about it.

doffman:
Like these right : 😀😀

If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication

A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Exactly like that. Muhammad followed that Moses' command to the letter multiple times.

Why do you fake muslims change Muhammad's religion by claiming you can marry a woman pregnant out of wedlock instead of stoning her and her fellow who committed zina to death like Muhammad did?

You guys are fake muslims!!

Kukutente23:
This is the translation from quran.com that's owned by the Saudi royal family, who are Arabs and the custodian of the holy mosques. Are you saying you know more than them?

Must you practice taqiyya

Quran 3:67-68:

بِإِبۡرَٰهِيمَ لَلَّذِينَ ٱتَّبَعُوهُ وَهَٰذَا ٱلنَّبِيُّ وَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْۗ وَٱللَّهُ

Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he submitted in all uprightness1 and was not a polytheist

See mugun, copied the wrong verse 😂😂😂.

Another copycat fool 😀.

Go back and copied the right verse for 3:67-68

DeepSight:
Dont disturb yourself on matters of Islam / fornication / adultery when they can proclaim and deproclaim marriage in two seconds.

What?!!

Where did you get that from?

doffman:
See mugun, copied the wrong verse 😂😂😂.

Another copycat fool 😀.

Go back and copied the right verse for 3:67-68

Islamic liar

Stop practicing taqiyya

مَا كَانَ إِبْرَٰهِيمُ يَهُودِيًّۭا وَلَا نَصْرَانِيًّۭا وَلَـٰكِن كَانَ حَنِيفًۭا مُّسْلِمًۭا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ ٱلْمُشْرِكِينَ

Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he submitted in all uprightness1 and was not a polytheist.

Kukutente23:
Islamic liar

Stop practicing taqiyya

مَا كَانَ إِبْرَٰهِيمُ يَهُودِيًّۭا وَلَا نَصْرَانِيًّۭا وَلَـٰكِن كَانَ حَنِيفًۭا مُّسْلِمًۭا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ ٱلْمُشْرِكِينَ

Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he submitted in all uprightness1 and was not a polytheist.

Big liar and fool 😀

Why did you quickly edited it 😀😀😀😀😀Ahaa

doffman:
Big liar and fool 😀

Why did you quickly edited it 😀😀😀😀😀Ahaa

Show me Muslim in the translation!!

Look at this idiot wants to use taqiyya to finish me

Since yesterday you can't show the source of your translation

Fake Muslim

Kukutente23:
Islamic liar

Stop practicing taqiyya

مَا كَانَ إِبْرَٰهِيمُ يَهُودِيًّۭا وَلَا نَصْرَانِيًّۭا وَلَـٰكِن كَانَ حَنِيفًۭا مُّسْلِمًۭا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ ٱلْمُشْرِكِينَ

Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he submitted in all uprightness1 and was not a polytheist.

Check for مُّسْلِمًۭا in the verse and me later 😀

I give you assignment . Let people tell you what is at bolded since you are blind to see Muslim there 😀

doffman:
Check for مُّسْلِمًۭا in the verse and me later 😀

I give you assignment . Let people tell you what is at bolded since you are blind to see Muslim there 😀

Kukute 😀,
This will be your another meme 🎤