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Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 9:50pm On Dec 30, 2024
Kingsempires:
you have not yet answered my question; or is God going to send him angel to save you in this situation just like he did for Daniel undecided
Stop being mischievous....I have told you that self defense when necessary is different from joining the military and fighting for political interests. Oga which of the countries is God supporting In wars going on in the world today?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 9:54pm On Dec 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
He is hiding from the truth but after reading the comment of a living faith he confessed:



What else do you expect from someone whose conscience is judging him?

Of course you can't expect him to admit openly that he's not been speaking for faith in Christ Jesus! smiley
Are you my conscience?

That you know it's judging me?

Do you see how off-putting that is?

What truth am I hiding from?

Instead of you accept your ludicrous overgeneralization; you are saying am avoiding the truth.

What have I posited over and over again.
"The fallacy of accidents".

You commit this over and over again; it's becoming hypocritical!!!

A time back you said you had a logical reasoning to account for south Korea's mandatory military service which your original premise failed to account for!!!

Stop saying trash

I have said from the very beginning emphasizing on "ideality".

And I, unlike you, also alludes to the fact that reality is not always IDEAL!!!
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 9:57pm On Dec 30, 2024
Michael547:
Stop being mischievous....I have told you that self defense when necessary is different from joining the military and fighting for political interests. Oga which of the countries is God supporting In wars going on in the world today?
You can see the hypocrisy!!!

You can allow self defense but when an entire nation is threatened you draw the line on wars!!!

Is that not foolishness?

If you allude against war then you allude against self defense.

It's contradictory!!!
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:58pm On Dec 30, 2024
Michael547:
Stop being mischievous....I have told you that self defense when necessary is different from joining the military and fighting for political interests. Oga which of the countries is God supporting In wars going on in the world today?
Ask him if the thief came as an enemy sent to come and kill or just to make money the hard way?

Sometimes i often thank Jehovah's Witnesses for helping me to acquire godly wisdom at least i know the difference between a thief who would have stolen what he wanted without having anything to do with me physically if he had the chance and a soldier ordered by some authority to attack me in the name of defending his country! smiley

Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:01pm On Dec 30, 2024
That's why I said earlier; you that set the standard must live by the standard.

If you want to be ideal then go all the way!!!
But pray against circumstances that will turn your ideality to reality.

But am sure as long as you live, your very standard will be tested😁!!!

May you not live to see war or forceful/mandatory conscription!!!
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:01pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
A time back you said you had a logical reasoning to account for south Korea's mandatory military service which your original premise failed to account for!!!
Surely you misunderstood me!

I said i can help you gain the logical reason why Jesus commanded his disciples not to raise weapons against anyone in the name of dispute or war.

What concerns me with faithless people fighting and killing their neighbours? smiley
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:04pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
That's why I said earlier; you that set the standard must live by the standard.

If you want to be ideal then go all the way!!!
But pray against circumstances that will turn your ideality to reality.

But am sure as long as you live, your very standard will be tested😁!!!

May you not live to see war or forceful/mandatory conscription!!!
That's why we need to build faith in what Christ taught not just claiming Christian without meditating on how to face the reality of what Jesus told his real disciples!

Matthew 10:34-39 smiley
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:05pm On Dec 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Surely you misunderstood me!

I said i can help you gain the logical reason why Jesus commanded his disciples not to raise weapons against anyone in the name of dispute or war.

What concerns me with faithless people fighting and killing their neighbours? smiley
Check the christian population of south Korea or perhaps they are not JWs so they are faithless? 🤨
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:07pm On Dec 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Surely you misunderstood me!

I said i can help you gain the logical reason why Jesus commanded his disciples not to raise weapons against anyone in the name of dispute or war.

What concerns me with faithless people fighting and killing their neighbours? smiley
Part of the conspicuous counters raised up against your premise is the simple fact that
"THE PRINCE OF PEACE RODE A HORSE INTO BATTLE".

There's no other defeating posit than this.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:08pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Check the christian population of south Korea or perhaps they are not JWs so they are faithless? 🤨
As long as they are not ready to abide by Jesus' command {John 15:12-15} they are not his friends he doesn't know them {Matthew 7:23} so i don't acknowledge them as my fellow believers in Christ! smiley
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:09pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
"THE PRINCE OF PEACE RODE A HORSE INTO BATTLE".
To kill his FAITHFUL FRIENDS right? cheesy
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:09pm On Dec 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
As long as they are not ready to abide by Jesus' command {John 15:12-15} they are not his friends he doesn't know them {Matthew 7:23} so i don't acknowledge them as my fellow believers in Christ! smiley
Let's say hypothetically; they obey Jesus' words and N.K. invades and wipes them off the map.

Tell me the spiritual benefits of this?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:11pm On Dec 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
To kill his FAITHFUL FRIENDS right? cheesy
Do you see your hypocrisy? 🤦
Who else do people kill in battle?🤷🏾‍♂️
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:13pm On Dec 30, 2024
I would have expected the prince of peace to turn the other cheek🤨.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:13pm On Dec 30, 2024
After all he is the prince of peace 👀
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 10:14pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
You can see the hypocrisy!!!

You can allow self defense but when an entire nation is threatened you draw the line on wars!!!

Is that not foolishness?

If you allude against war then you allude against self defense.

It's contradictory!!!
So in the wars between Russia and Ukraine and between isreal and Palestine, which of these countries is self defending and which is attacking?

Are these wars free from political selfish interests and motives?

Which of these countries self defense is justified by God?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:15pm On Dec 30, 2024
Yeah, I do remember Michael is your preexisting version of Jesus🤤.

Even Michael didn't hold back against Devil and his host🤕

Michael wasn't smiling🤧
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:18pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Tell me the spiritual benefits of this?
Do not be afraid of the things you are about to suffer. Look! The Devil will keep on throwing some of you into prison so that you may be fully put to the test, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Prove yourself faithful even to death, and I will give you the crown of life. Revelations 2:10

Let's see if you truly believe Jesus! smiley
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:18pm On Dec 30, 2024
Michael547:
So in the wars between Russia and Ukraine and between isreal and Palestine, which of these countries is self defending and which is attacking?

Are these wars free from political selfish interests and motives?
Are you this daft?

Don't you know human actions are motivated by myriad of conditions?

While still having elements of politics; you can't deny the underlying zeal for longevity of life(self defense).

And that most of the time is the major premise of battles.

You fight and lay down your life for what you love perhaps family, loved ones or just for the sake of your fundamental human rights.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:21pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Do you see your hypocrisy? 🤦
Who else do people kill in battle?🤷🏾‍♂️
Jesus said about faithless people:

"Moreover, bring these enemies of mine here who did not want me to become king over them and execute them in front of me.’” Luke 19:27

So it's those who don't agree with his rules that will be EXTERMINATED o! smiley
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:21pm On Dec 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Do not be afraid of the things you are about to suffer. Look! The Devil will keep on throwing some of you into prison so that you may be fully put to the test, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Prove yourself faithful even to death, and I will give you the crown of life. Revelations 2:10

Let's see if you truly believe Jesus! smiley
Jesus will be so happy to receive millions of people at heaven's gate🫠.

An entire Nation / generation wiped out🤤.

That'll be fun to see.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 10:22pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Are you this daft?

Don't you know human actions are motivated by myriad of conditions?

While still having elements of politics; you can't deny the underlying zeal for longevity of life(self defense).

And that most of the time is the major premise of battles.

You fight and lay down your life for what you love perhaps family, loved ones or just for the sake of your fundamental human rights.
So what are the elements of politics present in modern warfare today? Are those elements justified by God?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:23pm On Dec 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said about faithless people:

"Moreover, bring these enemies of mine here who did not want me to become king over them and execute them in front of me.’” Luke 19:27

So it's those who don't agree with his rules that will be EXTERMINATED o! smiley
"agree with his rules"
🤧Where have I heard that from?

Do you see how your conflations are embarrassing?

Who else do people exterminate?
Their friends or those against their "rules" 🤕
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:24pm On Dec 30, 2024
Michael547:
So what are the elements of politics present in modern warfare today? Are those elements justified by God?
Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar!!!
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Are you this daft?
Don't you know human actions are motivated by myriad of conditions? While still having elements of politics; you can't deny the underlying zeal for longevity of life(self defense). And that most of the time is the major premise of battles. You fight and lay down your life for what you love perhaps family, loved ones or just for the sake of your fundamental human rights.
Just say Jesus Christ is a bad commander because it's his command that his first century disciples obeyed to the cure which made Jews kill them like no man business.

So going by your opinion all of them were DAFT for taking orders from Jesus of Nazareth! smiley
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:26pm On Dec 30, 2024
At least Jesus is full of mercy yet he didn't spare his enemies 🤤 and ordered for their execution 🤔.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:26pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
"agree with his rules"
🤧Where have I heard that from?

Do you see how your conflations are embarrassing?

Who else do people faithless miscreants exterminate?
Their friends or those against their "rules" 🤕
People or Faithless miscreants? smiley
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:26pm On Dec 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Just say Jesus Christ is a bad commander because it's his command that his first century disciples obeyed to the cure which made Jews kill them like no man business.

So going by your opinion all of them were DAFT for taking orders from Jesus of Nazareth! smiley
It's your words not mine!!! 🤭
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:27pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
At least Jesus is full of mercy yet he didn't spare his enemies 🤤 and ordered for their execution 🤔.
I love this!

So he shouldn't have told you to spare your own enemies {Luke 6:27-38} right? cheesy
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:28pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
It's your words not mine!!! 🤭
No wahala at least you know where you belong now! cheesy
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 10:28pm On Dec 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
People or Faithless miscreants? smiley
Do you see the hypocrisy?

The same things you allude against were all done by the son of God. 🤕

He led a WAR against Satan and his host😁.

I don't see how you want to come out of this👀
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:31pm On Dec 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Do you see the hypocrisy?

The same things you allude against were all done by the son of God. 🤕

He led a WAR against Satan and his host😁.

I don't see how you want to come out of this👀
So who are the Satan and his hosts that are killed in Russia and Ukraine today?

Your so called fellow believers in Christ? cheesy
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