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Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by AntiChristian(op): 3:16pm On Dec 16, 2024
It is scientifically impossible to have Evenings and Mornings without the creation of Earth!

‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day?

Second Day Creation
So God made the expanse and separated the waters beneath it from the waters above. And it was so. 8God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning— the second day. 9And God said, “Let the waters under the sky be gathered into one place, so that the dry land may appear.” And it was so. (Genesis 1:7)

God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day. (Genesis 1:cool


Third day Creation
And God said, “Let the waters under the sky be gathered into one place, so that the dry land may appear.” And it was so. God called the dry land “earth,” and the gathering of waters He called “seas.” And God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:9-10)



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Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by CodeTemplar: 3:19pm On Dec 16, 2024
Comprehension is a vital skill.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:29pm On Dec 16, 2024
AntiChristian:
It is scientifically impossible to have Evenings and Mornings without the creation of Earth!

‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day?

Second Day Creation
So God made the expanse and separated the waters beneath it from the waters above. And it was so. 8God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning— the second day. 9And God said, “Let the waters under the sky be gathered into one place, so that the dry land may appear.” And it was so. (Genesis 1:7)

God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day. (Genesis 1:cool


Third day Creation
And God said, “Let the waters under the sky be gathered into one place, so that the dry land may appear.” And it was so. God called the dry land “earth,” and the gathering of waters He called “seas.” And God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:9-10)



Mightysparrow come and see this oo!
Please read Genesis 1:1 in any version of your choice.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the EARTH.

The earth has been CREATED even before the light {Genesis 1:3} so it's logical to conclude that the presence of light and darkness begins what we have till today as day and night! Genesis 1:5

Thanks for reading our book your book God's word the Bible! smiley
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by MightySparrow: 3:32pm On Dec 16, 2024
AntiChristian:
It is scientifically impossible to have Evenings and Mornings without the creation of Earth!

‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day?

Second Day Creation
So God made the expanse and separated the waters beneath it from the waters above. And it was so. 8God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning— the second day. 9And God said, “Let the waters under the sky be gathered into one place, so that the dry land may appear.” And it was so. (Genesis 1:7)

God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day. (Genesis 1:cool


Third day Creation
And God said, “Let the waters under the sky be gathered into one place, so that the dry land may appear.” And it was so. God called the dry land “earth,” and the gathering of waters He called “seas.” And God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:9-10)



Mightysparrow come and see this oo!
Bible, of course our own Jehovah lives outside science. It is what He covers that allows to be discovered.

Deut.29.29 - The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

This is why miracles, suspend the laws of nature. Joshua stopped Earth's rotation, Moses parted the Red Sea, Waves obeyed Jesus. Miracles tells us that our God is in charge. Do you know why we don't have to claim Bible is a scientific book? Our God lives and operates outside human knowledge whatsoever.


Col.2.8 - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.


Also

1Tim.6.20 - O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

That is why the jaw - breaking billion of years if scientific theories don't scare Christianity and Christian practice. It is Islam that have respect for that and have something to prove. We don't.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by AntiChristian(op): 3:48pm On Dec 16, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Please read Genesis 1:1 in any version of your choice.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the EARTH.

The earth has been CREATED even before the light {Genesis 1:3} so it's logical to conclude that the presence of light and darkness begins what we have till today as day and night! Genesis 1:5

Thanks for reading our book your book God's word the Bible! smiley
Are you saying God created two earths, One in Gen 1:1 and another in Genesis 1:10?
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by AntiChristian(op): 3:51pm On Dec 16, 2024
grin grin grin So your Jehovah dey outside science now!

MightySparrow:
Bible, of course our own Jehovah lives outside science. It is what He covers that allows to be discovered.

Deut.29.29 - The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

This is why miracles, suspend the laws of nature. Joshua stopped Earth's rotation, Moses parted the Red Sea, Waves obeyed Jesus. Miracles tells us that our God is in charge. Do you know why we don't have to claim Bible is a scientific book? Our God lives and operates outside human knowledge whatsoever.

Col.2.8 - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.


Also

1Tim.6.20 - O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

That is why the jaw - breaking billion of years if scientific theories don't scare Christianity and Christian practice. It is Islam that have respect for that and have something to prove. We don't.
So are you saying the Bible is anti-science now? Why not say the same for us too if you are not an hypocrite?
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by AntiChristian(op): 3:52pm On Dec 16, 2024
CodeTemplar:
Comprehension is a vital skill.
Try school me please! Don't just type four words and run away!

You have holy spirit i no have!
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by MightySparrow: 4:02pm On Dec 16, 2024
AntiChristian:
grin grin grin So your Jehovah dey outside science now!



So are you saying the Bible is anti-science now? Why not say the same for us too if you are not an hypocrite?
The Bible is not anti - science. God released a fragment of his knowledge to scientists. Up till now, no known scientific theories is absolute. All are subject to modificationd given better measuring instruments and better facts.


For our own God, whatever He reveals is final.

Ps.119.89 - LAMED. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:06pm On Dec 16, 2024
AntiChristian:
Are you saying God created two earths, One in Gen 1:1 and another in Genesis 1:10?
"God called the dry land Earth, but the collecting of the waters, he called Seas. And God saw that it was good"

This statement means where humans can live apart from the waters that God packed together for the dry land to suffice.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by mrintellectual(m):
Let my add my contribution to this discuss.
To start with, as someone rightly pointed out, the Bible account of creation started with, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:1

It continues, "the created earth was without form, and void". Verse 2. This shows that it was created first, FORMLESS, then other things were created to give it form. Water, then the rest of it.

In verse 3, then God created the Light into existence. And if there is light, there must be darkness. Verse 4,5.

In the first day, the FORMLESS earth, the Heaven (everything outside the Earth), the light and the darkness were created.

To give the Earth FORM, we see the other things created.

Day two.
God created the firmament (that part of the atmosphere between the clouds and the earth, still FORMLESS at that point) to divide the water in the cloud from that upon the FORMLESS earth basically water. Verses 6,7
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by mrintellectual(m): 5:34pm On Dec 16, 2024
mrintellectual:
Let my add my contribution to this discuss.
To start with, as someone rightly pointed out, the Bible account of creation started with, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:1

It continues, "the created earth was without form". Verse 2. This shows that it was created first, FORMLESS, then other things were created to give it form.

In verse 3, then God created the Light into existence. And if there is light, there must be darkness. Verse 4,5.

In the first day, the FORMLESS earth, the Heaven (everything outside the Earth), the light and the darkness were created.

To give the Earth FORM, we see the other things created.

Day two.
God created the firmament (that part of the atmosphere between the clouds and the earth, still FORMLESS at that point) to divide the water in the cloud from that upon the FORMLESS earth basically water. Verses 6,7
I found out that the word translated as heaven is "Sā'mā'yim", which means heights or elevations. So the space above the earth contained some water separated from the one within the FORMLESS earth.

Verse 8 tells us that this was created the second day.

The phrase "the evening and the morning" was used in the wisdom of God to refer to a 24 hour day, contrary to some evolution lovers who erroneously try to marry scientist's big bang theory with the Bible by force.

These things were created by a wise God, in the order stated, not by chance over billions of years.

Let's continue.
Verse 9 to 13 tells us of what was created within another 24 hour period, the water on the FORMLESS earth was separated, and gathered and the dry land appeared. This God called the EARTH, the Earth with FORM.

Can you picture this in your mind? When you want to make Ogi, or Akamu, or Pap, whatever you call it. You grind corn or maize, then you soak it in water. What do you call it? Ogi, right? When you now separate water from it, you now have what you now call Ogi, proper. When you want to prepare it again, you add water to it, it's still Ogi, right, when you cook it, it is still Ogi or Pap, right? I hope this helps. The Earth, FORMLESS, full of water was called therefore called Earth after the waters were separated from it.

Let's continue.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by AntiChristian(op): 5:38pm On Dec 16, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
"God called the dry land Earth, but the collecting of the waters, he called Seas. And God saw that it was good"

This statement means where humans can live apart from the waters that God packed together for the dry land to suffice.
You mean the Earth God meant in Genesis 1:10 has no seas?

What's the difference between the earth in Gen 1:1 and that of Gen 1:10?
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by mrintellectual(m): 5:53pm On Dec 16, 2024
Then God caused the dry land to produce plants, trees, and all like that.

On day 3, the dry land was formed, by gathering the waters together. Then the plants appeared. Vs 9-13

On day 4, there were lights in the heights, the elevations, the sā'mā'yim. The lights were for seasons, for time, etc. We know the bigger light is the Sun, in relation to us on earth. The moon a lesser light was also created, we know it's lesser now since it gets it's light by reflection from the Sun.

The greater light ruled the day, the lesser light ruled the night.

Remember light had been created prior, on day one. These lights referred to here in verse 14-16 were the ones specific to us here on earth. The prior light could have been the ones far away in the firmament beyond the earth's solar system.

Apart from these two great lights, He made the stars too. Vs 17-19 talks further about the lights. Remember, the Bible is not a scientific book, it was written by divine inspiration upon men, and we must appreciate these details in an age where there weren't telescopes. God revealed the information to men, men wrote them down as they understood the revelation using the language and literary skills they had at that time.

This is beautiful.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by mrintellectual(m): 5:55pm On Dec 16, 2024
AntiChristian:
You mean the Earth God meant in Genesis 1:10 has no seas?

What's the difference between the earth in Gen 1:1 and that of Gen 1:10?
Let's look at our environment to decipher this.
Like I said previously,
Can you picture this in your mind? When you want to make Ogi, or Akamu, or Pap, whatever you call it. You grind corn or maize, then you soak it in water. What do you call it? Ogi, right? When you now separate water from it, you now have what you now call Ogi, proper. When you want to prepare it again, you add water to it, it's still Ogi, right, when you cook it, it is still Ogi or Pap, right? I hope this helps. The Earth, FORMLESS, full of water was called therefore called Earth after the waters were separated from it.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by AntiChristian(op): 7:12am On Dec 17, 2024
mrintellectual:
Let's look at our environment to decipher this.
Like I said previously,
Can you picture this in your mind? When you want to make Ogi, or Akamu, or Pap, whatever you call it. You grind corn or maize, then you soak it in water. What do you call it? Ogi, right? When you now separate water from it, you now have what you now call Ogi, proper. When you want to prepare it again, you add water to it, it's still Ogi, right, when you cook it, it is still Ogi or Pap, right? I hope this helps. The Earth, FORMLESS, full of water was called therefore called Earth after the waters were separated from it.
It's not ogi untill you get what is drinkable as pap. The soaked or ground mixture is still àgbàdo! Untill the eri is removed it remains agabdo!

As regards the earth, it seems there are two earths in the Bible. The first earth is what we normally regard as earth. The second earth called dry land is not scientific at all. No one calls dry land earth! And the seas are in many cases not separate from the land. Go to Bayelsa and many other Islands.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:42pm On Dec 17, 2024
CodeTemplar:
Comprehension is a vital skill.
grin grin grin You can say it again. I have always said it, muslims are mad people.and their evil mind works in mad ways.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by Dtruthspeaker: 1:44pm On Dec 17, 2024
mrintellectual:
Then God caused the dry land to produce plants, trees, and all like that.

On day 3, the dry land was formed, by gathering the waters together. Then the plants appeared. Vs 9-13

On day 4, there were lights in the heights, the elevations, the sā'mā'yim. The lights were for seasons, for time, etc. We know the bigger light is the Sun, in relation to us on earth. The moon a lesser light was also created, we know it's lesser now since it gets it's light by reflection from the Sun.

The greater light ruled the day, the lesser light ruled the night.

Remember light had been created prior, on day one. These lights referred to here in verse 14-16 were the ones specific to us here on earth. The prior light could have been the ones far away in the firmament beyond the earth's solar system.

Apart from these two great lights, He made the stars too. Vs 17-19 talks further about the lights. Remember, the Bible is not a scientific book, it was written by divine inspiration upon men, and we must appreciate these details in an age where there weren't telescopes. God revealed the information to men, men wrote them down as they understood the revelation using the language and literary skills they had at that time.

This is beautiful.
You are trying to explain to a mad Muslim? Keep trying, you would soon see for yourself hy people no longer answer him.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by AntiChristian(op): 2:02pm On Dec 17, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
grin grin grin You can say it again. I have always said it, muslims are mad people.and their evil mind works in mad ways.
Dtruthspeaker:
You are trying to explain to a mad Muslim? Keep trying, you would soon see for yourself hy people no longer answer him.
Na so Jesus's family called him mad too! Mark 3:21
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:13pm On Dec 17, 2024
AntiChristian:
You mean the Earth God meant in Genesis 1:10 has no seas?
What's the difference between the earth in Gen 1:1 and that of Gen 1:10?
@ Genesis 1:1 EARTH refers to the planet.

@ Genesis 1:10 EARTH refers to habitable part.
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by AntiChristian(op): 2:44pm On Dec 17, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
@ Genesis 1:1 EARTH refers to the planet.

@ Genesis 1:10 EARTH refers to habitable part.
Is the habitable part called "earth" scientifically or "land"?
Re: Biblical Error 2 - Miracle: Evening And Morning Without Earth! by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:05pm On Dec 17, 2024
AntiChristian:
Is the habitable part called "earth" scientifically or "land"?
It has nothing to do with science when people say the world (earth) in most cases it refers to people in it.

"Àwọn ayé" in Yorùbá means the people nah.

So EARTH Genesis 1:1 refer to the whole planet while EARTH 1:10 refer to the habitable part for humans.
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