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Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 7:46pm On Dec 07, 2024
sonmvayina:
Me, because you are wasting your life and resources over a myth.

You think if it was true the white man will share it with you..?

For once in your life...think.
White man shared all their tech to us including their religion what are you even talking about


Was the car they sold us fake too lol

Boy the possibility I told you is the fact
Imagine if you were wrong what ur punishment will be
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 8:45pm On Dec 08, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
White man shared all their tech to us including their religion what are you even talking about


Was the car they sold us fake too lol

Boy the possibility I told you is the fact
Imagine if you were wrong what ur punishment will be
They sold you a car...did they teach you how to make it?
Have they empowered you economically?
They only gave you the religion so you will foolishly forgive them for the atrocities they committed against your ancestors..and they don't want you to use your own Gods against them...
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:41pm On Dec 08, 2024
sonmvayina:
They sold you a car...did they teach you how to make it?
Have they empowered you economically?
They only gave you the religion so you will foolishly forgive them for the atrocities they committed against your ancestors..and they don't want you to use your own Gods against them...
Inoson makes cars in South East

Any thing you want to make it easy
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 10:13am On Dec 09, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
Inoson makes cars in South East

Any thing you want to make it easy
That is somebody who has risen above the clutches of religion..
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 1:27pm On Dec 09, 2024
sonmvayina:
That is somebody who has risen above the clutches of religion..
Come back to Jesus

Lying to yourself
That there is no God is waste of time
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 1:43pm On Dec 09, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
Come back to Jesus

Lying to yourself
That there is no God is waste of time
It is idolatry..

God commanded us
Do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth. Do not bow down to them or serve them....
The Roman/Greeks created a god in their image(the image of a man, something found on earth) and you want me to come to him?
God will punish me....I don't want that. I want to be in God's good book.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 3:20pm On Dec 09, 2024
sonmvayina:
It is idolatry..

God commanded us
Do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth. Do not bow down to them or serve them....
The Roman/Greeks created a god in their image(the image of a man, something found on earth) and you want me to come to him?
God will punish me....I don't want that. I want to be in God's good book.
You actually don't know Noble Bible that God has exceptions in things he said

Tell me who commanded moses to make I think a bronze silver like snake and put on a cross like trees and any one who looks at it will be healed from an attack from the serpent
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 7:26pm On Dec 09, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
You actually don't know Noble Bible that God has exceptions in things he said

Tell me who commanded moses to make I think a bronze silver like snake and put on a cross like trees and any one who looks at it will be healed from an attack from the serpent
The same serpent that spoke to Adam and Eve.... certainly not the creator of heaven and earth...
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:08am On Dec 11, 2024
sonmvayina:
The same serpent that spoke to Adam and Eve.... certainly not the creator of heaven and earth...
That is not what the bible said so I don't think you even believe Bible or God
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 11:10am On Dec 11, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
That is not what the bible said so I don't think you even believe Bible or God
Well, that is what the original language says...you are using a translated version by people who want to hide the truth from you..
Go and learn the original language and read it again..all the information will pop out...
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 10:17pm On Dec 11, 2024
sonmvayina:
Well, that is what the original language says...you are using a translated version by people who want to hide the truth from you..
Go and learn the original language and read it again..all the information will pop out...
Screen shot your fake original let see
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 10:11am On Dec 13, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
Screen shot your fake original let see
Do you want to learn?
Just Google "Ninghizchida "

And read everything about him/her.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 11:22am On Dec 13, 2024
sonmvayina:
Do you want to learn?
Just Google "Ninghizchida "

And read everything about him/her.
You have to screen shoot it before I will waste my time to check it
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 11:25am On Dec 13, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
You have to screen shoot it before I will waste my time to check it
Don't be lazy..

Is that how you learn?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Janosky: 7:55pm On Dec 13, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
Lame question
When Bible said already

He is at the right hand
And right hand means the highest position
Which only God can stay

So Jesus is God almighty
Oga, what is Jesus teaching you @ Revelation 3:12,21, Matthew 27:46 & John 20:17?

In your own Bible did God Almighty have his Father?
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Janosky: 8:05pm On Dec 13, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
When Jesus died and rose up
he fulfilled his mission and went to the throne in heaven

From that point he became the greatest

Then from that point the father was so happy to live inside Jesus.

I told you learn English to find out which is higher

Greatest or greater
No Sir.
Ask your Bible,1 Corinthians 15:24-27 & chapter 11 verse 3.

Either you are LYING or 1 Corinthians 15:24-27 & chapter 11 verse 3 is missing from your Bible.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Janosky: 8:13pm On Dec 13, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
No where that shows father came into existence lol

God have always been there from eternity
God the father the Son the holy spirit

Have always been there have always existed
Hebrew text of Micah 5:2 disagrees with your stand.
Jesus Christ has a beginning, Revelation 3:14 Christ said so about himself.
Revelation 3:14= Micah 5:2.
Check the Biblehub lexicon meaning of "descent" @Micah 5:2.

"First born" goes pari pasu with beginning, Genesis 49:3.


Oga,believe in your Bible or stick to your delusion.
. grin
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Janosky: 8:17pm On Dec 13, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
God made water the same trinity waters is liquid water it solid ice water it gas water form
MUMU analogue analogy..
:
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Gabrielshow24: 10:14pm On Dec 13, 2024
Janosky:
MUMU analogue analogy..
:
Even though his analogy is flawed, I can't help but deduce that you are on the Arian side of doctrines.

Well, I want to tarry for the night maybe some other time we will intellectually cross paths until then braze up.

But I leave you with this
"Christ is eternal. He that was, is and still to come!"
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:03pm On Dec 14, 2024
sonmvayina:
Don't be lazy..

Is that how you learn?
A teacher that can't show prove
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:04pm On Dec 14, 2024
Janosky:
Oga, what is Jesus teaching you @ Revelation 3:12,21, Matthew 27:46 & John 20:17?

In your own Bible did God Almighty have his Father?
Jesus is the everlasting father
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:05pm On Dec 14, 2024
Janosky:
No Sir.
Ask your Bible,1 Corinthians 15:24-27 & chapter 11 verse 3.

Either you are LYING or 1 Corinthians 15:24-27 & chapter 11 verse 3 is missing from your Bible.
Write down the place you think because I don't understand what you mean
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:06pm On Dec 14, 2024
Janosky:
Hebrew text of Micah 5:2 disagrees with your stand.
Jesus Christ has a beginning, Revelation 3:14 Christ said so about himself.
Revelation 3:14= Micah 5:2.
Check the Biblehub lexicon meaning of "descent" @Micah 5:2.

"First born" goes pari pasu with beginning, Genesis 49:3.


Oga,believe in your Bible or stick to your delusion.
. grin
If Jesus was first born which you say has a beginning then why did Jesus say before Abraham I am
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 6:08pm On Dec 14, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
A teacher that can't show prove
Show proof for the existence of Jesus I will show you proof of the existence of Ninghizchida..
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:08pm On Dec 14, 2024
Janosky:
MUMU analogue analogy..
:
You made no sane point

Water appears in three state are you saying it doesn't or your not aware
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:09pm On Dec 14, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Even though his analogy is flawed, I can't help but deduce that you are on the Arian side of doctrines.

Well, I want to tarry for the night maybe some other time we will intellectually cross paths until then braze up.

But I leave you with this
"Christ is eternal. He that was, is and still to come!"
How is it flawed
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:10pm On Dec 14, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
The Bible tells us in 1 Thessalonians 5:23 that we were all created with three parts—a spirit, a soul, and a body:

“And the God of peace Himself sanctify you wholly, and may your
spirit and
soul and
body
be preserved complete, without blame, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

The human soul is created by God
(Jeremiah 38:16).

Jeremiah 38:16 (ESV)
16 Then King Zedekiah swore secretly to Jeremiah, "As the Lord lives, who made our souls, I will not put you to death or deliver you into the hand of these men who seek your life."

The soul also
It can be strong or unsteady (2 Peter 2:14);

it can be lost or saved (James 1:21; Ezekiel 18:4).

We know that the human soul needs atonement (Leviticus 17:11)

and is the part of us that is purified and protected by the truth and the work of the Holy Spirit (1 Peter 1:22).

Jesus is the great Shepherd of souls
(1 Peter 2:25).

Matthew 11:29 tells us that we can turn to Jesus Christ to find rest for our souls.

Psalm 16:9-10 is a Messianic psalm that allows us to see that Jesus also had a soul.
David wrote, “Therefore my heart is glad, and my whole being rejoices; my flesh also dwells secure. For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption.”

This cannot be speaking of David (as Paul points out in Acts 13:35-37) because David’s body did see corruption and decay when he died. But Jesus Christ’s body never saw corruption...
(He was resurrected), and His soul was not abandoned to Sheol. Jesus, as the Son of Man, has a soul....


I know you will not read this things properly

Because you block your heart from knowing who Jesus is

That why you can't see it...

Glory
At least you

Janosky have run away here lol
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:11pm On Dec 14, 2024
Janosky:
Oga,is John 17:21-23 in your Bible?

Did Jesus teach you in John 17:21-23 that the Father, the disciples and Jesus are One?
Yes.


No Sir.
Because @ John 14:24 Jesus explained it .
Jesus Christ is the Messenger speaking his Father's words.
Compare Psalms 103:20 & John 14:24, John 7:16 you will get the sense of what Jesus explained.
When your son brings your letter to me, I have seen you when I see him.




Soul is not inside man.

Not in any Bible, not in your Bible.
grin
The Bible tells us in 1 Thessalonians 5:23 that we were all created with three parts—a spirit, a soul, and a body:

“And the God of peace Himself sanctify you wholly, and may your
spirit and
soul and
body
be preserved complete, without blame, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

The human soul is created by God
(Jeremiah 38:16).

Jeremiah 38:16 (ESV)
16 Then King Zedekiah swore secretly to Jeremiah, "As the Lord lives, who made our souls, I will not put you to death or deliver you into the hand of these men who seek your life."

The soul also
It can be strong or unsteady (2 Peter 2:14);

it can be lost or saved (James 1:21; Ezekiel 18:4).

We know that the human soul needs atonement (Leviticus 17:11)

and is the part of us that is purified and protected by the truth and the work of the Holy Spirit (1 Peter 1:22).

Jesus is the great Shepherd of souls
(1 Peter 2:25).

Matthew 11:29 tells us that we can turn to Jesus Christ to find rest for our souls.

Psalm 16:9-10 is a Messianic psalm that allows us to see that Jesus also had a soul.
David wrote, “Therefore my heart is glad, and my whole being rejoices; my flesh also dwells secure. For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption.”

This cannot be speaking of David (as Paul points out in Acts 13:35-37) because David’s body did see corruption and decay when he died. But Jesus Christ’s body never saw corruption...
(He was resurrected), and His soul was not abandoned to Sheol. Jesus, as the Son of Man, has a soul....


I know you will not read this things properly

Because you block your heart from knowing who Jesus is

That why you can't see it...

Glory
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 6:12pm On Dec 14, 2024
sonmvayina:
Show proof for the existence of Jesus I will show you proof of the existence of Ninghizchida..
You are moving in a circle
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 7:09pm On Dec 14, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
You are moving in a circle
Lol....

Because they are all myths.
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by Kingsnairaland(op): 9:07pm On Dec 14, 2024
sonmvayina:
Lol....

Because they are all myths.
This shows you never had an evidence
Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "My Father Is Greater Than I"? by sonmvayina(m): 9:48pm On Dec 14, 2024
Kingsnairaland:
This shows you never had an evidence
There are no evidence for myths....
Just same old stories flying around.

The only difference is the person telling the story..
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