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Luke 18:19
Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good?
No one is [essentially and morally] good except God alone.

Mark 10:18
Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good?
No one is [essentially] good [by nature] except God alone

Psalm 23:1
The LORD is my Shepherd [to feed, to guide and to shield me],
I shall not want.

John 10:14
I am the Good Shepherd,
and I know [without any doubt those who are] My own
and My own know Me [and have a deep, personal relationship with Me]

MaxInDHouse, Janosky et al JWs, AntiChristian, please truthfully answer these easy, basic, direct, simple, thoughtful and straightforward critical thinking four questions:
1/ Is Jesus Good? Give a Yes or No answer
2/ If Jesus' being called Good what does that make Jesus?
3/ If the young ruler called Jesus Good, what was the young ruler considering Jesus is?
4/ Is God able, capable, and equipped to exist in more than one place at a time? (i.e. exist in heaven & physically on earth at the same)

cc'ed: iSense247, MightySparrow,

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. John 5:30


According to Jesus himself is he good or taught to do what is good?
So between Jesus and his TEACHER who did Jesus say is truly GOOD?

Looool!

Just for you to know the extent they can go to manipulate scriptures to make Jesus bad

MaxInDHouse:
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. John 5:30


According to Jesus himself is he good or taught to do what is good?
So between Jesus and his TEACHER who taught him who did Jesus say is truly GOOD?

Dancing round the question with questions

achorladey:
Dancing round the question with questions

I'm a Nigerian, without prior notice or under stress we (Nigerians) answer question with question!

NNTR:
Luke 18:19
Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good?
No one is [essentially and morally] good except God alone.

Mark 10:18
Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good?
No one is [essentially] good [by nature] except God alone

Psalm 23:1
The LORD is my Shepherd [to feed, to guide and to shield me],
I shall not want.

John 10:14
I am the Good Shepherd,
and I know [without any doubt those who are] My own
and My own know Me [and have a deep, personal relationship with Me]

MaxInDHouse, Janosky et al JWs please truthfully answer these easy, basic, direct, simple, thoughtful and straightforward critical thinking four questions:
1/ Is Jesus Good? Give a Yes or No answer
2/ If Jesus' being called Good what does that make Jesus?
3/ If the young ruler called Jesus Good, what was the young ruler considering Jesus is?
4/ Is God able, capable, and equipped to exist in more than one place at a time? (i.e. exist in heaven & physically on earth at the same)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

You quoted only from the Christian scriptures. I used to follow this Jesus fellow, but when I discovered he was just a made up character I just had to get back on the the divine statues and laws before I get lost again..
1. Is Jesus good? Well, he did not give me anything when I was following him, never knowing it was all a mirage. So the answer is No
2. I don't know anybody that calls him good apart from pastors and GOs. That cash out at least once every week. All my friends who claim to follow him got what they have by working hard and having connections...so nobody is saying he is good. Except for only people in the story book/literature.
3. Oh the story, so somebody wrote that one of his characters called another character good...well may be they were involved in an orgy...no one knows. The story teller did not provide any meaningful information.
4. Capital NO. God the creator is of different essence/make up to anything he created. It is just like this, a woman creates a soup. The woman can not exist in the soup as anything. The creator is always outside his creation. Just imagine Innoson existing in one of the cars he created. A big impossibility. Innoson and his cars are of different materials.. do you understand this? A creator can not be part of his creation. Comprende??


I hope with this few points of mine I have been able to convince you and not confuse you that Jesus is a Roman Catholic invention..Thank you.

achorladey:
Dancing round the question with questions

Can always bank to dodge answering the innocent and harmless questions with the typical JW shuffle and dancing round them

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
I can of mine own self do nothing:
as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just;
because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:30

According to Jesus himself is he good or taught to do what is good?
So between Jesus and his TEACHER who did Jesus say is truly GOOD?

Stick to answering the four question please
Open a separate thread to host the questions you're trying to introduce here and I promise to reply you on there

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

sonmvayina:
You quoted only from the Christian scriptures. I used to follow this Jesus fellow, but when I discovered he was just a made up character I just had to get back on the the divine statues and laws before I get lost again..

Please give the name of the higher power, whom you follow, look up to, you answer to and whose authority you submit to

sonmvayina:
1. Is Jesus good? Well, he did not give me anything when I was following him, never knowing it was all a mirage. So the answer is No

OK, and thanks for your honesty

sonmvayina:
2. I don't know anybody that calls him good apart from pastors and GOs. That cash out at least once every week. All my friends who claim to follow him got what they have by working hard and having connections...so nobody is saying he is good. Except for only people in the story book/literature.

I am asking you personally, so blank out pastors & GOs

sonmvayina:
3. Oh the story, so somebody wrote that one of his characters called another character good...well may be they were involved in an orgy...no one knows. The story teller did not provide any meaningful information.

If the first character (i.e. the religious leader) called the second character (i.e. Jesus) good, contextually & thoughtfully speaking, then what biblically was the religious leader unconsciously saying Jesus is?

sonmvayina:
4. Capital NO. God the creator is of different essence/make up to anything he created. It is just like this, a woman creates a soup. The woman can not exist in the soup as anything. The creator is always outside his creation. Just imagine Innoson existing in one of the cars he created. A big impossibility. Innoson and his cars are of different materials.. do you understand this? A creator can not be part of his creation. Comprende??

God the creator is of different essence alright, and is self-existing, pre-existing and co-existing
Now take this. It is not impossible for God to incarnate. Comprende?

sonmvayina:
I hope with this few points of mine I have been able to convince you and not confuse you that Jesus is a Roman Catholic invention..Thank you.

White Jesus deffo is a RCC invention. Thank you

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Stick to answering the four question please
Open a separate thread to host the questions you're trying to introduce here and I promise to reply you on there

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

I'm not interested in your nonsense, if you ask me and i also ask you i'm only responding to show i care not that i'm obligated in any way to answer you so when you are ready answer the question i asked you! Matthew 21:23-27

NNTR:
Please give the name of the higher power, whom you follow, look up to, you answer to and whose authority you submit to

Who is asking you to submit to any higher power? God is within each and every one of us. We are all Gods experiencing life in multiple ways..we only have the divine laws (Torah/omenani and odinani) to guide us and make us remember who we are and also enjoy the experiences.

OK, and thanks for your honesty

thanks

I am asking you personally, so blank out pastors & GOs

No..

If the first character (i.e. the religious leader) called the second character (i.e. Jesus) good, contextually & thoughtfully speaking, then what biblically was the religious leader unconsciously saying Jesus is?

he could be good in his craft. People are good at what they do. Messi and Ronaldo are good footballers. Maybe Jesus was a good carpenter like his father according to the story.

God the creator is of different essence alright, and is self-existing, pre-existing and co-existing
Now take this. It is not impossible for God to incarnate.

God? Incarnate...is that not what we all are? Body made of dust + spirit of God. Spirit is same image and likeness as God. (see Ecclesiastics 12:7 and Psalm 104:29-37) and Genesis 1:25-26.

White Jesus deffo is a RCC invention. Thank you

which other Jesus do you know about? They own the patent right to the Jesus Character.

_{Personal text: Jesus is a Roman creation. He is fiction who stories are told about.}[/quote]

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not interested in your nonsense, if you ask me and i also ask you i'm only responding to show i care not that i'm obligated in any way to answer you so when you are ready answer the question i asked you! Matthew 21:23-27

I feel your cognitive dissonance beloved

Let me document the responses:
Jesus is Good = 0
Jesus is not Good = 1
Dodge the question = 1

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
I feel your cognitive dissonance beloved

Let me document the responses:
Jesus is Good = 0
Jesus is not Good = 1
Dodge the question = 1

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Go and meet your fellow trinitarians to settle with them on whatever you guys wish to believe about Jesus or you stick to what the scriptures say:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

Jesus' father is my father and Jesus' God is my God!

sonmvayina:
Who is asking you to submit to any higher power? God is within each and every one of us. We are all Gods experiencing life in multiple ways..we only have the divine laws (Torah/omenani and odinani) to guide us and make us remember who we are and also enjoy the experiences.

'... submit to' meaning, accept the existing of a higher power & yielding to the higher power
What primarily are you here on earth for?

sonmvayina:
No..

Heard you the first time & have since recorded your reply

sonmvayina:
he could be good in his craft. People are good at what they do. Messi and Ronaldo are good footballers. Maybe Jesus was a good carpenter like his father according to the story.

In context of God who alone is good, the question is asked

sonmvayina:
God? Incarnate...is that not what we all are? Body made of dust + spirit of God. Spirit is same image and likeness as God. (see Ecclesiastics 12:7 and Psalm 104:29-37) and Genesis 1:25-26.

You are soul, in a dirt suit called body, which returns to the ground when one kpai, powered by ruach aka living force (i.e.breath of God), which returns back to God when one kpai

Incarnate means God embodied in human being flesh, not to be mistaken with God as a Spirit residing inside the soul proxy the heart

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
I'm a Nigerian, without prior notice or under stress we (Nigerians) answer question with question!

You can come from Myanmar or Vietnam, it won't change the taste and see that the Lord is good to taste and see the Lord is bad.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and meet your fellow trinitarians to settle with them on whatever you guys wish to believe about Jesus or you stick to what the scriptures say:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father.
But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”
John 20:17

Jesus' father is my father and Jesus' God is my God!

You can tap dance out of the questions as much and as long as you like

Its baffling, why you bring in trinitarians when God is bigger than and beyond trinity, and your other distractions, when the questions were asked, simply to establish out who in the bible, good is attributed to

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
'... submit to' meaning, accept the existing of a higher power & yielding to the higher power
What primarily are you here on earth for?

which higher power? There is no higher power. The only higher power is within you. He is in you, you are in him...you are not thinking at all...

Heard you the first time & have since recorded your reply

ok

In context of God who alone is good

is God good? See Isaiah 45:7.

Or define your context.

You are soul, in a dirt suit called body, which returns to the ground when one kpai, powered by ruach aka living force (i.e.breath of God), which returns back to God when one kpai

Incarnate means God embodied in human being flesh, not to be mistaken with God as a Spirit residing inside the soul proxy the heart

Did you really read this before you sent it? Is there any difference? Read it yourself. There is no difference. If Jesus actually existed, he is no different from us. That's why the story said he died. Only humans/animals/ plants dies....God is not any of those. That's why he cant die..
_{Personal text: Jesus is fake.}

NNTR:
You can tap dance out of the questions as much and as long as you like
Its baffling, why you bring in trinitarians when God is bigger than and beyond trinity, and your other distractions, when the questions were asked, simply to establish out who in the bible, good is attributed to
_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Who did Jesus attributed GOOD to?

sonmvayina:
which higher power? There is no higher power. The only higher power is within you. He is in you, you are in him...you are not thinking at all...
ok
is God good? See Isaiah 45:7.
Or define your context.

Did you really read this before you sent it? Is there any difference? Read it yourself. There is no difference. If Jesus actually existed, he is no different from us. That's why the story said he died. Only humans/animals/ plants dies....God is not any of those. That's why he cant die..
_{Personal text: Jesus is fake.}

Lets start all over, only please stick to only answering the questions

1/ Is Jesus Good? Give a Yes or No answer
2/ If Jesus' being called Good by the religious leader, what does that biblically make Jesus?
3/ If the young religious leader, called Jesus Good, what was the religious leader, subconsciously referring Jesus is?
4/ Is God able, capable, and equipped to exist in more than one place at a time? (i.e. exist in heaven & physically on earth at the same)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
Who did Jesus attributed GOOD to?

God, of course

Now here another question for you to dodge:
Is Jesus GOOD?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

achorladey:
You can come from Myanmar or Vietnam, it won't change the taste and see that the Lord is good to taste and see the Lord is bad.

Taste and see that Jehovah is good; Happy is the man who takes refuge in him. Psalms 34:8 NWT

O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. Psalms 34:8 KJV

Who is the LORD the Psalmist was referring to JEHOVAH or JESUS?

NNTR:
God, of course
Now here another question for you to dodge:
Is Jesus GOOD?
_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

What did Jesus say about that?

"Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God. Mark 10:18

Only GOD is GOOD according to Jesus.

Do you agree with Jesus?

MaxInDHouse:
Taste and see that Jehovah is good;
Happy is the man who takes refuge in him.
Psalms 34:8 NWT

O taste and see that the LORD is good:
blessed is the man that trusteth in him.
Psalms 34:8 KJV

Who is the LORD the Psalmist was referring to JEHOVAH or JESUS?

Psalm 23:1
The LORD is my Shepherd [to feed, to guide and to shield me],
I shall not want.

John 10:14
I AM the Good Shepherd,
and I know [without any doubt those who are] My own
and My own know Me [and have a deep, personal relationship with Me]

The psalmist is referring to YHWH aka Yahweh pka Jehovah (i.e. I AM) in Psalms 34:8, even in Psalm 23:1 and in a technically roundabout way, is referring to Yahshua aka Jesus too

Recognise that Yahshua aka Jesus, is God Incarnate, meaning God embodied in human flesh body

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
What did Jesus say about that?

"Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God. Mark 10:18

Only GOD is GOOD according to Jesus.

Do you agree with Jesus?

I agree with Jesus that only God is good, but did the young religious leader realise what he unconsciously connected Jesus to be?

Recognise that Jesus never dismissed the religious leader's thought of Him being Good, but was making the young religious leader think over his thought process for him to have an epiphany

I hear you that only God is good, but now I'll reask you again:
1/ Is Jesus good?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Lets start all over, only please stick to only answering the questions

1/ Is Jesus Good? Give a Yes or No answer
2/ If Jesus' being called Good by the religious leader, what does that biblically make Jesus?
3/ If the young religious leader, called Jesus Good, what was the religious leader, subconsciously referring Jesus is?
4/ Is God able, capable, and equipped to exist in more than one place at a time? (i.e. exist in heaven & physically on earth at the same)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Questions 1 to 3 makes no sense to me.
If we substitute Harry Potter for Jesus it still means the same thing. We only know what the story teller said about the characters in their stories. But With The creator of heaven and earth. We experience creation every single day. Which is the purpose of life, to experience creation...
4. God exist in creation through us. We are all God's experiencing life...when we expire, God's spirit leaves and become one spirit with the source. The body is buried and it becomes one with the earth...

NNTR:
Psalm 23:1
The LORD is my Shepherd [to feed, to guide and to shield me],
I shall not want.

John 10:14
I AM the Good Shepherd,
and I know [without any doubt those who are] My own
and My own know Me [and have a deep, personal relationship with Me]

The psalmist is referring to YHWH aka Yahweh pka Jehovah (i.e. I AM) in Psalms 34:8, even in Psalm 23:1 and in a technically roundabout way, is referring to Yahshua aka Jesus too

Recognise that Yahshua aka Jesus, is God Incarnate, meaning God embodied in human flesh body

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

This is including you and me...

NNTR:
Psalm 23:1
The LORD is my Shepherd [to feed, to guide and to shield me],
I shall not want.

John 10:14
I AM the Good Shepherd,
and I know [without any doubt those who are] My own
and My own know Me [and have a deep, personal relationship with Me]

The psalmist is referring to YHWH aka Yahweh pka Jehovah (i.e. I AM) in Psalms 34:8, even in Psalm 23:1 and in a technically roundabout way, is referring to Yahshua aka Jesus too

Recognise that Yahshua aka Jesus, is God Incarnate, meaning God embodied in human flesh body

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

The post wasn't for you but since you decide to respond i will show you what the Bible say on that.

The KJV always render the divine name with four Hebrew alphabets YHWH translated YAHWEH or JEHOVAH as LORD so when David said The LORD is my Shepherd {Psalms 23:1} the NWT rendered it this way:

"JEHOVAH is my Shepherd"

WHY?

Because there are TWO persons the KJV used the title lord for, KJV used upper case LORD for JEHOVAH and lower case Lord for Jesus that's why KJV said @ Psalms 110:1

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.


But the NWT rendered the same verse as:

JEHOVAH declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

Peter confirmed David saw someone who is greater than Jesus:

For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Act 2:34-36

Please answer this question, who is the LORD that David was talking about @ Psalms 23:1?

MaxInDHouse:
Taste and see that Jehovah is good; Happy is the man who takes refuge in him. Psalms 34:8 NWT

O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. Psalms 34:8 KJV

Who is the LORD the Psalmist was referring to JEHOVAH or JESUS?

In content and context it is referring to JEHOVAH. I have answered your question.

Learn, no way, one of the verse that cannot stand your manipulations of your NWT is

1 Peter 2:3.....now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.

The Lord here is referring to JEHOVAH or JESUS?

I want to check something in whatever format you respond

NNTR:
I agree with Jesus that only God is good, but did the young religious leader realise what he unconsciously connected Jesus to be?

Recognise that Jesus never dismissed the religious leader's thought of Him being Good, but was making the young religious leader think over his thought process for him to have an epiphany

I hear you that only God is good, but now I'll reask you again:
1/ Is Jesus good?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse answer the question with another question

NNTR:
Jesus never dismissed the religious leader's thought of Him being Good,

This is a LIE!



Jesus said:

Nobody is good except one, God. Luke 18:19

Jesus said only one person is GOOD!

MaxInDHouse:
This is a LIE!



Jesus said:

Nobody is good except one, God. Luke 18:19

Jesus said only one person is GOOD!

To you MaxInDHouse, Is Jesus good? just like the religious leader thought. That's what the OP is asking.

From your own perspective and knowledge about Jesus as taught by your Governing body or your religious leaders. Is Jesus Good?

achorladey:
To you MaxInDHouse, Is Jesus good? just like the religious leader thought. That's what the OP is asking.
From your own perspective and knowledge about Jesus as taught by your Governing body or your religious leaders. Is Jesus Good?

I will say nothing out of my own initiative i believe my Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus!

Jesus said: Nobody is good except one, God. Luke 18:19