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Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Believeintruth: 5:15pm On Dec 25, 2024
chrisxxx:
He said proud Igbo brought up.
He is clearly Igbo. Stop looking for imaginary loopholes to justify rubbish. You are clearly a Yoruba boy.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by XXXOGBA: 5:15pm On Dec 25, 2024
Cindypresh:
Ikechukwu.

Knowledge is power, I want to learn. Can you tell us??
You never gree sey you be my love.

I fit learn from you too.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Stolen: 5:16pm On Dec 25, 2024
XXXOGBA:
You go tey for your erosion land. Ozwor
THE EROSION LAND DON REJECT U.


U MUST SWIM THAT RIVER NIGER AND RETURN BACK TO BINI.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Believeintruth: 5:16pm On Dec 25, 2024
chrisxxx:
OSU Ikwerres don't answer the names of slaves. Ikwerres don't add N in the beginning of their names as it is a special reserve for the slaves among them and far away.
Dude you are a yoruba boy, even this rubbish you wrote, you know ow it is clearly false.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by XXXOGBA: 5:16pm On Dec 25, 2024
Cindypresh:
How are you not Igbo??
I am not Igbo because I am not Igbo.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Believeintruth: 5:16pm On Dec 25, 2024
XXXOGBA:
You never gree sey you be my love.

I fit learn from you too.
Oga you are igbo
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Believeintruth: 5:16pm On Dec 25, 2024
XXXOGBA:
Unity beggar
You are igbo
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by XXXOGBA: 5:17pm On Dec 25, 2024
Stolen:
THE EROSION LAND DON REJECT U.


U MUST SWIM THAT RIVER NIGER AND RETURN BACK TO BINI.
You go give me swimming lessons? cheesy cheesy
Land grabber.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by XXXOGBA: 5:17pm On Dec 25, 2024
Believeintruth:
You are igbo
Kan vu eyen isoma.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Stolen: 5:18pm On Dec 25, 2024
XXXOGBA:
You go give me swimming lessons? cheesy cheesy
Land grabber.
YOUR OWN MATTER DEY VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD, U STILL CAMP NEAR WATER.
NO TOO MUCH WAHALA THERE
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Paraman: 5:19pm On Dec 25, 2024
Believeintruth:
Oga stop being stupid. Stick to your SW This your game has failed woefully. Ikwerre is Igbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ytZh53YK_o?si=rJ5qK7pF-teiHfpZ
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by XXXOGBA: 5:19pm On Dec 25, 2024
Stolen:
YOUR OWN MATTER DEY VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD, U STILL CAMP NEAR WATER.
NO TOO MUCH WAHALA THERE
Okay, my brother. Fix the swimming lessons first. cheesy grin
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Paraman: 5:21pm On Dec 25, 2024
Believeintruth:
Oga this is no proof. These are paid protesters. Look at the small number and rhe neatly printed poster shows clearly that this was funded and planned for political purposes.
You too go and hold your own protest on that same street, till then, Ikwerres are not Igbos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ytZh53YK_o?si=rJ5qK7pF-teiHfpZ

Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Christistruth00: 5:21pm On Dec 25, 2024
Stolen:
As yoruba man, do u mean to tell me u never reach to create therad and concern yourself with yoruba issues and people.

Is to be coming to throw stones at igbo people and acting like somebody under a curse?
So you are under curse?
Because Nairaland itself belongs to a Yoruba man.
So Why don't you carry your baggages to your Ipob websites
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by numericalguy(m): 5:23pm On Dec 25, 2024
Sepukku:
This is the most uneducated and stupidest write up I have ever read,

Language denotes a link to genetic and ethnic similarities, especially within Africa,

Anyone who does not know that is really burying his head in the sand.

One can self-actualize but please do not do it on the foundation of lies.
Leave Ikwere land alone. Why is that so hard for Igbo land grabbers to understand.


Must you people steal other people's land all the time?
Igbos went to Lagos and declared Lagos as no man's land even though they know it is some people's ancestral land
You people went to sabon gari in Kano and tried to steal Hausa land
Your people went to Calabar and declared it Biafra
You claim Kogi, Benue and Nassarawa are parts of Biafra

Why always Igbos trying to steal other people's land everywhere?
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Nlandmodesfku: 5:25pm On Dec 25, 2024
Stolen:
IF U LIKE CARRY 1MILLION MONIKER, U WILL BE FUSTRATED AT THE END.


AGBARO NO BE WORK NA FOOLISHNESS.


BLOODY RASCAL!
Anyone with half a brain would know where I'm from...

We are Rivers and don't want anything to do with Igbo people.

Stay, do your business but don't go beyond that.

Igbos are land grabbers
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Stolen: 5:26pm On Dec 25, 2024
numericalguy:
Leave Ikwere land alone. Why is that so hard for Igbo land grabbers to understand.
Christistruth00:
So you are under curse?
Because Nairaland itself belongs to a Yoruba man.
So Why don't you carry your baggages to your Ipob websites
YORUBA PEOPLE WILL NOT COME AND CHAIN THEIR WEREY NOW.

KEEP DISGRACING YOUR ANCESTORS.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Tranquill:
bismarck:
You are the nuisance here. I just was waiting to expose your LIES, which is not surprising since many people (including you) are history revisionists that feed on petty gossips to massage their ego. You are not from Ikwerre, rather you are an ignorant idiot. Someone seeing you shouting 'Willinks Commission' would assume you know its findings, not knowing you are just another empty head. If 'Ikwerre represented separately', how come the Commission still classified Ikwerre as Igbo? Keep hating on IGBO. Now go and kill yourself..

THE FOLLOWING ARE EXCERPTS FROM THE REPORT OF THE COMMISSION APPOINTED TO “ENQUIRE INTO THE FEARS OF MINORITIES AND THE MEANS OF ALLAYING THEM”, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS “THE WILLINK COMMISSION REPORT OF JULY 1958”
THE HISTORICAL AND POLITICAL BACKGROUND.
1. [b]“More than 98% of people who inhabit this area (the ‘Igbo Plateau’ of the Eastern region) are Igbo and speak one language, though of course with certain differences of dialect. [/b]There are nearly five million of them and they are too many for the soil to support: they are vigorous and intelligent and have pushed outward in every direction, seeking a livelihood by trade or in service in the surrounding areas of the Eastern Region, in the Western Region, in the North and outside Nigeria. They are no more popular with their neighbours than is usual in the case of an energetic and expanding people whose neighbours have a more leisurely outlook on life.”
2. “Though there has been no great kingdom or indigenous culture in the Eastern Region, the coastal chiefs grew on their trade with the (European merchant) ships and they adopted customs, clothing and housing more advanced than those of the peoples of the interior on whom they had at first preyed for slaves. They came during the 19th Century to regard the people of the interior as backward and ignorant, and it was therefore a blow to their pride, as well as to their pockets, when the Ibos began to push outwards into the surrounding fringe of the country and particularly into the Calabar area, to take up land, to grow rich, to own houses and lorries and occupy posts in public services and in the services of large trading firms.”
“It was among the Igbos, formerly despised by the people of Calabar as source of slaves and as a backward people of the interior, now feared and disliked as energetic and educated, that the first political party formed.”
3. “It is important to remember that of this (Ogoja) Province’s 1,082,000 inhabitants, 723,000 are Ibos, almost entirely in Abakaliki and Afikpo (Divisions), while the census classifies 350,000 as “Other Nigerian Tribes.”
4. The Rivers Province …includes the two divisions of Brass and Degema, both overwhelmingly Ijaw, and the Ogoni Division. The former Rivers Division also includes over 300,000 Ibos of whom 250,000 are in Ahoada Division and 45,000 in Port Harcourt. Port Harcourt is a town of recent growth and of rapidly increasing importance; it is built on land that blonged originally to an outlying branch of the Ibo tribe, the Diobus, but is largely inhabited by the Ibos from the interior who have come to trade or seek employment….Of the total 747,000 in the Rivers province, 305,000 are Igbos, 240,000 are Ijaws and 156,000 are Ogonis.”
5. “The strip to the south of the Igbo block, is physically, divided by a block of Igbo territory, tipped by the important Igbo town of Port Harcourt [/b]and tribally divided between the Ijaws and the Ogonis.”
6. “In the whole of this non-Igbo area there is present in varying degree some fear of being over-run, commercially and politically, by the Igbos…..[b] if Ahoada and Port Harcourt, which are really Igbo
, are considered with the solid centre of Ibo population, there are 54 seats for the Ibo area and 30 for COR (Calabar, Ogoja and Rivers) in (Eastern Regional House of Assembly).”
THE FEARS AND GRIEVANCES OF MINORITIES:
7. “It was suggested (by non-Igbo petitioners) that it was the deliberate object of the Ibo majority in the Region to fill every post with Ibos (in public post and services).….when, however we came to consider specific complaints about the composition of public bodies, we found them in many cases exaggerated or unreasonable.”
8. “The allegation was put forward by counsel (to petitioners) that the Judiciary (when not European) was predominantly Igbo, with the implication that this caused fear among those who are not Ibos. But it was clearly stated in evidence by Dr. Udoma, the leader of UNIP, that no occasion could be adduced of the judiciary acting with partiality. The fact is that the legal profession is largely Igbos and the reasons for this do not seem to be Government action. It is therefore inevitable that there should be an Igbo preponderance among Judges and Magistrates. Further, it is the declared policy of Government that the Judiciary should be federal and this does not indicate a desire to control it. Again, the operation and composition of Public Service Commission here, as in the West, appeared to us in no way open to reproach.”
9. “In the Police, which in this region alone is wholly Federal, the number of Ibos in the higher appointments is not out of proportion to the Ibos in the region. The force is now federally controlled and although there are a large number of Ibos in the lower ranks, this is due to the fact that it has for long been a tradition among the Ibos to offer themselves for recruitment in this force in far greater numbers than any other tribe.”
10. “we noted that in five years, 1952 – 1957, from a total of 412 secondary scholarships, 216 were awarded to persons living in the COR areas, while the figures for post-secondary scholarships were 211 out of 623. The latter is about the right proportion of one-third, the former considerably in excess. It was suggested that scholarships awarded to non-Ibos were of an inferior kind and that the best scholarships went to Ibos, but we were, unable to see that this claim held any validity. On the evidence before us, we conclude that the allegations of discriminations in the matter of scholarships are unjustified.”
11. “It was further suggested that loans by the Eastern Regional Finance Corporation, the Eastern Region Development Board, and the Eastern Region Development Corporation were made with some degree of preference to Ibos. It did appear that most of the loans made by these bodies were to Ibos, but that is not to say that this was necessarily improper. Ibos constitute two thirds of the population of the region and have a bigger share of financial and commercial responsibility than their numbers warrant.”
12. “That there should be modern streetlight in Onitsha, and not Calabar, was also quoted as example of discrimination; it proved however that Onitsha Urban District Council had financed this measure from their own resources.”
13. “The question of land was repeatedly raised, it being resented by the Efiks and Ibibios that the Igbos should acquire land at all in their territory while the methods by which it was obtained were also questioned. There is no doubt that on the Igbo Plateau there is insufficient land for the people and the Igbos are thrusting outwards where possible they acquire land and use it either for cultivation or building…..This is a matter which will require legislation sooner or later and it will be delicate to handle, but the economic process is in itself healthy and we had little sympathy with a witness who remarked that there is much undeveloped land in the district and he was anxious that it should not fall into the hand of the Igbos… We believe that Governments in Nigeria should be careful not to try to protect minorities by introducing measures that would restrict development....”
You are so desperate to publish a part of a report that was influenced by Zik and his Igbo gang in their desperation not to grant the demands of the minority ethnic groups.

I asked a simple question and you went off rail in your desperation to keep deceiving yourself.

The agitations and demand for the creation of Rivers State by the minorities led to the constitution of Henry Willinks commission on November 1956, a few years before independence (Igbo people will never say this because they want to blame Gowon and claim that Ikwerre STARTED DENYING Ibo AFTER THE WAR).

Would Ikwerre have represented at the Willinks commission if they considered themselves Igbo, when the commission was organized for and attended by representatives of minority groups? Which Igbo groups represented at the Willinks commission?

These ethnic minorities wanted to protect themselves from oppression, marginalisation and possible extermination of Ethnic Minority Groups in the then Eastern Region of Nigeria.

The report of Willink's Minority Commission which was greatly influenced by Igbo leaders, ruled out the creation of Rivers State and mischievously classified some of the groups as Ibo which led Ikwerre Chiefs in this picture to protest against the Commission's report August 28 1957.

Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Tranquill: 6:07pm On Dec 25, 2024
Musauzor:
5



You are demented. Fool . So you are telling us that the Adelekes of Osun State will come to contest for President Ohana Eze Ndi Ogbo because their mother is Igbo. Anyway, I'm waiting for you to commit suicide when an Igbo man from Rivers State emerges the National President of Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo on January 10, 2025. #Ikwerre is Igbo
My bingo dog sef is willing to be your president.

It is fat and eats very well and importantly, ready to serve.

Shameless desperados.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Cindypresh(f): 6:24pm On Dec 25, 2024
XXXOGBA:
I am not Igbo because I am not Igbo.
But you're Ikechukwu?? From umuudara?? How are you from Bini??
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Cindypresh(f): 6:24pm On Dec 25, 2024
XXXOGBA:
You never gree sey you be my love.

I fit learn from you too.
Is that why you're denying who you are??
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Sepukku: 6:28pm On Dec 25, 2024
numericalguy:
Leave Ikwere land alone. Why is that so hard for Igbo land grabbers to understand.


Must you people steal other people's land all the time?
Igbos went to Lagos and declared Lagos as no man's land even though they know it is some people's ancestral land
You people went to sabon gari in Kano and tried to steal Hausa land
Your people went to Calabar and declared it Biafra
You claim Kogi, Benue and Nassarawa are parts of Biafra

Why always Igbos trying to steal other people's land everywhere?
Point 1 For the record. I am not Igbo so all those accusations fall flat on their head.

Point 2. I study genealogy, linguistics and genetics as a past time.

Point 3. It is without a doubt that linguistic similarities, proximity basis and cultural ties ultimately point to a very high probability of genetic similarities with any two groups of people being studied.

It is my contention that the Ikwerre are an Igboid peoples who originally emanate from original source Igbo people and likely incorporated several other characteristics from neighboring groups that altered parts of their linguistics and culture.

Therefore the claim by Igbos that the Ikwerre are indeed an Igbo subgroup is not out of order.

You are allowed to self-determine or self-actualize but you cannot base that actualization on a bunch of lies.

Shikena!
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Shikena(m): 6:48pm On Dec 25, 2024
Chukwuma, it's ok to state that you are Igbo. There is nothing bad in it cool .

Sepukku:
Point 1 For the record. I am not Igbo so all those accusations fall flat on their head.

Point 2. I study genealogy, linguistics and genetics as a past time.

Point 3. It is without a doubt that linguistic similarities, proximity basis and cultural ties ultimately point to a very high probability of genetic similarities with any two groups of people being studied.

It is my contention that the Ikwerre are an Igboid peoples who originally emanate from original source Igbo people and likely incorporated several other characteristics from neighboring groups that altered parts of their linguistics and culture.

Therefore the claim by Igbos that the Ikwerre are indeed an Igbo subgroup is not out of order.

You are allowed to self-determine or self-actualize but you cannot base that actualization on a bunch of lies.

Shikena!
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Sepukku: 6:53pm On Dec 25, 2024
Shikena:
Chukwuma, it's ok to state that you are Igbo. There is nothing bad in it cool .
Yes because out of my entire write up that is the one point you zoned in on because of your internalized bigotry.

The audacity to assume that I am Igbo in a country with over 150 languages is outstanding but then again we have to deal with very low IQ people in this world so I get it.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by chrisxxx(m): 6:58pm On Dec 25, 2024
Sepukku:
Point 1 For the record. I am not Igbo so all those accusations fall flat on their head.

Point 2. I study genealogy, linguistics and genetics as a past time.

Point 3. It is without a doubt that linguistic similarities, proximity basis and cultural ties ultimately point to a very high probability of genetic similarities with any two groups of people being studied.

It is my contention that the Ikwerre are an Igboid peoples who originally emanate from original source Igbo people and likely incorporated several other characteristics from neighboring groups that altered parts of their linguistics and culture.

Therefore the claim by Igbos that the Ikwerre are indeed an Igbo subgroup is not out of order.

You are allowed to self-determine or self-actualize but you cannot base that actualization on a bunch of lies.

Shikena!
Your education is half baked. No real scientist conclude a hypothesis without subjecting his assumptions on bifocal test.
Have you considered that Igbos might actually be Ikwerre people? You think ikwerres are Igbos because Igbos have numbers?
What about if the reverse is the case?
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Sepukku: 7:08pm On Dec 25, 2024
chrisxxx:
Your education is half baked. No real scientist conclude a hypothesis without subjecting his assumptions on bifocal test.
This response is completely empty of logic so it will be ignored.

chrisxxx:
Have you considered that Igbos might actually be Ikwerre people? You think ikwerres are Igbos because Igbos have numbers?
What about if the reverse is the case?
The Igbo in terms of their larger geographical spread in the areas that identify as Igbo enclaves, would lend credence to the hypothesis or assertion that any surrounding groups in an around that vicinity that share cultural, linguistic and genetic ties and are likely off shoots of this larger source group. The smaller groups likely diverged via movements, in situ language adaptations and incorporations with other groups

The divergence of the Ikwerre language into an Igboid dialect also lends credence to the assertion that the original source language of the proto Ikwerre speakers was proto Igbo or a version of contemporary Igbo.

Therefore the probability of the Ikwerre being the original Proto igbo or contemporary igbo group is very low.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Staphylococcus: 7:09pm On Dec 25, 2024
chrisxxx:
Your education is half baked. No real scientist conclude a hypothesis without subjecting his assumptions on bifocal test.
Have you considered that Igbos might actually be Ikwerre people? You think ikwerres are Igbos because Igbos have numbers?
What about if the reverse is the case?
You are damn right.

Igbo's are Ikwerre's and not the other way round.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Stolen: 7:12pm On Dec 25, 2024
Shikena:
Chukwuma, it's ok to state that you are Igbo. There is nothing bad in it cool .
LOL, HE IS IGBO BECOS U DATCH HIM CHUKWUMA AND CHUKWUDI ABI?



U HAVE FORGOTTEN SO SOON, IKWERRE ANSWER THOSE NAMES? RETARDO! cool
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Sepukku: 7:15pm On Dec 25, 2024
Staphylococcus:
You are damn right.

Igbo's are Ikwerre's and not the other way round.
Highly unlikely. The larger group would be the "source" group if you are to look at it scientifically.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by Sepukku: 7:17pm On Dec 25, 2024
Stolen:
LOL, HE IS IGBO BECOS U DATCH HIM CHUKWUMA AND CHUKWUDI ABI?



U HAVE FORGOTTEN SO SOON, IKWERRE ANSWER THOSE NAMES? RETARDO! cool
Being that I am from the Southern part of Nigeria and the mixing that has been going on with several peoples in the south of Nigeria. I will claim my Igboness and many others probably do have some blood that is linked to so called Igbos.

So I claim the blood.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by chrisxxx(m): 7:21pm On Dec 25, 2024
Staphylococcus:
You are damn right.

Igbo's are Ikwerre's and not the other way round.
Ask any igbo man the igbo word for YES, it doesn't exist. Their language is incompetent.
Re: Ikwere Is Not Igbo - Ikwere Indigenes Say No To Ohaneze Ndigbo by XXXOGBA: 7:23pm On Dec 25, 2024
Cindypresh:
Is that why you're denying who you are??
I'm proudly of the great Ogba Ethnic Nationality.
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