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Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by aswani(m): 1:48pm On Dec 19, 2024
Kukutente23:
Just admit you're an ignoramus who writes rubbish for a living

Quote the section of the constitution since morning you've been dancing around like a baboon

I can now confirm that empty barrels make the most noise
Let's ignore all the abuse. How do you think an LGA chairman that misbehaves can be removed if Exousiang01 is wrong?

Or are they the only arm of government that can only do what without being affected by the checks and balances structure of government?
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Kukutente23: 3:33pm On Dec 19, 2024
aswani:
Let's ignore all the abuse. How do you think an LGA chairman that misbehaves can be removed if Exousiang01 is wrong?

Or are they the only arm of government that can only do what without being affected by the checks and balances structure of government?
An LG chairman can be removed by his legislative council. That is the body with legislative functions at the local govt level and not the state assembly. The state assembly does not legislate for the LGs so they cannot remove an LG chair. This argument is like saying the House of Reps which has the power to take over the legislative functions in a state where the state Assembly cannot function can impeach the governor in the period they function as the legislative body for the state. The constitution clearly states that is not possible. Only a properly constituted SHoA can remove a state governor.

That said, there is NOWHERE in the constitution where state Assemblies are given powers to suspend or impeach LG chairs. I challenge that dude to mention the section. He's an ignoramus defending nonsense simply because it happened in Lagos. Anything that happens in Lagos is right as far as they are concerned
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by aswani(m): 3:55pm On Dec 19, 2024
Kukutente23:
An LG chairman can be removed by his legislative council. That is the body with legislative functions at the local govt level and not the state assembly. The state assembly does not legislate for the LGs so they cannot remove an LG chair. This argument is like saying the House of Reps which has the power to take over the legislative functions in a state where the state Assembly cannot function can impeach the governor in the period they function as the legislative body for the state. The constitution clearly states that is not possible. Only a properly constituted SHoA can remove a state governor.

That said, there is NOWHERE in the constitution where state Assemblies are given powers to suspend or impeach LG chairs. I challenge that dude to mention the section. He's an ignoramus defending nonsense simply because it happened in Lagos. Anything that happens in Lagos is right as far as they are concerned
Interesting stuff, thanks.

Are you able to show me where in the constitution, it suggests only the LGA legislative council can remove an LGA chairman?

I am not saying you are wrong BTW.
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Yampotatocarrot(m): 4:20pm On Dec 19, 2024
aswani:
Interesting stuff, thanks.
Are you able to show me where in the constitution, it suggests only the LGA legislative council can remove an LGA chairman?
I am not saying you are wrong BTW.
Let me quickly state this, in the Lagos State example used, the chairman was suspended on the basis of the Lagos State Local Government administration law, not the Nigerian constitution.

As for what the Nigerian constitution says about their suspension, it's kind of confusing. The suspension of local government chairmen is to be in three folds; a combination of constitutional, legislative and judicial procedure which may or may not include an investigation initiated by the governor... But will include a resolution by the local government council

The thing just dey confusing sha
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Kukutente23: 4:22pm On Dec 19, 2024
aswani:
Interesting stuff, thanks.

Are you able to show me where in the constitution, it suggests only the LGA legislative council can remove an LGA chairman?

I am not saying you are wrong BTW.
The constitution is actually silent about the LG council composition and functions. So you cannot find such in the constitution. That was the point I was making to that dude

The fact remains though that since the constitution guarantees democratic running of the LGs, the state house of assembly cannot carry out legislative oversight on the LGs which is where things like impeachment are
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by aswani(m): 5:08pm On Dec 19, 2024
Kukutente23:
The constitution is actually silent about the LG council composition and functions. So you cannot find such in the constitution. That was the point I was making to that dude

The fact remains though that since the constitution guarantees democratic running of the LGs, the state house of assembly cannot carry out legislative oversight on the LGs which is where things like impeachment are
I think State governors can do as they please with them but point well made I guess.

Obi apparently did without LG chairmen during his tenure (I am told). Obaseki too didn't have them for most of his tenure and only put them in, with his nonsense elections, on his way out.

So I think Gorvenors can do as they wish with them and they don't have much by way of constitutional protection.

A grey area that the constitution needs firming up on.
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Kukutente23: 5:11pm On Dec 19, 2024
aswani:
I think State governors can do as they please with them but point well made I guess.

Obi apparently did without LG chairmen during his tenure (I am told). Obaseki too didn't have them for most of his tenure and only put them in, with his nonsense elections, on his way out.

So I think Gorvenors can do as they wish with them and they don't have much by way of constitutional protection.

A gray area that
Looks like the constitution needs so
That was the belief that led to caretaker committees

But the SC has rightly ruled that governance at the LGs must be democratic which entails having elected officials and branches of govt
With that, the SC is telling us that LGs must run their own mandates
So govs and HoAs have less influence over them than before thought. But I don't really agree with the SC judgement but that is what it implies as at today
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by aswani(m): 5:13pm On Dec 19, 2024
Yampotatocarrot:
Let me quickly state this, in the Lagos State example used, the chairman was suspended on the basis of the Lagos State Local Government administration law, not the Nigerian constitution.

As for what the Nigerian constitution says about their suspension, it's kind of confusing. The suspension of local government chairmen is to be in three folds; a combination of constitutional, legislative and judicial procedure which may or may not include an investigation initiated by the governor... But will include a resolution by the local government council

The thing just dey confusing sha
Thanks for shedding more light on this. I genuinely just assumed they could be dissolved at the behest of the gorvenor but based on what you have said, I am clearly wrong.

Like you said, a minefield. Hopefully the Edo state guys will test things in court.
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by aswani(m): 5:15pm On Dec 19, 2024
Kukutente23:
That was the belief that led to caretaker committees

But the SC has rightly ruled that governance at the LGs must be democratic which entails having elected officials and branches of govt
With that, the SC is telling us that LGs must run their own mandates
So govs and HoAs have less influence over them than before thought. But I don't really agree with the SC judgement but that is what it implies as at today
Hmm, left well open to interpretation, no wonder chaos abounds.
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Cromagnon: 9:38pm On Dec 19, 2024
eldoradoxx:
If the President does not have the powers to suspend a Governor, then i wonder where Governors derive the power to suspend elected Local Government Chairmen. It is illegal
no it aint
Read ur constitution well
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Cromagnon: 9:40pm On Dec 19, 2024
chibnnodi:
Mr Monday, the LGA chairman were elected, the same way you were. Remember that we have three levels of government in the country. So, you don't have the constitutional rights to suspend them,
Yes he does
Read your constitution
because the president of the country cannot through the National Assembly suspend the governor of a state, too.
School no be scam!
president is different from governor. Different powers conferred by constitution
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Cromagnon: 9:43pm On Dec 19, 2024
temisartana:
You can't just suspend dully elected local government chairmen just like that. Just as neither the president nor the national assembly can't suspend a sitting state governor.
Yeah you can
The supreme court has decided on local government autonomy. And they have immunity while in office.
What did court say, verbatim
Not what you think it said
Research before talking
The only thing you can do Mr governor is to allow them to complete their tenure in office and then use EFCC against them.
He don't gotta do jack
Or you probe and charge them to court of jurisdiction. But for you to suspend them now on mere insubordination and gross misconduct as you claimed is totally illegal.
No it's not
You don't need any lawyer to Interpret this for you.
Clearly YOU do
Your so called suspension is null and void whether you like it or not since law is concerned.
are you trying to convince yourself
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Cromagnon: 9:44pm On Dec 19, 2024
Frankiss44:
Suspend all at once..not one or even two? Do you people really want a better Nigeria or u just want to continue supporting these corrupt politicians
Do you want to follow the law or you want do whatever you feel like without any rules?
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Cromagnon: 9:46pm On Dec 19, 2024
ikdaddy01:
...where the apex court removed the powers of the 36 state governors and House of Assembly, or acting through their privies, to dissolve or interfere in local government administration or management by using state powers derivable from laws enacted by the House of Assembly or (anyhow so-called or executive orders/other actions (anyhow so-called).
courts can't write laws or change them
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Cromagnon: 9:46pm On Dec 19, 2024
Kelklein:
It's very clear that he has a personal vendetta against the Chairmen..

These guys were elected by Obaseki the Nigerian way we all know and it was natural that they worked for him in the last governorship election in the state.

Why not simply find a way to work with them.. allow them use out their time, then elect your own chairmen.. picking on elected local chairmen to settle personal score is just wrong..
political suicide
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Cromagnon: 9:50pm On Dec 19, 2024
MamaOghenero:
Yes! They should stand their ground. That useless thief called Okoebholo cannot do more than a dead rat.
No be only stand
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by aswani(m): 10:22pm On Dec 19, 2024
Frankiss44:
Suspend all at once..not one or even two? Do you people really want a better Nigeria or u just want to continue supporting these corrupt politicians
They were all told to account for the 800 million naira each that they received. Instead of doing so, they decided to start forming Labour Union

Why should that kind of financial recklessness be acceptable?
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Kukutente23: 12:23am On Dec 20, 2024
Exousiang01:
Keep following me.
I have given you a job.

We thousands of users but you are the only one following me around like the lost puppy you are. And you think you are normal....


Your parents lied to you.
I am not responsible for educating you.
Go and get knowledge...

But you are free to keep following me.
I hope you have seen the FG's stand on the suspension

https://www.nairaland.com/8297216/fg-says-edo-governor-no/2

Shame on you. I know you'll go back to your vomit now
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by bixton(m): 2:29am On Dec 20, 2024
Kukutente23:
Stop writing rubbish
Where did the FG amend the constitution? Can the FG amend the constitution unilaterally
https://politicsnigeria.com/just-in-fg-warns-okpebholo-says-edo-governor-has-no-right-to-suspend-lga-chairmen/
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Exousiang01(m): 6:11am On Dec 20, 2024
Kukutente23:
I hope you have seen the FG's stand on the suspension

https://www.nairaland.com/8297216/fg-says-edo-governor-no/2

Shame on you. I know you'll go back to your vomit now
You can see that you are actually retarded.
We were talking about the state house of Assembly.
The news initially said it was the state house of Assembly...
was i talking about the governor...

You a re just a retard.
No wonder someone was calling out your brainlessness on the other thread
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Frankiss44(m): 9:42pm On Dec 20, 2024
aswani:
They were all told to account for the 800 million naira each that they received. Instead of doing so, they decided to start forming Labour Union

Why should that kind of financial recklessness be acceptable?
No stupid govenor has any right to suspend elected local government chairmen
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Frankiss44(m): 9:43pm On Dec 20, 2024
Cromagnon:
Do you want to follow the law or you want do whatever you feel like without any rules?
No law empowers any governor to suspend elected local government chairmen..

Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Frankiss44(m): 9:44pm On Dec 20, 2024
Exousiang01:
You can see that you are actually retarded.
We were talking about the state house of Assembly.
The news initially said it was the state house of Assembly...
was i talking about the governor...

You a re just a retard.
No wonder someone was calling out your brainlessness on the other thread
The state house of assembly has no constitutional right to suspend elected local government chairmen.. Know this and know peace
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by Exousiang01(m): 12:33am On Dec 21, 2024
Frankiss44:
The state house of assembly has no constitutional right to suspend elected local government chairmen.. Know this and know peace
Smokers
Re: ‘You Can’t Suspend Us’ – Edo LG Chairmen Dare Okpebholo, Assembly by mipeesoft(m): 4:16pm On Dec 21, 2024
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