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fuke:
Igboho, better stay on your lane.

I am a Yoruba Man but that ugly Kemi messed up big time,
having gotten to the top with Nigerians support.

You can berate bad leaders but it is sacrilegious to bad mouth your source.

This is where you young ones get it wrong.
Blast the leaders who brought the country on her knees by all means but let Nigeria be.

Please, who exactly is Nigeria? You refer to it as tho there's a being named Nigeria.

Moreso, how did she bad mouth Nigeria? By stating the obvious?

Kindly explain.

DeepSight:
There is no secret about the reasons for migration to more developed and prosperous countries the world over. What hypocrisy is, is actually campaigning in front of Nigerians in the UK just a few years back saying you will fight against the negative labelling of Nigeria and then flipping that script once you have a chance at party leadership. That is not just hypocrisy, it is the worst kind of mercenary and despicable behaviour.

https://punchng.com/how-kemi-badenoch-used-nigerian-roots-to-become-british-mp/

As I said, I am surprised at how simplistic and naive you are on this matter.

Somehow I suspected it was her unsuccessful run in 2010 you were hanging on to say she's a hypocrite

Are you aware it was same Nigerians in the UK that denounced her efforts to run and woo them based on her Nigerian background? Read the comments in this blog. https://www.naijablog.co.uk/2010/04/kemi-adegoke-for-parliament.html

They told her she had no right to expect their support simply because she's Nigerian and called her attitude "patronzing", one of the ills they claimed they ran from in Nigeria

So I am not naive nor simplistic. I understand where she is coming from . Nigerians cannot pick and choose when to be courted or supported.

The whole idea that she's doing all this because she's courting the white establishment in her party is bunkum. In case you don't know, her father was an activist who supports Igboho and the separationist agenda and thinks Nigeria as presently constituted is a fraud. Same with her brother. Her father even ridiculed the idea of Tinubu becoming President as a Yoruba agenda in an interview as far back as 2021

https://www.opinionnigeria.com/kemi-badenoch-shettima-as-flutist-with-gege-on-his-neck-by-festus-adedayo/

Ronu miscreants

G0Oodharddick:
Dude think with your Brain.

Is Nigeria working?

Kemi is simply saying that Nigeria should be divided and let every ethnicity go their separate ways

You that you are thinking with your brain, the post you responded to, where was Kẹmi mentioned there?

G0Oodharddick:
Some of you Don't know what's going on.

Kemi said she's not a Nigerian but rather a Yoruba, this simply means kemi is supporting breakdown and separation of Nigeria to go its ways, exactly what nnamdi kalu has been screaming for ages.

Kemi with her position has made it known that Nigeria isn't working and cannot work. The earlier referendum is conducted so Nigerians can decide their fate, the better for us all.

We the sane Nigerians stand with kemi 💯

Where and when did Kemi say the bolded ?

You mischievously twisted her words to suit your narratives and individuals like you liked your comments.

For the record, Kemi in her words said - “I identify less with the country than with the specific ethnicity (Yoruba),”

That does not mean she denies being a Nigeria.

Kukutente23:
Somehow I suspected it was her unsuccessful run in 2010 you were hanging on to say she's a hypocrite

Are you aware it was same Nigerians in the UK that denounced her efforts to run and woo them based on her Nigerian background? Read the comments in this blog. https://www.naijablog.co.uk/2010/04/kemi-adegoke-for-parliament.html

They told her she had no right to expect their support simply because she's Nigerian and called her attitude "patronzing", one of the ills they claimed they ran from in Nigeria

So I am not naive nor simplistic. I understand where she is coming from . Nigerians cannot pick and choose when to be courted or supported.

The whole idea that she's doing all this because she's courting the white establishment in her party is bunkum. In case you don't know, her father was an activist who supports Igboho and the separationist agenda and thinks Nigeria as presently constituted is a fraud. Same with her brother. Her father even ridiculed the idea of Tinubu becoming President as a Yoruba agenda in an interview as far back as 2021

https://www.opinionnigeria.com/kemi-badenoch-shettima-as-flutist-with-gege-on-his-neck-by-festus-adedayo/

Well, your opinion which I think is naive and simplistic. However this subject is not sufficiently interesting to me to be worth our while.

PS: What Developing Country doesnt have the issues she is bashing Nigeria for?

Anyways. Like I said, not an interesting subject.

Nigerians in diaspora should keep firing Nigeria corrupt elements seriously......since they are chose not to have any shame .....

Because Nigerians in Nigeria are scared of talking.....

Deepspirituals:
Brain dead , Why not go and bring him where he is.

The souls of those innocent people that he and his goons killed when he was doing gubernatorial elections political thuggery for useless politicians up and down Yorubaland will bring him back.

PrinceOfLagos:
Shetima insults a Yoruba daughter and it's ok by tinubu but tinubu dare not insult a northerner

Slave and master relationship

How did she insult Yoruba daughter? And Tinubu insulted buhari their recent president, you must think Yoruba is like your igbo tribe that cower before northerner like orji uzor kalu and co. You need new brain.

DeathToRiggers:
emancipate yourself from tribal slavery.

What has that got to do with what I wrote?

The souls of those innocent people that he and his goons killed when he was doing gubernatorial elections political thuggery for useless politicians up and down Yorubaland will hopefully haunt him for ever.

Tzar:
Werey Alasho!

O ma

DeepSight:
Well, your opinion which I think is naive and simplistic. However this subject is not sufficiently interesting to me to be worth our while.

PS: What Developing Country doesnt have the issues she is bashing Nigeria for?

Anyways. Like I said, not an interesting subject.

Anyone who wants to bash any country where they had such horrendous experience should be allowed to

I'm sure you are one of the supporters of the BLM gang and you also supported the George Floyd "I can't breath" chants

But here Kemi is not allowed to ventilate her experiences because she didn't die at the hands of the police right?

Sunday igboho is right. Kemi Badenoch is equally right in their dispositions.

Shettima knows origin of insecurity in the North. But he keeps silence. And how does a nation progress with insecurity ravaging the Land?

Buhari and northern leaders said attack on Boko Haram was a direct attack on the North.
So,do we need a soothsayer to tell you who are the progenitors?

Boko Haram insurgency was a fall back strategy by Northern political elites during 2015 epic presidential Elections. They were recruited by Buhari and El Rufai to cause mayhem if GoodLuck Jonathan won the presidential elections. Fortunately, Buhari won.

And to send those jihadists Fulanis recruited across the Sahel region back became a problem. They refused to go back to their countries they came from.

The whole project became 🐕 dog eat dog political cul de sac. The insurgency is what we're witnessing today.

So, kemi Badenoch is right. The North should enjoy what they progenited. They can't be disturbing rest of us with their greed and religious irredentism.

Ethnic bigot made from a stupid stock

PrinceOfLagos:
Shetima insults a Yoruba daughter and it's ok by tinubu but tinubu dare not insult a northerner

Slave and master relationship

Kemi insulted Hausas by calling them names,Shetimma caution her by telling her to dissociate herself from a Nigeria tribe,her root,Yoruba! But your problem is innocent tinubu! I understand that it’s Ibo ways of life to cause confusions,I understand when you cross your boundaries with the Hausa’s,they killed your fathers and mothers in their numbers by reducing your population,so the psychology truama is still there,after all I was told by an Hausa’s that what they did to you will have an effect on your 50th generations! So what is tinubu own??tinubu told he’s okay or it’s just your empty dead brains that’s playing with you? Ibos has shown it many times that are the only slaves in Nigeria!

Kukutente23:
Anyone who wants to bash any country where they had such horrendous experience should be allowed to

I'm sure you are one of the supporters of the BLM gang and you also supported the George Floyd "I can't breath" chants

But here Kemi is not allowed to ventilate her experiences because she didn't die at the hands of the police right?

This is so simplistic its painful. You make it sound as though she is saying something new or unknown. The challenges of developing nations are well known. Piggy-backing on those challenges to insult your country and thereby attempt to feel superior is shallow and creepy. Especially if you have hitherto decried the negative labelling of Nigeria and promised to change that. Only to suddenly lead the charge of that negative labelling when politically convenient for you.

In your school of thought, the best that the peoples of the developing world can do abroad is highlight just how terrible their countries are.

You have no idea how stupid, shallow and shortsighted that is. And this is completely aside from the fact that you have not even stopped to consider what sort of diplomatic quagmire she is setting up with Nigeria should she become prime-minister.

The woman makes me want to puke. Literarily.

Up Rishi Sunak abeg. Better person.

MT:
Where and when did Kemi say the bolded ?

You mischievously twisted her words to suit your narratives and individuals like you liked your comments.

For the record, Kemi in her words said - “I identify less with the country than with the specific ethnicity (Yoruba),”

That does not mean she denies being a Nigeria.

Go and watch her full speech.

Kemi in her words said she has nothing to do with the north which is Islamized and Boko Haram reigns. She said she's not a Nigerian but rather particularly prefer to be identified to her ethnic group (Yoruba)

G0Oodharddick:
Some of you Don't know what's going on.

Kemi said she's not a Nigerian but rather a Yoruba, this simply means kemi is supporting breakdown and separation of Nigeria to go its ways, exactly what nnamdi kalu has been screaming for ages.

Kemi with her position has made it known that Nigeria isn't working and cannot work. The earlier referendum is conducted so Nigerians can decide their fate, the better for us all.

We the sane Nigerians stand with kemi 💯

Mumude

DeepSight:
There is no secret about the reasons for migration to more developed and prosperous countries the world over. What hypocrisy is, is actually campaigning in front of Nigerians in the UK just a few years back saying you will fight against the negative labelling of Nigeria and then flipping that script once you have a chance at party leadership. That is not just hypocrisy, it is the worst kind of mercenary and despicable behaviour.

As I said, I am surprised at how simplistic and naive you are on this matter.

Is that not the same thing Nigeria leaders do. Have you forgotten vision 2010, 2020, promise of 80gw, promise of fighting corruption

fuke:
Igboho, better stay on your lane.

I am a Yoruba Man but that ugly Kemi messed up big time,
having gotten to the top with Nigerians support.

You can berate bad leaders but it is sacrilegious to bad mouth your source.

This is where you young ones get it wrong.
Blast the leaders who brought the country on her knees by all means but let Nigeria be.

You are wrong. The leaders come from the people. If the leaders are consistently bad, then their is something wrong with the people.

Have you forgotten so quickly that he called a seating Vice President a pop corn seller? Why are you bothered now? We got exactly what we ordered.

DeepSight:
This is so simplistic its painful. You make it sound as though she is saying something new or unknown. The challenges of developing nations are well known. Piggy-backing on those challenges to insult your country and thereby attempt to feel superior is shallow and creepy. Especially if you have hitherto decried the negative labelling of Nigeria and promised to change that. Only to suddenly lead the charge of that negative labelling when politically convenient for you.

In your school of thought, the best that the peoples of the developing world can do abroad is highlight just how terrible their countries are.

You have no idea how stupid, shallow and shortsighted that is. And this is completely aside from the fact that you have not even stopped to consider what sort of diplomatic quagmire she is setting up with Nigeria should she become prime-minister.

The woman makes me want to puke. Literarily.

Up Rishi Sunak abeg. Better person.

In my opinion, people abroad actually highlight how terrible the countries they left behind are
I have a lot of folks abroad and some are from my place of work and they are usually quick to remind you how far better they are in the countries they migrated to and how Nigeria is a hopeless case. Those who are actively seeking to leave are also usually telling you how leaving Nigeria is the best thing anyone can do at this time. Do you think if they eventually migrate they will start to speak positively about Nigeria? Was it not a Nigerian who casted the migration through study format to the BBC? C'mon! Most Nigerians abroad do not regard Nigeria in positive light and that's common knowledge

If Cameron and his fantastically corrupt speech did not set up any diplomatic quagmire, I wonder how someone sharing her lived experience will lead to diplomatic impasse, Moreso it is Nigerian officials that went about courting her unnecessarily as if she were some prize to be paraded. I think it was the busybody that courted her in the person of Abike that should be cautioned. I don't see how a British nationality of Nigerian descent becoming Opposition leader is something that should trigger a childish notice-me from Nigerian officials.

That said, as I reiterated, Rishi never lived in India. So he does not have any lived experience to share good or bad. I understand your anger with her for turning from wanting to project Nigeria positively to putting down Nigeria but I am telling you there is a context to it. Nigerians in the UK flatly rejected that attempt when she made it. Why should she continue on something that is clearly not working?

Kukutente23:
In my opinion, people abroad actually highlight how terrible the countries they left behind are
I have a lot of folks abroad and some are from my place of work and they are usually quick to remind you how far better they are in the countries they migrated to and how Nigeria is a hopeless case. Those who are actively seeking to leave are also usually telling you how leaving Nigeria is the best thing anyone can do at this time. Do you think if they eventually migrate they will start to speak positively about Nigeria? Was it not a Nigerian who casted the migration through study format to the BBC? C'mon! Most Nigerians abroad do not regard Nigeria in positive light and that's common knowledge

If Cameron and his fantastically corrupt speech did not set up any diplomatic quagmire, I wonder how someone sharing her lived experience will lead to diplomatic impasse, Moreso it is Nigerian officials that went about courting her unnecessarily as if she were some prize to be paraded. I think it was the busybody that courted her in the person of Abike that should be cautioned. I don't see how a British nationality of Nigerian descent becoming Opposition leader is something that should trigger a childish notice-me from Nigerian officials.

That said, as I reiterated, Rishi never lived in India. So he does not have any lived experience to share good or bad. I understand your anger with her for turning from wanting to project Nigeria positively to putting down Nigeria but I am telling you there is a context to it. Nigerians in the UK flatly rejected that attempt when she made it. Why should she continue on something that is clearly not working?

Rishi and the whole world are well informed of the level of poverty and corruption in India, lived or not.

Point is, at that level, lived or not, he would know better than to talk down India.

Anyways. No matter.

DeepSight:
Rishi and the whole world are well informed of the level of poverty and corruption in India, lived or not.

Point is, at that level, lived or not, he would know better than to talk down India.

Anyways. No matter.

The level of poverty and corruption in India is beancake compared to Nigeria

You seem to forget easily that Nigeria took over the trophy for poverty capital of the world from India even though they have like 5 times our population

Again, it is no coincidence that most Nigerian indigenous firms employ Indians to their top management and executive positions while India does not return the favour. That should tell you all you need to know about corruption and Nigeria

Besides, her grouse is basically with the situation of Nigeria. Are you happy with the situation of Nigeria? Even Remi Tinubu knocked Nigerians who go to Uzk to work as caregivers and taxi drivers recently. I didn't see her demeaning speech draw any ire from any quarters.

Kukutente23:
The level of poverty and corruption in India is beancake compared to Nigeria

You seem to forget easily that Nigeria took over the trophy for poverty capital of the world from India even though they have like 5 times our population

Again, it is no coincidence that most Nigerian indigenous firms employ Indians to their top management and executive positions while India does not return the favour. That should tell you all you need to know about corruption and Nigeria

Besides, her grouse is basically with the situation of Nigeria. Are you happy with the situation of Nigeria? Even Remi Tinubu knocked Nigerians who go to Uzk to work as caregivers and taxi drivers recently. I didn't see her demeaning speech draw any ire from any quarters.

When you keep repeating the bold, it shows me there is a core principle at play here that completely eludes you. No matter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBAFaJvYugQ

DeepSight:
When you keep repeating the bold, it shows me there is a core principle at play here that completely eludes you. No matter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBAFaJvYugQ

While that of Anthony Joshua projecting his Nigerian heritage is good and commendable, it does not make Kemi's posture invalid. Everyone cannot view issues of nation hood from the same angle but the important thing is how true the position taken is.

It is my turn to call you naive now. What has been the import of Anthony's positive characterization of Nigeria? Has it made our political leaders to be better leaders or cured any of our systemic issues?

Most of those who are angry with Kemi are angry that she's giving ammunition to the opposition they hope to isolate and pulverise not that they really care for the country's image.

These are same people who hailed Buhari when he called Nigerian youths lazy in London and described Nigerians as 97 and 5% in Germany. They supported all those de-marketing coming from Nigeria's leader on the international stage.

Recently Remi said Nigerians go abroad to do jobs they refuse to do at home. Did you see any of these people call her out for denigrating the hustle of Nigerian immigrants and the conditions that push them out?

You think if Kemi had given regard to Tinubu or Dabiri the hyenas will be on her back now? Pls, don't buy that BS

Kukutente23:
While that of Anthony Joshua projecting his Nigerian heritage is good and commendable, it does not make Kemi's posture invalid. Everyone cannot view issues of nation hood from the same angle but the important thing is how true the position taken is.

It is my turn to call you naive now. What has been the import of Anthony's positive characterization of Nigeria? Has it made our political leaders to be better leaders or cured any of our systemic issues?

Most of those who are angry with Kemi are angry that she's giving ammunition to the opposition they hope to isolate and pulverise not that they really care for the country's image.

These are same people who hailed Buhari when he called Nigerian youths lazy in London and described Nigerians as 97 and 5% in Germany. They supported all those de-marketing coming from Nigeria's leader on the international stage.

Recently Remi said Nigerians go abroad to do jobs they refuse to do at home. Did you see any of these people call her out for denigrating the hustle of Nigerian immigrants and the conditions that push them out?

You think if Kemi had given regard to Tinubu or Dabiri the hyenas will be on her back now? Pls, don't buy that BS

This is becoming like trying to explain the meaning of a human concept to a non human, as I have said there is a core principle at play which so completely eludes you it is impossible to discuss. It would be like desbribing color to the blind or music to the deaf.

I am tempted to try, but with my little knowledge of you, it will be pointless, especially when the core principle is so subtle, so nuanced. . . you will keep on, like the masses simply repeatiing: is it true or not?

My mind just flashed back to a dinner I once had with my then Swedish boss and Italian colleague in Jo'butg many years ago. My Swedish boss made a few absolutely true comments about the frazzled role of Italy in the World Wars. Those comments were true. Some one like you will never, never, never, never in a billion years understand how passionately and robustly my Italian Colleague defended Italy and how emotive it was for him. You will never see the nuance or the sensitivity. You will end the discussion at whether the comments were true or not.

What is at play is a notion beyond the basic or mundane, were you are stuck.

dahmie2013:
I think it's high time we start ignoring Kemi & focus on what is important.

What Kemi said about Nigeria is that thing that is important

DeepSight:
This is becoming like trying to explain the meaning of a human concept to a non human, as I have said there is a core principle at play which so completely eludes you it is impossible to discuss. It would be like desbribing color to the blind or music to the deaf.

I am tempted to try, but with my little knowledge of you, it will be pointless, especially when the core principle is so subtle, so nuanced. . . you will keep on, like the masses simply repeatiing: is it true or not?

My mind just flashed back to a dinner I once had with my then Swedish boss and Italian colleague in Jo'butg many years ago. My Swedish boss made a few absolutely true comments about the frazzled role of Italy in the World Wars. Those comments were true. Some one like you will never, never, never, never in a billion years understand how passionately and robustly my Italian Colleague defended Italy and how emotive it was for him. You will never see the nuance or the sensitivity. You will end the discussion at whether the comments were true or not.

What is at play is a notion beyond the basic or mundane, were you are stuck.

You Italian colleague who defended Italy must be a poor student of history. Tell him to go read up on mussolini and his invasion of states like Sweden. Your claim is just like saying a German defended the Nazi holocaust to a Jew or a Polish guy. How does that even make sense to defend the murder of 6m people. I recall now. Akpabio when he was governor won an award for his "uncommon performance" in 2013 or so. In the speech he gave during the ceremony, with Jonathan present, he lamented how the history of the suffering of his people during the civil war has been diminished. He insisted he had a troubled childhood due to the horrors visited on his clan by the Nigerian side and claimed there was need for some reparations or closure for victims of that war whom he said littered the old eastern region.
Most people have forgotten that Akpabio was minority leader in 2015 before he resigned and jumped to APC obviously to escape prosecution for 108bn fraud. This is why I said lived experience matters. Your colleague does not have a lived experience of the Mussolini era which is why he's defending what he did not experience. If he had, his posture will certainly be different. Same holds in this case. Be it Anthony Joshua or Rishi Sunak, both do not have an experience of what it was like to live in their ancestral countries like Kemi does. So, someone like her could be justifiably pissed when those who preside at the helm of the destruction of her ancestral country start courting her for the singular purpose of image laundering and notice-me.
Don't blame her if she spawns them

Kukutente23:
You Italian colleague who defended Italy must be a poor student of history. Tell him to go read up on mussolini and his invasion of states like Sweden. Your claim is just like saying a German defended the Nazi holocaust to a Jew or a Polish guy. How does that even make sense to defend the murder of 6m people. I recall now. Akpabio when he was governor won an award for his "uncommon performance" in 2013 or so. In the speech he gave during the ceremony, with Jonathan present, he lamented how the history of the suffering of his people during the civil war has been diminished. He insisted he had a troubled childhood due to the horrors visited on his clan by the Nigerian side and claimed there was need for some reparations or closure for victims of that war whom he said littered the old eastern region.
Most people have forgotten that Akpabio was minority leader in 2015 before he resigned and jumped to APC obviously to escape prosecution for 108bn fraud. This is why I said lived experience matters. Your colleague does not have a lived experience of the Mussolini era which is why he's defending what he did not experience. If he had, his posture will certainly be different. Same holds in this case. Be it Anthony Joshua or Rishi Sunak, both do not have an experience of what it was like to live in their ancestral countries like Kemi does. So, someone like her could be justifiably pissed when those who preside at the helm of the destruction of her ancestral country start courting her for the singular purpose of image laundering and notice-me.
Don't blame her if she spawns them

I struggled to read beyond the first line. The point has been so mangled, so totally lost, it strained my eyes and mind.

PS: A patriotic German of the time could defend Germany without defending Hitler, and with more than 40 attempts on his life, one cannot claim all Germans supported Hitler.

PPS: Millions of us who have far deeper and more traumatic lived experience of Nigeria than Kemi has, still understand the subtler, superior point which will not permit us to demarket our country in such a vile, mercenary and opportunistic manner. And there are millions of proud people all over the global south and in developning countries like Nigeria who also understrand that. One is either noble or posessed of the natural spirit of Judas.

G0Oodharddick:
Some of you Don't know what's going on.

Kemi said she's not a Nigerian but rather a Yoruba, this simply means kemi is supporting breakdown and separation of Nigeria to go its ways, exactly what nnamdi kalu has been screaming for ages.

Kemi with her position has made it known that Nigeria isn't working and cannot work. The earlier referendum is conducted so Nigerians can decide their fate, the better for us all.

We the sane Nigerians stand with kemi 💯

Perfecto!

Rosikki, what do you think?

DeepSight:
I struggled to read beyond the first line. The point has been so mangled, so totally lost, it strained my eyes and mind.

PS: A patriotic German of the time could defend Germany without defending Hitler, and with more than 40 attempts on his life, one cannot claim all Germans supported Hitler.

PPS: Millions of us who have far deeper and more traumatic lived experience of Nigeria than Kemi has, still understand the subtler, superior point which will not permit us to demarket our country in such a vile, mercenary and opportunistic manner. And there are millions of proud people all over the global south and in developning countries like Nigeria who also understrand that. One is either noble or posessed of the natural spirit of Judas.

You'll struggle to read cause it doesn't sit with your bias
A German defending Germany to a Jew for killing about 6m of his ancestors to have a tough job not being labelled antisemitic. While it is true that you can't hold Germans of today responsible for the actions of Nazis, it is still unacceptable to defend such actions of mass murder of people whose only offence was refusing to join in a war.
Back to Kemi, she was not talking about Nigeria until Abike went and chook mouth in her matter and still brought it to public space. All she was doing was talking about immigration issues in the UK until Abike went and did notice me
She should have been left alone. I don't even understand what the function of that Abike's agency is.