₦airaland Forum

Ex0rrcist:
You made a very good point, I just want to let you know that going each other's way might not change anything. The elites still remains, you don't kill them off like the France revolution. Sudan split, Ethiopia also split, and nothing has changed in those places till date.

The western influence you alluded to also has little to no effect if the leaders are actually willing to work for the people.

Dicolo1:
I came to the UK as a student, and I can confidently say that God has enabled me to achieve things here, even as a student, that I couldn’t achieve in four years back home.

If you come to the UK with the right visa (work visa), I can guarantee you will live a much better life, almost like heaven on earth. Nigerians who complain about the UK being bad are often those who came through the wrong means, such as buying fraudulent work visas (COS) and then getting stranded, or coming through visiting visas. If you come through these channels, you will regret leaving Nigeria.

However, if you come as a student, having paid your full tuition fees before leaving Nigeria, or you come through a work visa, the experience is completely different.

For instance, my one-day wages in the UK can conveniently feed me for a month. My transport expenses for the month are just five hours of wages out of my eight-hour workday. My house rent and bills amount to just four days' wages, and I work for 20 days.

I speak in parables. When I convert how much I have left to naira is in 6 figures after all monthly expenses. Let me add that this is not just my experience but also that of most of my people here who came with the right type of visa and are not overstayed immigrants.

Well in as much you not in the UK, you will continue with this propaganda. I have stayed in the UK for just 2 and half years and what I have been able to achieve, I can’t in Nigeria for 9years. It displeased me when people that haven’t been somewhere would be discouraging people not to go. Well best of luck to people who diligently study places and plan towards moving. Peace

maasoap:
Devaluation is not a bad thing. According to economic policy, it is supposed to stimulate economy, it is just a pity that it doesn't have such effect in Nigeria. Look at Japan's currency, yet their economy is okay

Gerrard59:
Within the past few months, the JPY and even South Korean Won have had their values plummeted against the USD, largely because of the high interest rate by the Fed. The Bank of Japan has even raised interest rates, and the Ministry of Finance has defended the yen against further slides against the USD.

You have on several occasions said the NGN government has not devalued the naira freely, pays subsidies and further strengthened the currency. While subsidy payment is bad on its own, I wonder why you castigate the government for dollar decline, and then on the other hand call for further devaluation.

So, I wonder, what exactly do you want the government to do: defend the strong naira you have criticised or further devalue the currency but stop complaining about whether $650 = N1M?

IbeOkehie:
Money is the same everywhere. You neglected a key aspect of the comment - HOW EASY IS IT TO EARN THE MONEY!!!!

I was arguing with one fellow here, I just stopped the discussion when I realized he didn't understand monetary rates. The core of which is that the value of a currency left alone will settle at an appropriate level.

When government interferes in the market by setting prices, the resulting value of the currency will be overvalued OR undervalued and those values are then dependent on the FUNDAMENTALS of the national economy. You can go on YouTube and find Alfred Rewane predicting the value of naira based on those fundamentals....such as money supply, interest rates and government revenues etc.

Neither weak or strong naira is the panacea. What Nigeria needs is an APPROPRIATE value for the naira, which means a FREE FLOAT. Sure new info can change my mind, but I'm pretty sure I've have ALWAYS insisted on this and nothing else. If the float results in lower naira value, that's OK. Which will increase exports, raise general productivity and lower interest rates or cost of capital.

The ignorant Nigerian...which is the vast majority 🙄....will now demand...."Why hasn't devaluation worked so far?"

Devaluation hasn't worked because of the SOCIALIST structure of Nigeria. Most of the productive capacity or possibilities in Nigeria are dominated or constrained by government and are thus....non-productive!

Export of LABOR is an aspect of production where government constraints are lower than other sectors. So as the naira has plummeted in value, the EXPORT of labour has increased exponentially. This is known as MIGRATION.

This means that SAP and the privatization & price deregulation of the economy must be reactivated on a massive scale to unlock productive potential, which will then enable Nigeria to benefit from naira devaluation. That is the recommendation

The export of granite from Nigeria is illegal. No matter how low the naira goes, that avenue of legal productivity and tax revenue is closed.

Rice enjoys a federal subsidy and protection from imports. This actually depresses local production in a strong naira scenario.

Plane maintenance can be done in Nigeria if the naira is depressed enough BUT the airports and other facilities...in fact LAND itself, is under complete federal control. I suspect a lot of the troubles that bedevil Nigerian airlines are rooted in government regulation based on airport ownership and other natural factors unique to that market.

Nigerian cement is the most expensive in the world because imports are banned.

Look at electricity, a locked and government controlled market that Nigerians keep claiming is privatized

Private refineries are complaining because the Federal Government won't let them have crude oil.

I can go on and on and on. Devaluation increases productivity when government sets conditions that ALLOW participants in the economy to increase productivity!!!! This is really simple. Devaluation can increase the export of yams, but the export of yam from Nigeria is prohibited by law. That is why Ghana is the source of most West African yam sold in African stores in Europe & North America.

So no more piece meal reforms. The essentials have been repeatedly listed. Wholesale application of SAP is the recommendation. It MUST be done or Nigeria will continue to stagnate. The people of Nigeria can do whatever the hell they want, it's their funeral.

Hopefully that makes it all clear.

Thanks.

Kingju:
Let me ask you a question, since dem born you reach now ehn, what exactly have you don for Nigeria?? What exactly have you contributed to see that the country move forward??

We keep judging our country forgetting that those countries we are running to, their citizens were responsible for where they are today. You dey talk say you no send your area people because nobody gree contribute to pay for light even though una dey get light. You decide to fashi dem because you get power bank. You never go there, you don dey post pics of yansh and snow, shea you see the average Nigerian mentality?

Na why Trump go deport plenty people be this, go back to your country and fix it

Love800:
Which email please?

fastseo:
The way u are capping nonsense.

How can u compare Norway to UK?

First you need to understand the language before u break a barrier.

I leave in a city close to Scotland and makes almost 1300 pounds after tax and house rent. This exclude what my wife makes.
Life is easy in United Kingdom and the language which we all speak n understand makes it easier

Bea1234:
US
UK
Canada
Australia
Germany
Ireland
Scotland
New Zealand
Austria
Netherlands
Norway
Denmark

If you dey any of the above countries, you don't know what God has done for you. People are suffering in Nigeria. Don't be deceived by all those guys commending this administration.. they are not based in Nigeria.

As a Nigerian, Life is already winning you by 1:0, then if you come poor, that's 2:0 by default. Imagine how many clubs fit do come back at 2:0.. it happens once in a while. There's a high possibility that Chelsea won't replicate such success till the end of this season. [/b]JAPA NOW[b]

Just this morning them don cut our yard light cos nobody gree bring money despite we do have steady light o.. but wetin concern me I get strong battery and power bank.. if my pb off I go bet9ja go charge.. I dropped out of school cos.no body to help..I'm just doing my best.. even if i kpai from hunger tomorrow, heaven knows that I tried my best. The country is in ruins. $10,000 is over #15,000,000 (15 million naira)


Nigerian men and women (single or married) relocate now with immediate effect. Nothing fit work for this country. I no go talk am again o

A nation without light can never prosper. Run now. I can't complain enough. Leave now.

I'll be back. Make I go finish proofreading this book . The book say dey vex me... Proofreading no be easy work o. Brb

twosquare:
The problem with some is that they want to live in a bubbling city like London, Manchester....that kind of Lagos lifestyle, and not a town in Osun State with all amenities like up north in the UK. That's why the complain about rent, high cost of living...

fastseo:
No starter should consider London because everything you pay is twice or even thrice elsewhere from house rent to gas to electricity bills.

An example is a two bedroom house rent which could go over 1800 to 2000+ per month excluding gas and electricity bills in London then places in Scotland or Northern England where you could see same house for 500 pounds per month

My neighbour rented a 3 bedroom flat this month for 450 pounds...

The salary structure is exactly same with that of London... Makes no sense.

So anyone complaining ask him if he is a student or how much is house rent is, does he spend soo much on luxury like buying expensive clothes, shoes, mortgages on expensive cars etc because u can't eat ur cake and have it

004gist:
U no well oh. UK is a top list country far batter than Canada and equal to USA

fastseo:
UK is one of the best countries in the world.

The new immigrants complaining are mostly students but u will never see anyone with work visa complain.


I am happy being in UK..


GIVE ME USA and UK... In terms of paper ( ie if given the passport to choose ) . I chose UK. A country where police don't carry gun. No violence. No shit and jobs left, right and center

Drella:
You’re placing UK on same level with US? Fatseo is even placing UK over US!
I’d have given you some facts and stats but if you can make such a statement, I doubt you have what it takes to comprehend the reality.

Go and say this on Reddit, even on a UK sub, and see if they won’t downvote you into oblivion.

Drella:
Can you compare the opportunities in London with places like Northern England?

tensazangetsu20:
If a Nigerian that speaks English cant make it in the UK. Where else will they make it. The only African country better than Nigeria economically is South Africa and you still cant compare South Africa to the UK.

DaddyGngeess:
😁 😂 you are too funny shall, what about those of us that have travelled and come back to Nigeria to stay, we should go back?

lacasera14:
You can compare South Africa to the UK in some indices. Johannesburg, Sandton, Pretoria and Cape Town would easily trump most cities in the UK in certain areas like infrastructure. So it depends on which indices you're looking at.

fastseo:
Uk is relatively safe and peaceful than USA. I repeat give me a USA citizenship n British citizenship then i will choose UK over n over again AM in UK and i will tell u its the best soo far as long as u have no restrictions

As an early migrant USA will be the best option due to the fact that you can find ur way anyhow even if ur visa expires as long u are in u are in.. This is not what u can do in UK.

fastseo:
There are jobs in the UK.. Everywhere although there was a time when job market slowed down during the recession period. But now everything back to normal..

Go indeed n all the job boards u see lots n tons of vacancies. As migration drops down lots n lots of opening are everywhere.

If u choose to stay in London then it comes with a price.
When i came to the UK i had over 12k debt as a student. I stayed in a city where i payed less than 500 including bills and light gas with my family and i single handedly even as a student cleared those bills within 8 months yes.... 8 months dont ask me how.


But the truth is if i where in London almost half of that will go into rent.

Kingju:
Let me ask you a question, since dem born you reach now ehn, what exactly have you don for Nigeria?? What exactly have you contributed to see that the country move forward??

We keep judging our country forgetting that those countries we are running to, their citizens were responsible for where they are today. You dey talk say you no send your area people because nobody gree contribute to pay for light even though una dey get light. You decide to fashi dem because you get power bank. You never go there, you don dey post pics of yansh and snow, shea you see the average Nigerian mentality?

Na why Trump go deport plenty people be this, go back to your country and fix it

Formation10:
you way dey ask question waiting you don contribute for 9ja in fat waiting you fit contribute for 9ja way fit make 9ja mr man no deceive yourself dose countries na dere leaders make am gr8 no b the youth or citizen

Prolificgiant:
Japa is now more expensive than before but anyone who has the resources should please do

pansophist:
I understand you probably havent been out there, and just wrote those countries out of media impression.

As someone that have been to almost all the mentioned countries, its better you look for a good African country and go there than go to the UK.

If you have no skills and only depend on your muscle to make money, then you might compound your suffering. If you do muscle jobs (cleaning, dishwashing, caregiver etc), you might come to hate life.

The top feel much better than the bottom, and its better to be top in Nigeria, then bottom in oversea.

maasoap:
Devaluation is not a bad thing. According to economic policy, it is supposed to stimulate economy, it is just a pity that it doesn't have such effect in Nigeria. Look at Japan's currency, yet their economy is okay

Chidolalar:
Which work are u doing that your one day wage can conveniently feed you for a month and your 4 days wages can conveniently pay your transport fee for a month

fastseo:
No starter should consider London because everything you pay is twice or even thrice elsewhere from house rent to gas to electricity bills.

An example is a two bedroom house rent which could go over 1800 to 2000+ per month excluding gas and electricity bills in London then places in Scotland or Northern England where you could see same house for 500 pounds per month

Exactly what I preach too

Even in Scotland like Aberdeen 2bedroom is 650ponds..Same minimum wages everywhere o

My neighbour rented a 3 bedroom flat this month for 450 pounds...

The salary structure is exactly same with that of London... Makes no sense.

So anyone complaining ask him if he is a student or how much is house rent is, does he spend soo much on luxury like buying expensive clothes, shoes, mortgages on expensive cars etc because u can't eat ur cake and have it

fetrillion:
The minimum wage in the UK is approximately £11 per hour. If you work for 8-10 hours a day, your daily earnings would range between £80-£100. This makes the UK an affordable place to live, especially if you manage your finances wisely.

Food Expenses
Food is one of the cheapest commodities in the UK. For example:

Poultry: A kilo of chicken or turkey costs around £4. Buying 5 kilos would amount to £20.
Rice: A 4kg bag of rice is priced at about £4.50. Purchasing 16kg would also cost approximately £20.
Oil: Groundnut oil costs about £2 for 2 litres at stores like Lidl.
Eggs: A crate of eggs is just £1.99.
With these prices, even someone earning the minimum wage can comfortably afford basic food items.

Transportation Expenses
Transportation in the UK is also budget-friendly. A monthly bus pass typically costs the equivalent 60-66pounds…which is just about your 6hours daily pay(at minimum wage) This ensures affordable and reliable mobility across cities.

Housing Costs
Housing is the largest expense for most people in the UK.

For a single person, renting a single apartment with bills included in major cities (outside London) costs around £400-£600 per month.

2 bedroom flat is arround 700-1300 pounds base on the city you are excluding London and you don’t have any business with 2bedroom if u are still single.

This amounts to about 6 days of work on minimum wage if you rent only single apartment.

To live affordably, avoid unnecessary loans such as car loans or phone loans, and start in modest accommodations. As your career progresses, you can gradually upgrade your lifestyle.

General Living in the UK
Living a decent life in the UK is achievable even on a minimum wage. If you work full-time and earn around £1,700 after taxes, you can cover your basic expenses comfortably. Converting any leftover earnings to Nigerian Naira (where £1 equals approximately ₦2,000) highlights the financial benefits of being in the UK.

Building a Future
If you're living with a spouse and both of you are earning and cooperating, your financial potential doubles. This makes it easier to save, invest, and achieve your goals.

These calculations are based on reliable figures and reflect the realities of living in the UK. With a valid work visa and disciplined financial planning, the UK offers incredible opportunities for a better life

fetrillion:
The minimum wage in the UK is approximately £11 per hour. If you work for 8-10 hours a day, your daily earnings would range between £80-£100. This makes the UK an affordable place to live, especially if you manage your finances wisely.

Food Expenses
Food is one of the cheapest commodities in the UK. For example:

Poultry: A kilo of chicken or turkey costs around £4. Buying 5 kilos would amount to £20.
Rice: A 4kg bag of rice is priced at about £4.50. Purchasing 16kg would also cost approximately £20.
Oil: Groundnut oil costs about £2 for 2 litres at stores like Lidl.
Eggs: A crate of eggs is just £1.99.
With these prices, even someone earning the minimum wage can comfortably afford basic food items.

Transportation Expenses
Transportation in the UK is also budget-friendly. A monthly bus pass typically costs the equivalent 60-66pounds…which is just about your 6hours daily pay(at minimum wage) This ensures affordable and reliable mobility across cities.

Housing Costs
Housing is the largest expense for most people in the UK.

For a single person, renting a single apartment with bills included in major cities (outside London) costs around £400-£600 per month.

2 bedroom flat is arround 700-1300 pounds base on the city you are excluding London and you don’t have any business with 2bedroom if u are still single.

This amounts to about 6 days of work on minimum wage if you rent only single apartment.

To live affordably, avoid unnecessary loans such as car loans or phone loans, and start in modest accommodations. As your career progresses, you can gradually upgrade your lifestyle.

General Living in the UK
Living a decent life in the UK is achievable even on a minimum wage. If you work full-time and earn around £1,700 after taxes, you can cover your basic expenses comfortably. Converting any leftover earnings to Nigerian Naira (where £1 equals approximately ₦2,000) highlights the financial benefits of being in the UK.

Building a Future
If you're living with a spouse and both of you are earning and cooperating, your financial potential doubles. This makes it easier to save, invest, and achieve your goals.

These calculations are based on reliable figures and reflect the realities of living in the UK. With a valid work visa and disciplined financial planning, the UK offers incredible opportunities for a better life

Chidolalar:
Wow this is so insightful and informative. From what u wrote, then I wonder why people always condemn the UK.
How I wish I can just see myself in the UK, US or Australia and enjoy the benefits of living in a sane country where things works for the common man.
As it is now in Nigeria, there is no futuristic hope for the common man in Nigeria.
And migrating out of Nigeria now to these working countries like the UK, US, Canada, Australia is now very expensive and difficult.

fetrillion:
People you see condemning Life in the Uk are either
1. The deported ones
2.The ones who could not secure their stay and were forced to come back to Nigeria
3.The sadist who do not want other member members of their families explore such opportunities
4.The ones who came on visitors visa and were not allowed to work
5.The ones whose application were refused from Nigeria

And lastly the ones who can’t even afford the cost and expenses of coming to Uk