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Gabrielshow24:
Your question is ambiguous.
And in the right context answers itself.

Exactly

Not to talk of the part that it is a deviation from the post (off point)

Dtruthspeaker:
See mad person dey find person wey go patronise him madness and stupidity

Lol....always resorting to insults when faced with logical questions that faults your reasoning.

Dtruthspeaker:
Moses killed to save another person which the Law recognises as a good and valid ground for killing which is the lawful grounds soldiers have for killing.

But, they must be within the Law which is why you see Isreal never attacked first, they only retaliated after first being recipients of attack

Was moses a soldier when he killed the Egyptian?

He was living in egypt, if what he did was legal then why did he run away...?

otipoju:
He said it clearly...that he was an anointed one.

Now in the game of power, it was a smart move. If David had killed Saul, he would have opened the karmic doors for others to kill him on the throne as well...and would have had the question of legitimacy.

Saul was no ordinary enemy. He was the King, and he was his father in law as well.

He was not an enemy soldier.

I have been in David's shoes. What you do is to wait it out. You don't kill your father in law.

Beautiful!

Don't forget also The Law, an eye for an eye, a kill, for a kill!

Gabrielshow24:
Your question is ambiguous.
And in the right context answers itself.

Yeah....it does answer itself. I asked that question to a comment that claims that modern isrealites wars are "within the law of God". Any war that results in the death of Christians can never be within the law of God.

Michael547:
In the wars going on between countries around the world today, who can we say is the "justified" enemy in the eyes of God?

I am not God but so I cant speak for God.

What I do know is that since the beginning of mankind, men have fought over perceived scarce natural.resources such as land, water, crude oul, gold reserves , grazing routes abd for even flimsy reasons such as women and power.

Kings have raised army of soldiers to defend against external aggression and take over territories for survival if need be.

Those are earthly doings and even God himself fought a war in heaven and used his soldiers of which the chief was archangel.Michael to cast out the Devil who went to war with God with a third of the angels.


It is the duty of a soldier to defend and also to attack and takingnof human lives comes with the job. Those lives are not perceived as innocent by either countries because it is what each soldier signed up for.

Even God sanctioned so many wars, It is murder of the innocent that God is against. Eg Jezebel murdered Naboth and God punished her. David Killed Uriah abd God punished him for it.

Brother, learn and stop arguing.

Even when Jesus return , he will go to war against the rebels at Armageddon and he will kill thousands.

Jesus mission was to carry out the salvific mission on the cross. He did not meed to physically fight anyone.

His second coming, he is coming as a king with an army.

Stop arguing brother

Dtruthspeaker:
Moses was covered under one of the exceptions of killing.

Which is...?

illicit:
Was moses a soldier when he killed the Egyptian?

He was living in egypt, if what he did was legal then why did he run away...?

A soldier is first a human and The Law is for humans, so Moses was well covered.

And he ran away because Egypt is not a God fearing and Law abiding nation which if it was, the case would never have been happening in the first place.

illicit:
Which is...?

Killing to save another. Even unjust and unlawful fake laws called constitutions recognise this

Section 32(3) of the Criminal Code provides,
Inter alia:
A person is not criminally responsible for an act or
omission if he does or omits to do the act… when the
act is reasonably necessary in order to resist actual
and unlawful violence threatened to him or to another person in his presence

otipoju:
I am not God but so I xant speak for God.

What I do know is that since the beginning of mankind, men have fought over perceived scarce natural.resources such as land, water, crude oul, gold reserves , grazing routes abd for even flimsy reasons such as women and power.

Kings have raised army of soldiers to defend against external aggression and take over territories for survival if need be.

Those are earthly doings and even God himself fought a war in heaven and used his soldiers of which the chief was archangel.Michael to cast out the Devil who went to war with God with a third of the angels.


It is the duty of a soldier to defend and also to attack and takingnof human lives comes with the job. Those lives are not perceived as innocent by either countries because it is what each soldier signed up for.

Even God sanctioned so many wars, It is murder of the innocent that God is against. Eg Jezebel murdered Naboth and God punished her. David Killed Uriah abd God punished him for it.

Brother, learn and stop arguing.

Oga...I'm happy you you've agreed that what we call an "enemy" in war today is based on individual countries perception and had nothing to do with God.

Do wars fought today spare the lives of Christians in either countries? Do God permit his faithful worshippers to kill each other in wars?

Michael547:
Oga...I'm happy you you've agreed that what we call an "enemy" in war today is based on individual countries perception and had nothing to do with God.

Do wars fought today spare the lives of Christians in either countries? Do God permit his faithful worshippers to kill each other in wars?

Read the entire thing i wrote. You will find your answers there.

God sef na warrior.

The question is if proffessional soldiers are guilty of taking human lives. The answer is no and I've articulated my reasons for saying so. That killing in a war and murder are two different things.

Even military ethos condemn killing of an unarmed soldier who has surrendered.

otipoju:
Read the entire thing i wrote. You will find your answers there.

God sef na warrior.

Oga does God approve wars that makes his faithful worshippers to kill each other? Yes or no?

Michael547:
Oga does God approve wars that makes his faithful worshippers to kill each other? Yes or no?

See as him dey ask like sey I be him boy boy.
Why should I answer you. You dey feed me abi you go give me money. Yi wo soun ojare.

Park well.

Do human beings write a letter to God asking for permission to fight? Abi which kain mumu question you dey ask so?

Michael547:
Oga does God approve wars that makes his faithful worshippers to kill each other? Yes or no?

Context is required but generally, No!
One party must be in the wrong and the other must be in the right!

Gabrielshow24:
Context is required but generally, No!
One party must be in the wrong and the other must be in the right!

Both parties always believe that they are in the right. The truth is in the middle.

Eben in heaven there was war. God went to war against Satan who wanted to usurp him from the throne.

One third of thevangekscwere cast out of heaven by God's soldiers led by Archangel Michael.

otipoju:
...Stop arguing brother

You go argue tire. You never see mad person

otipoju:
He said it clearly...that he was an anointed one.

But this so called ANOINTED ONE wanted to kill David nah!

otipoju:
Read the entire thing i wrote. You will find your answers there.

God sef na warrior.

The question is if proffessional soldiers are guilty of taking human lives. The answer is no and I've articulated my reasons for saying so. That killing in a war and murder are two different things.

Even military ethos condemn killing of an unarmed soldier who has surrendered.

In the Face of the laws of the country, the answer is no. But does God approve wars today that results in the oppression of people and the death of Christians, the answer is no. Any soldier involved in that is committing a sin.

Gabrielshow24:
Context is required but generally, No!
One party must be in the wrong and the other must be in the right!

In what context can true worshippers of God be wrong to warrant death in wars today?

Michael547:
In the Face of the laws of the country, the answer is no. But does God approve wars today that results in the oppression of people and the death of Christians, the answer is no. Any soldier involved in that is committing a sin.

He doesn't know that there are many so called ANOINTED ONES among the soldiers fighting and killing one another today even though such is against the COMMANDMENT of Christ! John 13:34-35

otipoju:
See as him dey ask like sey I be him boy boy.
Why should I answer you. You dey feed me abi you go give me money. Yi wo soun ojare.

Park well.

Do human beings write a letter to God asking for permission to fight? Abi which kain mumu question you dey ask so?

🤣🤣🤣shebi you've been quoting bible since na...no be bible question I dey ask you so?
God dey approve war wey dey make him worshippers fight each other? Yes or no sir?

Dtruthspeaker:
Killing to save another. Even unjust and unlawful fake laws called constitutions recognise this

Section 32(3) of the Criminal Code provides,
Inter alia:
A person is not criminally responsible for an act or
omission if he does or omits to do the act… when the
act is reasonably necessary in order to resist actual
and unlawful violence threatened to him or to another person in his presence

Bro are you actually quoting Nigerian criminal code for a crime that was committed in Egypt before Nigeria was even colonized by Britain?


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Michael547:
In the Face of the laws of the country, the answer is no. But does God approve wars today that results in the oppression of people and the death of Christians, the answer is no. Any soldier involved in that is committing a sin.

Be careful when you claim to speak on God's behalf. Human beings compete for perceived scarce resources for survival.The lion kills the sheep to eat. Is the lion evil.

Jews, Christians and moslems have killed millions in God's name.

Dtruthspeaker:
A soldier is first a human and The Law is for humans, so Moses was well covered.

And he ran away because Egypt is not a God fearing and Law abiding nation which if it was, the case would never have been happening in the first place.

Which law did they operate in that Egypt where the crime was committed...?

Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣shebi you've been quoting bible since na...no be bible question I dey ask you so?
God dey approve war wey dey make him worshippers fight each other? Yes or no sir?

He thought since servants of God fought wars in Bible times there's nothing wrong today to engage in wars even when it means killing your fellow worshipers! John 13:34-35

Michael547:
Lol....always resorting to insults when faced with logical questions that faults your reasoning.

See another person has said you ask stupid questions

"Abi which kain mumu question you dey ask so?"

So, you bring insalts on yourself

MaxInDHouse:
He thought since servants of God fought wars in Bible times there's nothing wrong today to engage in wars even when it means killing your fellow worshipers! John 13:34-35

It is not ideal. But it is what it is.

God sef no gree for Satan when Satan wan overthrow am for heaven. He went to war.

Go and read about Jesus second coming. He is coming with an army to do battle at Armageddon. Deadi body go surplus.

otipoju:
Be careful when you claim to speak on God's behalf. Human beings compete for perceived scarce resources for survival.The lion kills the sheep to eat. Is the lion evil.

Who is the Lion among God's servants and who are the sheep?

From my understanding Christ Jesus is the LION from the tribe of Judah and all disciples are his SHEEP.

So who are the lions that could kill Jesus' sheep without incurring bloodguilt?

otipoju:
It is not ideal. But it is what it is.
God sef no gree for Satan when Satan wan overthrow am for heaven. He went to war.

LGo and read about Jesus second coming. He is coming with an army to do battle at Armageddon. Deadi body go surplus.

Including the dead bodies of his precious sheep, shey?

Michael547:
In what context can true worshippers of God be wrong to warrant death in wars today?

You act as though we are not subject to physical laws!

Christians are taught to follow peace with all men.

If all options of peace cannot resolve the matter then the last result is war!

And if it results in war obviously it shows one party has refused settlement and reconciliation.

So it's subject to context and specificity!
And if you generalize then you commit the fallacy of accidents

illicit:
Which law did they operate in that Egypt where the crime was committed...?

Leave that guy ojare. People like him are unable to really reason.

A whole Egypt na him some body talk sey no get laws.

Country wey get King and prison. One of the most ancient civilizations no get law.

Why moses come run, if he was not wanted by the Laws of Egypt.

illicit:
Which law did they operate in that Egypt where the crime was committed...?

I don't understand, what you have in mind.

Hope you know no matter the law (legal) Egypt"s king may administer or any king may uphold, God's Law (Natural Law) is above them and rules them and their land.

And all Laws and Rights come from God's Law called Natural Law.

So, I do not understand your question because Egypt's legal commands are not relevant here especially as they even commanded the evil ofracism, inslavery of a fellow human and murder of children as a law.

Bet, you never heard
"An unjust law, is no Law" and it is lawful to disobey an unjust law, which is why you saw God blessed the Israelite nurses who disobeyed Pharoah and his legalness.