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Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 12:51pm On Dec 29, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
You act as though we are not subject to physical laws!

Christians are taught to follow peace with all men.

If all options of peace cannot resolve the matter then the last result is war!

And if it results in war obviously it shows one party has refused settlement and reconciliation.

So it's subject to context and specificity!
And if you generalize then you commit the fallacy of accidents
Do you have any example of true worshippers of God killing each other in war?

Do you have examples of Christians seeking peace with one another and eventually killing one another when there was no compromise?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 12:52pm On Dec 29, 2024
otipoju:
Be careful when you claim to speak on God's behalf. Human beings compete for perceived scarce resources for survival.The lion kills the sheep to eat. Is the lion evil.

Jews, Christians and moslems have killed millions in God's name.
Have true Christians killed each other in God's name? If yes, cite an example.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by otipoju(m): 12:53pm On Dec 29, 2024
Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣shebi you've been quoting bible since na...no be bible question I dey ask you so?
God dey approve war wey dey make him worshippers fight each other? Yes or no sir?
Does his worshippers go to ask God for permission before they start fighting each other? Yes or No.

If yes, present one instance.

If you can't. Go back and re-read.

Human beings fight over perceived scarce resources. One attacks one defends. This wet work is done by people called soldiers who have signed up for this.

What each soldier worships becomes irrelevant in this. It's a game of survival that God does not lay blame on each soldier for because they are at the mercy of their commander and will be killed for disobeying orders.

That is the stark reality of the life of a soldier and God cmwho sanctioned wars differentiates between killing and murder of an innocent.

I know you argument is to say God worshippers are permitted to war against no God worshippers...but hey God raised Nebuchadnezzer abd Cyrus who were not worshippers of God to wage war against the Israelites.

The problem with you is that you don't like the sime short differentiation between killing and murder so you are complexing the whole matter yourself .
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 12:53pm On Dec 29, 2024
Michael547:
Do you have any example of true worshippers of God killing each other in war?
The question is vague.
"True" is subjective in human context.
As it is very evident in this thread through various christian sects.

If for instance J.W. participated in a war with the Mormons both parties will always consider themselves true🤷🏾‍♂️.

Do you see how vague your question is?
Or are you not familiar with the war of the churches in ancient England?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 12:55pm On Dec 29, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
The question is vague.
"True" is subjective in human context.
As it is very evident in this thread through various christian sects.

If for instance J.W. participated in a war with the Mormons both parties will always consider themselves true🤷🏾‍♂️.

Do you see how vague your question is?
Or are you not familiar with the war of the churches in ancient England?
So are you saying that it is ok for Mormons who claim to be Christians to fight JWs who claim to be Christians?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 12:56pm On Dec 29, 2024
otipoju:
Does his worshippers go to ask God for permission before they start fighting each other? Yes or No.
Is it right for God's worshippers to fight each other whether they ask for his permissions or not?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 12:56pm On Dec 29, 2024
Or you seem to forget so easily with the Islamic jihad?
When they are asked what do they say?
Don't they call themselves true followers of God!!!

But in the context of christians we are taught to adopt peace!!!

So in ideality, no christian sect will go to war against another christian sect!
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 1:02pm On Dec 29, 2024
otipoju:
Leave that guy ojare. People like him are unable to really reason.

A whole Egypt na him some body talk sey no get laws.

Country wey get King and prison. One of the most ancient civilizations no get law.

Why moses come run, if he was not wanted by the Laws of Egypt.
So because they get king and prison, therefore, dem dey above Law?

Then why una dey complain about Tinubu and him system of rule, since himself be king and him get prison and law?

Why una dey judiciary to dey talk say wetin the king and e men dey do, dey unlawfull?

See why God no dey put Hand for una matter! Datna why e good wetin dey happen to una wia police/army fit keep una for prison pass 24 to pass 30days despite all the talk of a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty, Law.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by otipoju(m): 1:03pm On Dec 29, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Or you seem to forget so easily with the Islamic jihad?
When they are asked what do they say?
Don't they call themselves true followers of God!!!

But in the context of christians we are taught to adopt peace!!!

So in ideality, no christian sect will go to war against another christian sect!
Then you know nothing about church history.

Google Martin Luther the german priest, Ulrich Zwingli, the Heugenots and the protestant reformation
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 1:04pm On Dec 29, 2024
Michael547:
So are you saying that it is ok for Mormons who claim to be Christians to fight JWs who claim to be Christians?
Bordering on the hypothetical is fruitless.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 1:05pm On Dec 29, 2024
otipoju:
Then you know nothing about church history.

Google Martin Luther the german priest, Ulrich Zwingli, the Heugenots and the protestant reformation
"Ideality"

you can Google and look it up!
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by illicit(m): 1:05pm On Dec 29, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
I don't understand, what you have in mind.

Hope you know no matter the law (legal) Egypt"s king may administer or any king may uphold, God's Law (Natural Law) is above them and rules them and their land.

And all Laws and Rights come from God's Law called Natural Law.

So, I do not understand your question because Egypt's legal commands are not relevant here especially as they even commanded the evil ofracism, inslavery of a fellow human and murder of children as a law.

Bet, you never heard
"An unjust law, is no Law" and it is lawful to disobey an unjust law, which is why you saw God blessed the Israelite nurses who disobeyed Pharoah and his legalness.
Are you high or something ni...

Which natural laws supersede any law... Go and kill somebody now

We will send you to go and meet God and face natural law

Nonsense

What are u even saying?

🥴
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:08pm On Dec 29, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Bordering on the hypothetical is fruitless.
Oga....can you point out a war where those who claim to be Christians in either countries have not slain each other?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 1:09pm On Dec 29, 2024
Michael547:
Oga....can you point out a war where those who claim to be Christians in either countries have not slain each other?
revisit and correct this!
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by otipoju(m): 1:09pm On Dec 29, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
So because they get king and prison, therefore, dem dey above Law?

Then why una dey complain about Tinubu and him system of rule, since himself be king and him get prison and law?

Why una dey judiciary to dey talk say wetin the king and e men dey do, dey unlawfull?

See why God no dey put Hand for una matter! Datna why e good wetin dey happen to una wia police/army fit keep una for prison pass 24 to pass 30days despite all the talk of a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty, Law.
You see how you dey contradict yourself.

You said Egypt had no laws. Which is a false statement. Your opinion of the law wether draconian or humane , is irrelevant.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 1:12pm On Dec 29, 2024
illicit:
Bro are you actually quoting Nigerian criminal code for a crime that was committed in Egypt before Nigeria was even colonized by Britain?
🤭
I quoted it to show you that every normal man is aware of that Natural Law that they even state it in their commands.

AI Overview
Egypt's self-defense laws allow an individual to use force to protect themselves or others in certain circumstances

AI overview
In the UK, self-defense is a complete defense to non-sexual offenses that involve the unlawful use of force. The law is based on a combination of common law and statute, and it allows people to use reasonable force in the following circumstances: To defend themselves or others

[b]There is no place in the world where God's Law (Natural Law) is not in Force
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 1:12pm On Dec 29, 2024
otipoju:
You see how you dey contradict yourself.

You said Egypt had no laws. Which is a false statement. Your opinion of the law wether draconian or humane , is irrelevant.
State where I said "Egypt had no law"
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by otipoju(m): 1:13pm On Dec 29, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
"Ideality"

you can Google and look it up!
"Ideality". What has that hot to do with the fact that Christian sects and denominations have gone to war against each other as evidenced in church history.

The catholic church persecuted the heugenots in France and most of them fled on boats to America.

Martin Luther the originator of the protestant movement himself persecuted other Christians like the anababtists that were against some of his beliefs.

Not to talk of men like Ulrich Zwingli. They all killed other Christians in the name of Christ. In fact Zwingli a protestant died in action in 1531 at the battle of Kappel while fighting catholics

@Michael547
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 1:16pm On Dec 29, 2024
illicit:
Are you high or something ni...

Which natural laws supersede any law... Go and kill somebody now

We will send you to go and meet God and face natural law

Nonsense

What are u even saying?

🥴
Does Natural Law say you can kill somebody?

Even your killing me for killing somebody else, is it not Natural Law Who Commanded it?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by otipoju(m): 1:18pm On Dec 29, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
State where I said "Egypt had no law"
Go back and read what you wrote about Moses .
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 1:22pm On Dec 29, 2024
See how supposed Christians hate God's Law called Natural Law, yet they say, they do not want to be condemned and go to hellfire.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 1:24pm On Dec 29, 2024
otipoju:
Go back and read what you wrote about Moses .
Publicly state where I said "Egypt had no law", if indeed it is True.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by otipoju(m): 1:30pm On Dec 29, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Publicly state where I said "Egypt had no law", if indeed it is True.
No wahala. Enjoy the rest of your day.

You like wahala pass trouble.

Ive stated my opinion. You have yours, we definitely will not come to any sort of agreement.

Stay blessed.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 1:34pm On Dec 29, 2024
otipoju:
"Ideality". What has that hot to do with the fact that Christian sects and denominations have gone to war against each other as evidenced in church history.

The catholic church persecuted the heugenots in France and most of them fled on boats to America.

Martin Luther the originator of the protestant movement himself persecuted other Christians like the anababtists that were against some of his beliefs.

Not to talk of men like Ulrich Zwingli. They all killed other Christians in the name of Christ. In fact Zwingli a protestant died in action in 1531 at the battle of Kappel while fighting catholics

@Michael547
Am not against your premise.
I have implied that to @Michael547.

You saying the logical implications of my statement is somewhat unnecessary.

The statement is self explanatory!
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 1:36pm On Dec 29, 2024
otipoju:
No wahala. Enjoy the rest of your day.

You like wahala pass trouble.

Ive stated my opinion. You have yours, we definitely will not come to any sort of agreement.

Stay blessed.
Bless you too
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by otipoju(m): 1:37pm On Dec 29, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Am not against your premise.
I have implied that to @Michael547.

You saying the logical implications of my statement is somewhat unnecessary.

The statement is self explanatory!
I think I mixed you guys up ojare. It is well.
Stay blessed.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:42pm On Dec 29, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
revisit and correct this!
Oga there is nothing to revisit in all your submissions....you cannot still prove that being a soldier and killing people is not a sin in the eyes of God due to the fact that one being a soldier today cannot avoid oppressing innocent people and killing people who claim to be genuine worshippers of God.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by illicit(m): 1:57pm On Dec 29, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
I quoted it to show you that every normal man is aware of that Natural Law that they even state it in their commands.

AI Overview
Egypt's self-defense laws allow an individual to use force to protect themselves or others in certain circumstances

AI overview
In the UK, self-defense is a complete defense to non-sexual offenses that involve the unlawful use of force. The law is based on a combination of common law and statute, and it allows people to use reasonable force in the following circumstances: To defend themselves or others

[b]There is no place in the world where God's Law (Natural Law) is not in Force
Bros

When u are sober, we can continue this...

Who was moses defending, himself or an israelite?

What are u saying nah
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 2:04pm On Dec 29, 2024
illicit:
Bros

When u are sober, we can continue this...

Who was moses defending, himself or an israelite?

What are u saying nah
Why are you twisting yourself sore?

Do you not already know that Moses was defending another?

Don't tell me that you do not see that the Law of self defence also includes defence of another.

In case you did not see it, see it

AI Overview
Egypt's self-defense laws allow an individual to use force to protect themselves or others in certain circumstances

AI overview
In the UK, self-defense is a complete defense to non-sexual offenses that involve the unlawful use of force. The law is based on a combination of common law and statute, and it allows people to use reasonable force in the following circumstances: To defend themselves or others

In Nigeria
Section 32(3) of the Criminal Code provides,
Inter alia:
A person is not criminally responsible for an act or
omission if he does or omits to do the act… when the
act is reasonably necessary in order to resist actual
and unlawful violence threatened to him or to another person in his presence

You don't have any valid thing to say and you are just grasping for air.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by illicit(m): 2:13pm On Dec 29, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Why are you twisting yourself sore?

Do you not already know that Moses was defending another?

Don't tell me that you do not see that the Law of self defence also includes defence of another.

In case you did not see it, see it

AI Overview
Egypt's self-defense laws allow an individual to use force to protect themselves or others in certain circumstances

AI overview
In the UK, self-defense is a complete defense to non-sexual offenses that involve the unlawful use of force. The law is based on a combination of common law and statute, and it allows people to use reasonable force in the following circumstances: To defend themselves or others

In Nigeria
Section 32(3) of the Criminal Code provides,
Inter alia:
A person is not criminally responsible for an act or
omission if he does or omits to do the act… when the
act is reasonably necessary in order to resist actual
and unlawful violence threatened to him or to another person in his presence

You don't have any valid thing to say and you are just grasping for air.
I cant believe this guy...
You are actually quoting Nigerian law for something that moses did, are u really serious right now?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 2:16pm On Dec 29, 2024
illicit:
I cant believe this guy...
You are actually quoting Nigerian law for something that moses did, are u really serious right now?
What kind of delusion is this?

Just say you don't have anything to say because people can see that I quoted the laws of both Egypt and Britain which you mentioned in addition to the Nigerian one to prove that Natural Law is everywhere.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by illicit(m): 2:18pm On Dec 29, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Just say you don't have anything to say because people can see that I quoted the laws of both Egypt and Britain which you mentioned in addition to the Nigerian one to prove that Natural Law is everywhere.
You don't seem to know the difference between your left and your right bro


Quoting britain and nigerian law for moses...

Are u kidding me
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