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Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by Omoluabi16(m): 8:31pm On Dec 14, 2024
naptu2:
There was a screenshot that I was unable to upload. Someone replied to the Ugochukwu guy:



And he replied:
reminds me of a rhyme we learned in primary school about those who Don't know, have no idea they don't know, and don't want to know. They were called fools.
Mistah ugo should be left to his own fate.
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by DJInfluence: 2:52am On Dec 15, 2024
The short story is that the German president is just a figure head. He has no power of any importance.

Don't compare him to the UK monarch. Monarch is royalty, you are born into it. President of Germany is selected and doesn't make any decision at all except when he has to pee.
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by naptu2(op): 3:15am On Dec 15, 2024
More ignorance.
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by drnoel: 7:29am On Dec 15, 2024
naptu2:
Politicians are quite often divisive figures. There are people that passionately hate Donald Trump. They can't stand him and they hate anything that's connected to him. There are also people that love Donald Trump very much and think that he is a hero.

Sometimes this division can affect people's feelings towards the state. There were people that hated Goodluck Jonathan so much that they wished that the whole country failed just because of him, there were people that hated Muhammadu Buhari so much that they wished that the whole country failed just because of him and there are people that hate Bola Tinubu so much that they wish that the whole country fails just because of him.

Some countries have figured out a way to overcome this problem. They have a head of state that, while he has some constitutional powers, he is above partisan politics.

This head of state does not get involved in partisan politics, controversial issues or day to day policies. Therefore, it is hoped that all people can love and support the head of state because he or she does not make policy that negatively affects people, does not take sides and is a symbol of the country. It is hoped that the head of state can be a unifier.

This system has been adopted in the United Kingdom and the Federal Republic of Germany. In the UK the head of state is a monarch (king or queen) and in Germany the head state is a president.

These countries also have a head of government, who makes all the difficult and divisive political decisions. The head of government in the UK is the prime minister and the head of government in Germany is the chancellor.




PRESIDENT OF GERMANY

The Bundespräsident der Bundesrepublik Deutschland (Federal President of the Federal Republic of Germany) is the head of state of Germany.

He represents the Federal Republic of Germany in matters of international law, concludes treaties with foreign states on its behalf and accredits diplomats. Furthermore, all federal laws must be signed by the president before they can come into effect; presidents may veto a law if they believe it to violate the constitution.

The German President tries to stay away from partisan politics and political decisions except when absolutely necessary. Therefore, his role is mainly ceremonial.

The President of Germany is elected by the Bundestag (Federal Council, that is, the parliament) and the 16 states of Germany.





CHANCELLOR OF GERMANY

The head of the German Government is the Federal Chancellor. The Chancellor is elected by the Bundestag (without any debate) on the proposal of the Federal President. The Chancellor is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces during war, while the Defence Minister is the Commander in Chief during peace time.

The chancellor is the chief executive of the Federal Cabinet and heads the executive branch.


Photo 1) German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

Photo 2) German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.
A little bit of misrepresentation between the differences of both political positions.
But the president is a ceremonial position. It is the chancellor that names the president not the other way around.
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by naptu2(op): 7:33am On Dec 15, 2024
drnoel:
A little bit of misrepresentation between the differences of both political positions.
But the president is a ceremonial position. It is the chancellor that names the president not the other way around.
Misrepresentation. Simply repeating what I wrote and claiming that it is a misrepresentation. Must you always engage in contortion just to be negative grin.

He simply repeated what I wrote about the presidency being largely ceremonial, then he added some nonsense that I didn't write (he even included something that is false). He obviously didn't read my post 🤣
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by naptu2(op): 8:29am On Dec 15, 2024
This is the official website of the Bundestag (the German Parliament). These two articles explain how the German President and Chancellor are elected. Ignore Joe Slow on Nairaland who knows nothing.


Election of the Federal President
https://www.bundestag.de/en/parliament/function/federal_convention

Election of the Federal Chancellor
https://www.bundestag.de/en/parliament/function/chancellor
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by drnoel: 10:55am On Dec 15, 2024
naptu2:
Misrepresentation. Simply repeating what I wrote and claiming that it is a misrepresentation. Must you always engage in contortion just to be negative grin.

He simply repeated what I wrote about the presidency being largely ceremonial, then he added some nonsense that I didn't write (he even included something that is false). He obviously didn't read my post 🤣
Hi sorry, I didn't mean to irritate you but your misrepresentation is where you stated the president nominated the chancellor. That is largely not true.
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by naptu2(op): 10:57am On Dec 15, 2024
drnoel:
Hi sorry, I didn't mean to irritate you but your misrepresentation is where you stated the president nominated the chancellor. That is largely not true.
This is my last response on this matter. The word I used was proposed, not nominate and that question is answered below (not that I need it).



naptu2:
This is the official website of the Bundestag (the German Parliament). These two articles explain how the German President and Chancellor are elected. Ignore Joe Slow on Nairaland who knows nothing.


Election of the Federal President
https://www.bundestag.de/en/parliament/function/federal_convention

Election of the Federal Chancellor
https://www.bundestag.de/en/parliament/function/chancellor
Don't bother replying, I won't read it (it's not going to add anything to my knowledge).
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by naptu2(op): 10:59am On Dec 15, 2024
From the Bundestag website (I can give you a tonne of other official links).


One of the first tasks performed by the Bundestag in each electoral term is the election of the Federal Chancellor. A candidate is proposed by the Federal President, as provided for by the Basic Law. The election is then held exclusively among the Members of the German Bundestag, who vote in a secret ballot without any prior debate. The candidate requires an absolute majority in Parliament.
https://www.bundestag.de/en/parliament/function/chancellor
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by naptu2(op): 11:05am On Dec 15, 2024
The constitution of Germany is known as the Basic Law. This is what it says.


Article 63
[Election of the Federal Chancellor]


(1) The Federal Chancellor shall be elected by the Bundestag without debate on the proposal of the Federal President.

(2) The person who receives the votes of a majority of the Members of the Bundestag shall be elected. The person elected shall be appointed by the Federal President.

(3) If the person proposed by the Federal President is not elected, the Bundestag may elect a Federal Chancellor within fourteen days after the ballot by the votes of more than one half of its Members.

(4) If no Federal Chancellor is elected within this period, a new election shall take place without delay, in which the person who receives the largest number of votes shall be elected. If the person elected receives the votes of a majority of the Members of the Bundestag, the Federal President must appoint him within seven days after the election. If the person elected does not receive such a majority, then within seven days the Federal President shall either appoint him or dissolve the Bundestag.
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/englisch_gg.html
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by sunboy(m): 12:02pm On Dec 15, 2024
OP, you really get time to dey educate the folks that refused school education and focus on how to condemn, undermine and destroy their country for the sake of one person.
Re: Explaining The Positions Of German President And German Chancellor by commoditiesnig(m): 3:25pm On Dec 15, 2024
Solsix:
Many people are ignorant ooo. Some thought German chancellor is a university VC. I spit.
Nah those people go want make I argue with them. I spit again.
Lol.. Ignorance is worse than disease!!
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