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AntiChristian:
Just as you are one of the errant Christians writing jargons about Islam. The Qur'an is a revelation from the same God that revealed the Injeel and Torah. Is it a scientific book?
Hypocrite!

I will continue with you today!

Broveens42:
Saying the script isn't philosophical shows you don't know the meaning of philosophy.
When Jesus says "you have heard that....but I say: whoever looks at a woman has committed adultery in his heart.."
Isn't that his own view, when the old testament says clearly you should not add or subtract to the script?

MightySparrow:
Na lie. Jesus, who is the centre and the topic of the Bible is the Saviour of mankind. He saves. Mohammed is the killer of mankind, he kills.

Jesus and Mohammed never met, they will never meet, except on the judgement seat, when Mohammed would be sent to where he deserves.

Jas.3.11 - Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

Reason am nah. Jesus Christ and Mohammed. Giver of life and taker of life.
Haba?!
How?

Hypocrite! How many people did Jesus save in his home country till today?
Even one of the big pastor is still saying those that attend churches are still not saved!
See crass ignorance and foolishness!

Which Jesus is the center of the Bible?
How is Jesus the center when Samson went to sleep with harlot?
How is Jesus the center when Elisha cursed 42 kids to death?
How is Jesus the center when Lot and his daughter were saved from homosexuality but ended up in incest?
How is Jesus the center when the Songs of Songs mentioned breast several times as if the writer's salvation belongs to it?

1. The Prayer Proverbs 5:18-19
May your fountain be blessed,
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her breast satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

(Say Amen - Mightysparrow)

2. My Beloved Song of Songs 1:13-14
My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh
resting between my breast.
My beloved is to me a cluster of henna blossoms
from the vineyards of En Gedi.

3. Perfect Breast description Song of Songs 4:5-6
Your breast are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.
Until the day breaks
and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
and to the hill of incense. Imagine!

4. More Breast description Song of Songs 7:7-8
Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breast like clusters of fruit.
I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”
May your breast be like clusters of grapes on the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples, Imagine!

5. Kiss of life Song of Songs 8:1
If only you were to me like a brother,
who was nursed at my mother’s breast!
Then, if I found you outside,
I would kiss you,
and no one would despise me.

6. Little sister with no Breast Song of Songs 8:8-10
We have a little sister,
and her breast are not yet grown.
What shall we do for our sister
on the day she is spoken for?
If she is a wall,
we will build towers of silver on her.
If she is a door,
we will enclose her with panels of cedar.

7. Breast like towers Song of Songs 8:10
I am a wall,
and my breast are like towers.
Thus I have become in his eyes
like one bringing contentment.

Which of the verses is your favorite?
Seems Jesus is at the center of the breast!

AntiChristian:
Na this spirit they worry you and your people!
Samson kills 30 with the spirit of the Lord Boko haram spirit!
"Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon him in power, and he went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men..."Judges 14:19:

Spirit of the Lord made Samson kill 1000!
Judges 15:14-15: "When he came to Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him, and the ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands. Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men."

Samson go carry Olosho later!
Judges 16:1: "One day Samson went to Gaza, where he saw a prostitute. He went in to spend the night with her."

Captain4Jehovah:
The main reason why the Bible is problematic and difficult in interpretation to unbelievers and those antagonizing the truth is because Satan has blindfolded their mind not to understand the spiritual truth_Satan is the mastermind.
Two, the Bible is not a worldly literature though written by men. It is not "materialistic" in nature as other books are.
Would you sit by and watch doing nothing till thieves rob you of your properties? Would you allow killers to terminate your soul untimely?
Come on! An average man wouldn't allow that! Samson was born and raised a battle axle of God_he was born a savior of his people. Wars and territorial battles/strife were commonplace during his time. So what was your expectation?
The spirit of the same God in all Christians is a jealous spirit which doesn't condone nonsense not in terms of evil doing and mustn't be harmonized with idolatry or strange gods.

MightySparrow:
Is looking at a woman lustfully philosophy?

Okay as a philosopher, what is sin in philosophy?

Make your reference to any philosopher. Qoute any that talks about sin.

Captain4Jehovah:
The main reason why the Bible is problematic and difficult in interpretation to unbelievers and those antagonizing the truth is because Satan has blindfolded their mind not to understand the spiritual truth_Satan is the mastermind.
Two, the Bible is not a worldly literature though written by men. It is not "materialistic" in nature as other books are.
Would you sit by and watch doing nothing till thieves rob you of your properties? Would you allow killers to terminate your soul untimely?
Come on! An average man wouldn't allow that! Samson was born and raised a battle axle of God_he was born a savior of his people. Wars and territorial battles/strife were commonplace during his time. So what was your expectation?
The spirit of the same God in all Christians is a jealous spirit which doesn't condone nonsense not in terms of evil doing and mustn't be harmonized with idolatry or strange gods.

Broveens42:
What is philosophy?
Or
Define the term "philosophy"

AntiChristian:
A typical Christian would talk about Samson using this lens. But when it comes to the Prophet of Islam you forget reasoning!
Which of the Prophets in the Bible worship three in one Gods in Trinity?

AntiChristian:
A typical Christian would talk about Samson using this lens. But when it comes to the Prophet of Islam you forget reasoning!
Which of the Prophets in the Bible worship three in one Gods in Trinity?

AntiChristian:
A typical Christian would talk about Samson using this lens. But when it comes to the Prophet of Islam you forget reasoning!
Which of the Prophets in the Bible worship three in one Gods in Trinity?

AntiChristian:
A typical Christian would talk about Samson using this lens. But when it comes to the Prophet of Islam you forget reasoning!
Which of the Prophets in the Bible worship three in one Gods in Trinity?

AntiChristian:
So what's the reason there are mistakes in the Bible? Don't tell me Satan overcame the Holy Spirit too?

ERROR 1
Another explicit copyist error in the Old Testament can be found in the Book of 2 Kings 8:26 and 2 Chronicles 22:2 regarding the age of Ahaziah, King of Judah.]

1- **2 Kings 8:26**: It states that Ahaziah became king at the age of 22.
2- **2 Chronicles 22:2**: It mentions that Ahaziah was 42 years old when he became king.

This discrepancy in ages between the two books is considered a copyist error and has led to scholarly discussions about the accuracy of the historical accounts presented in these texts.

ERROR 2
Another explicit copyist error in the Old Testament can be found in the Book of 2 Chronicles 36:9 and 2 Kings 24:8 regarding the age of Jehoiachin when he became king.

1- **2 Chronicles 36:9**: It states that Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he became king.
2- **2 Kings 24:8**: It mentions that Jehoiachin was 18 years old when he became king.

This inconsistency in the age of Jehoiachin at the time he assumed the throne is another example of a copyist error that can be found in the Old Testament texts.

ERROR 3
Another explicit copyist error in the Old Testament can be found in the Book of 2 Samuel 10:18 and 1 Chronicles 19:18 regarding a battle between the Israelites and the Arameans.

1- **2 Samuel 10:18**: It states that David's army killed 700 charioteers and 40,000 foot soldiers of the Arameans.
2- **1 Chronicles 19:18**: It mentions that David's army killed 7,000 charioteers and 40,000 foot soldiers of the Arameans.

This discrepancy in the number of charioteers killed in the battle is considered a copyist error and has led to debates among scholars about the accuracy of the historical accounts presented in these passages.

ERROR 4
A significant copyist error in the Old Testament can be found in the story of the "Wife of Lot" in the Book of Genesis 19:30-38. This story involves Lot and his two daughters after fleeing the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

In **Genesis 19:30-38**, it describes how Lot's daughters get their father drunk on two consecutive nights and have sexual relations with him in order to conceive children. The text states that the daughters believed there were no other men left on earth to provide offspring.

This story is considered by many scholars to be a copyist error or a later addition to the text due to its controversial and problematic nature. It is seen as inconsistent with the moral teachings and values presented elsewhere in the Bible.

ERROR 5
One of the most well-known and debated copyist errors in the Bible is the Johannine Comma, also known as the Comma Johanneum. This disputed passage is found in 1 John 5:7-8 in some versions of the Bible. The passage reads:

1 John 5:7-8 (KJV): "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

However, many scholars and biblical experts believe that this passage was a later addition to the text and is not found in the earliest manuscripts of the New Testament. Most modern translations of the Bible omit the Johannine Comma or include it with a footnote indicating its disputed nature. This error has been a point of contention and discussion among theologians and textual critics for centuries.

Captain4Jehovah:
You answered the questions yourself! God's word remains infallible and authentic regardless human views and analysis about it. His word is settled in heaven!

Captain4Jehovah:
All supernatural forces are called gods. Jehovah is God. Jesus is God. The Holy Spirit is God. All angels are gods. But the ONLY ONE WHO IS THE FATHER OF ALL IS JEHOVAH.
Although the word trinity is not found in the Bible, God the Father(Jehovah), God the Son, (Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit (the comforter) are in agreement and cult beyond human comprehension.
The prophets of old and Christians worship one God, YHWH.

I see that all your anti posts are ready-mades. And there is no positive points outside frame of the Bible to support them.
Read and digest your Quran well. In there you will see the real picture of Jesus and true salvation.

Captain4Jehovah:
Advent of times and understanding the times ​are two things missing in your belief. And then, it is improper and illogical to explain away salvation of souls in order to justify your position to defend the prophet of Islam moral conducts. Consider the lifestyles of Samson and Mohammed. And the lifestyles of Jesus and Mohammed. Read all traditions about the prophet of Islam.

AntiChristian:
Jesus had no lifestyle available for us to consider! What is narrated in the Bible was when he was a baby, a few times when he was like 12 then from 30-33 years! Over 29 years of Jesus's life is absent in the Bible out of 33! That's like 88%! So are we to compare this?

Samson slept with harlot and killed people under the Power of Holy Spirit. He even killed people with himself!

Captain4Jehovah:
You dont get it yet! Living on earth for many years does not make someone great. A life of positive and reckoned, I mean to say meaningful impacts which promotes moral values is of a great import. Jesus lived an outstanding and exemplary life through his short stay on earth. Thus, he became a flawless being ever walked our mother earth. At one occasion, he challenged his accusers thus:"which of you convinceth of sin". Even Satan couldn't find any fault in him two times. Your tradition also has an account of his faultless life unlike Mohammed.

AntiChristian:
Someone whose has 88% of his life absent in your book and you're claim he is perfect with just the 12% you have!

Your thinking is extremely flawed!

It just showed your church fathers had so much to hide!

Captain4Jehovah:
Mathematical calculations are flawed and baseless yardsticks to judge man's greatness or his perfection on earth. Man beholds the outwards, facial look but the living God looks at the inwards, the inner righteousness. The living God, YHWH is not interested in how man counts achievements on earth! Perhaps you read about Belshazzar, Nebuchadnezzar's son whose lifestyle did not even match his father's for he was a foolish king for desecrating the temple's wares which his father kept intact. He was weighed in a balance and did not amount to anything. He was nothing despite the greatness of the kingdom.
My point is, Jesus achieved the work of salvation within that short time flawless and sinless.

Even your traditions and Quran exempt him.
The Quran refers to Jesus as a pure boy, or ġulammā zakīwā in Arabic, nine times. The Quran also states that Jesus and his mother, Maryam, were the only two people who were untouched by Shaitan and were therefore without sin.
So, what else? I still have another tradition which discusses about all the prophets' unrighteousness right from Adam to Mohammed in terms of salvation. Only Jesus is exempted. If you want me to quote it, I will.
Jesus is sinless! I say it again read your Quran and hadith and digest not what your imams ingest into you.

AntiChristian:
You can't judge Jesus with the 12% that was written about him. His biography was doctored! How can you judge when 88% of someone's life story is lost? That's why some said he never existed!

You do not have the whole picture of Jesus in Islam as Trinity is all over your brain. Jesus was born pure as well as other children! And being born pure does not mean you'll grow up and continue like And Shaitan not touching him and his mother is also a privilege miracle from Allah.

Jesus was pure just as John the Baptist was righteous! Other Prophets too were similarly described!
Then the angels called him, while he was standing in prayer in Al-Mihrab (a praying place or a private room), (saying): "Allah gives you glad tidings of Yahya (John), confirming (believing in) the Word from Allah [i.e. the creation of 'Iesa (Jesus) , the Word from Allah ("Be!" - and he was!)], noble, keeping away from sexual relations with women, a Prophet, from among the righteous." (Qur'an 3:39)

"He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;" (Qur'an 19:30)

And Jesus will be questioned by Allah on resurrection day!
And (remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?' " He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner­self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All­Knower of all that is hidden and unseen. Qur'an 5:116

Captain4Jehovah:
considqqqer the example of Moses:
He said: My Lord! Lo! I have wronged my soul, so forgive me. Then He forgave him. Lo! He is the Forgiving, the Merciful. (Qur'an 28:16, Pickthall)
David too is an example of God-fearing behaviour.
And David guessed that We had tried him, and he sought forgiveness of his Lord, and he bowed himself and fell down prostrate and repented. So We forgave him that; and lo! he had access to Our presence and a happy journey's end. (Qu'ran 38:24-25, Pickthall)
The David said to (the prophet) Nathan, "I have sinned against the LORD." Nathan replied, "The LORD has taken away your sin." (Bible, 2 Samuel 12:13)
Muhammad also was coqmmanded to confess his sin.
So know (O Muhammad) that there is no Allah save Allah, and ask forgiveness for thy sin and for believing men and believing women. (Qur'an 47:19, Pickthall) [3]
And so Muhammad prayed:
Oh my Lord! Forgive my sins and my ignorance and my exceeding the limits (boundaries) of righteousness in all my deeds and what you know better than I. O Allah! Forgive my mistakes, those I do intentionally or out of my ignorance or (without) or with seriousness, and I confess that all such mistakes are done by me. O Allah! Forgive my sins of the past and of the future which I did openly or secretly. (Sahih al-Bukhari: vol. 8, book 75, no. 407, 408) [4]
There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Bible, Romans 3:22-23).
The Qur'an and the Bible both teach that all of Adam's descendants, that is, all of mankind, have sinned in one way or another. No one has offered perfect submission to God in any religion.
The Man Jesus
The man Jesus is unique in both the Bible and Qur'an because in both books it is recorded that he alone was born of a virgin.
qqqHe (the angel) said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son. She said: How can I have a son when no mortal hath touched me, neither have I been unchaste? He said: So (it will be). Thy Lord saith: It is easy for Me. (Qur'an 19:19-21, Pickthall)
And Mary, daughter of `Imran, whose body was chaste, therefor We breathed therein something of Our Spirit. ... (Qur'an 66:12, Pickthall)
This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. Because Joseph her husband was a righteous man and did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins. (Bible, Matthew qqaq1qa1:18-21)
Have you ever wondered why Jesus alone was born of a virgin by the Holy Spirit? What did God reveal by doing this? The conception of Jesus is very different to the way we are conceive xd quick qq, and very different to the way the other prophets were conceived. We are all the natural descendants of Adam, born the natural way. However, Jesus is a supernatural descendant of Adam because he was born of a virgin. Jesus is more than a natural descendant of Adam; he is in fact like Adam when Adam was first created.
Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is. (Qur'an 3:59, Pickthall)
Just as Adam had a supernatural start to life so too Jesus had a supernatural start as a man. The virgin birth demonstates the power of God to make a new Adam, a new start for humanity. Since Jesus is the new Adam this raises an important question. Is Jesus like Adam when he was sinless in the garden? Or is Jesus like Adam after he had sinned?
The Perfect Man
As we have seen, the Qur'an records that even the great prophets confessed their sins; however, it never once records that Jesus confessed his sin.
Muhammad said [5] of Jesus:
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "When any human being is born. Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers, except Jesus, the son of Mary, whom Satan tried to touch but failed". (Sahih al-Bukhari: vol. 4, book 54, no. 506)
The Qur'an also declares Jesus' perfection [6] when it says that he is the only person who is always blessed.
And (God) hath made me (Jesus) blessed wheresoever I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive (Qur'an 19:31, Pickthall).
For every moment of his life Jesus was blessed. This Arabic word for blessed (mubaarak) is only used to describe Jesus and is never used for anyone else. But it is used elsewhere to describe things that the Qur'an considers perfect. Thus the Qur'an itself is called blessed (6:93, 156), the first house of prayer is called blessed (3:96), and the olive tree that provides oil for the likeness of the light of God is called blessed (24:35), but Jesus is the only person who is blessed in this perfect way.
This perfect Jesus lived the life that Adam should have lived. Adam listen to Satan, but qAaJesus rejected Satan.
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me." Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: `Worship the qLord your God, and serve him only.' " Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him. (Bible, Matthew 4:8-11)
The Bible clearly reveals that Jesus was perfect and without sin.
Yet because I (Jesus) tell the truth, you do not believe me! Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God." (Bible, John 8:45-47)
He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth. (Bible, 1 Peter 2:22)
And in him is no sin. (Bible, 1 John 3:5)
(Jesus said) "The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him." Even as he spoke, many put their faith in him. (Bible, John 8:29)

AntiChristian:

He committed no sin or Allah made him as such? Everything you wrote about Jesus are what Allah made him as. Jesus said by himself he can do nothing!

So once again I tell you Jesus has no power!

And once again in Qur'an 19:30, Jesus is a slave of Allah!

Just as Jesus was a humble worshipper!

Matthew 14:23
“And when he (Jesus) had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray…..”

Matthew 26:39
Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed...

[/b][b]I say: If he (Jesus) is God or a part of God then why did he pray? In fact, prayer is always from a submitting, needy and dependent one for the Mercy of Almighty Allah as mentioned in the Qur’ân. (V. 35:15):-

“O mankind! it is you who stand in need of Allah but Allah is Rich (Free of all wants and needs), Worthy of all praise” (35:15).

And in (V. 19:93) of Qur’ân:-
p“There is none in the heavens and the earth tyebut comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) as a slave.”

Captain4Jehovah:
If Allah made him so, then the equation is
balanced. He fulfilled the plan of God_the redemptive plan. The true God requires unblemished propitiation for this redemption unlike Mohammed who tainted himself. Consider this:

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Romans 12 : 1

AntiChristian:
Who is beseeching you? This is a letter not scripture!

What plan of Allah did he fulfill? He remains a slave of Allah subservient to him. And as he said he will deny you all on the last day!

AntiChristian:
Who is beseeching you? This is a letter not scripture!

What plan of Allah did he fulfill? He remains a slave of Allah subservient to him. And as he said he will deny you all on the last day!

Captain4Jehovah:
What is the difference between a scripture and a letter as far as spiritual message is concerned? Were the letters not SCRIPTED as the Old Testament? Why are they called scriptures? Is the spirit in the old testament prophets different from the apostles'?

He fulfilled the eternal redemptive work which Adam failed to accomplish.

AntiChristian:
Yes, Scripture is from God to a Prophet. Letter is from a human to other human!
Paul wrote to his congregations. Those are letters.

The spirit of the old testament inspired Samson to kill many times.

It didn't inspire killings in the new testament!

That's a huge difference.

Yes, Scripture is from God to a Prophet. Letter is from a human to other human!
Paul wrote to his congregations. Those are letters.

Captain4Jehovah:
This is exactly Satan's Gospel about the Bible.

The Spirit of the God of the Old Testament must be different from the New!

AntiChristian:
I wonder which can be proven scientifically from the attached picture!


Mightysparrow the greatest Christian scientist over to you!