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Anatolia:
Your argument is not coherent. On one hand you said I am reasoning without reality and on another hand you are saying imagine Nigeria. You definitely are living in delulu land and need to comeback to reality.

Comprehension is the problem here, what I wrote was clear and concise enough! Go back to my original comment, anybody making the minimum wage in any country is not LIVING, such a person is just SURVIVING! Whether you're in 9ja or USA, if you earn the minimum, even the smallest of costs would cause you to stress!

abbey621:
Comprehension is the problem here, what I wrote was clear and concise enough! Go back to my original comment, anybody making the minimum wage in any country is not LIVING, such a person is just SURVIVING! Whether you're in 9ja or USA, if you earn the minimum, even the smallest of costs would cause you to stress!

Okay, there is no doubt anyone who is not a millionaire will be stressed. But stress has grades. The person chose to buy fruits which are optional. That same 32 dollars can get you one month worth of regular chicken for a single individual. This can be earned in 5 h. How much chicken can the Nigerian minimum wage of 5h afford and how long will it last?

Anatolia:
Okay, there is no doubt anyone who is not a millionaire will be stressed. But stress has grades. The person chose to buy fruits which are optional. That same 32 dollars can get you one month worth of regular chicken for a single individual. This can be earned in 5 h. How much chicken can the Nigerian minimum wage of 5h afford and how long will it last?

You're still missing the point, in Nigeria you can still rent a room for peanuts, abroad it would cost you an arm and a leg. You're focusing on one thing (food) rather than the entire picture (rent, food, taxes, utilities etc.). Let me paint a better picture for you, how can someone be earning over 2 million Naira per month in 9ja and still not be able to afford rent on a 2 bedroom flat? No be juju be that?

This is the situation minimum wage workers face in the USA, they earn the money but the cost no make sense. Give that man in 9ja one million per month and then ask him to pay 5 times the rent, 3 times the electricity bills and so on, that man will not be able to afford SHIN SHIN! So abeg all stress na stress, na until you find yourself in such situation you go know say no be only people in 9ja dey suffer!

The same problem exists globally: the 1%.

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abbey621:
You're still missing the point, in Nigeria you can still rent a room for peanuts, abroad it would cost you an arm and a leg. You're focusing on one thing (food) rather than the entire picture (rent, food, taxes, utilities etc.). Let me paint a better picture for you, how can someone be earning over 2 million Naira per month in 9ja and still not be able to afford rent on a 2 bedroom flat? No be juju be that?

This is the situation minimum wage workers face in the USA, they earn the money but the cost no make sense. Give that man in 9ja one million per month and then ask him to pay 5 times the rent, 3 times the electricity bills and so on, that man will not be able to afford SHIN SHIN! So abeg all stress na stress, na until you find yourself in such situation you go know say no be only people in 9ja dey suffer!

Bro, the USA is a land of opportunities. You can literally work three jobs. Cleaners drive cars that is how good things are. If you cannot afford basic things in the US na your fault. Nigeria even if you try your best, everything will stop frustrate you. Suffering pass suffering.

Anatolia:
Bro, the USA is a land of opportunities. You can literally work three jobs. Cleaners drive cars that is how good things are. If you cannot afford basic things in the US na your fault. Nigeria even if you try your best, everything will stop frustrate you. Suffering pass suffering.

Same Nigeria you have people making millions per month and they live better than some people in the USA. I've been living and working in the USA for 15 years, e be like say the movies you dey watch dey deceive you, the three jobs you mentioned, hope you saved money for health issues, back when I just got to the USA, one week working at the factroy I know wetin my body see and that was in a good economy o, the economy nowadays you go get luck if you have a full time job not to talk of 2 or 3 at the same time

Yes cleaners drive cars but can you pay car note? Most car purchase are financed as long as you have a job and no bad thing on your credit profile. Furthermore, you can buy a car but you fit pay car insurance? Imagine buying car for 8k and you're spending like $2k per year to maintain insurance on it.......I swear most of una don't really know what's going on

Maria96:
the poorest workers can afford to buy it. Its like one hour wage. In Nigeria how many people can buy egg of 200 naira now?

I'm not comparing.
Using 1hr wage to buy egg is very expensive.
Really, really expensive.
Free range 16 eggs large for my side no reach 4 pounds. That should be around 5 dollars.

abbey621:
Same Nigeria you have people making millions per month and they live better than some people in the USA. I've been living and working in the USA for 15 years, e be like say the movies you dey watch dey deceive you, the three jobs you mentioned, hope you saved money for health issues, back when I just got to the USA, one week working at the factroy I know wetin my body see and that was in a good economy o, the economy nowadays you go get luck if you have a full time job not to talk of 2 or 3 at the same time

Yes cleaners drive cars but can you pay car note? Most car purchase are financed as long as you have a job and no bad thing on your credit profile. Furthermore, you can buy a car but you fit pay car insurance? Imagine buying car for 8k and you're spending like $2k per year to maintain insurance on it.......I swear most of una don't really know what's going on

Bro, your comments show you are disconnected from the reality of Nigeria. You left Naija 15 years ago when things were still good in Naija. How many people Dey earn the millions you are talking about. The vast majority of people are earning 100 x less than that. In 2021, cleaners were paid 8k in Naija and they were still owed 6 months arrears in a public organization.

Anatolia:
Bro, your comments show you are disconnected from the reality of Nigeria. You left Naija 15 years ago when things were still good in Naija. How many people Dey earn the millions you are talking about. The vast majority of people are earning 100 x less than that. In 2021, cleaners were paid 8k in Naija and they were still owed 6 months arrears in a public organization.

The comparison came from you people always saying if you earn in dollars you are not stressed, so I said let's compare it to those making millions of Naira per month but are now exposed to the costs associated with living abroad such as high utilties and rent, would that person earning millions in 9ja be able to afford anything if his or her costs were like those abroad?

Reason am, na you no get empathy for those making minimum wage abroad claiming they have only themselves to blame, well same can be said of Nigerians making 70k or less per month, only person to blame na YOURSELF!

Finally, I left 9ja 15 years ago but I come home regularly at least every year and have numerous investments in 9ja, I know fully well of the reality on ground!

abbey621:
The comparison came from you people always saying if you earn in dollars you are not stressed, so I said let's compare it to those making millions of Naira per month but are now exposed to the costs associated with living abroad such as high utilties and rent, would that person earning millions in 9ja be able to afford anything if his or her costs were like those abroad?

Reason am, na you no get empathy for those making minimum wage abroad claiming they have only themselves to blame, well same can be said of Nigerians making 70k or less per month, only person to blame na YOURSELF!

Finally, I left 9ja 15 years ago but I come home regularly at least every year and have numerous investments in 9ja, I know fully well of the reality on ground!

From my comments, I agreed that you would be stressed no matter where you are but it is a different kind of stress in Naija. Naija case is an issue of survival, like you would not be able to feed. In America, there are food banks to help people who are hungry. Do you have such in Naija. There is section 8 housing in America, do you have such in Naija?

Anatolia:
From my comments, I agreed that you would be stressed no matter where you are but it is a different kind of stress in Naija. Naija case is an issue of survival, like you would not be able to feed. In America, there are food banks to help people who are hungry. Do you have such in Naija. There is section 8 housing in America, do you have such in Naija?

So are you saying going to food banks and living in section 8 in a country that's the most powerful in the world is considered LIVING? I understand 9ja has conditioned most of una to think in terms of extremes but my friend that is not LIVING! Let me also surprise you, food banks are not everywhere and if you have a job even a minimum wage one you might still not qualify for section 8 housing.

For people that are citizens over here, living in section 8 is STRESSFUL LIVING, it might not conform to your definition based on many things you've seen as a Nigerian but to the average American, it is simply BULLSHIT! hat's like saying you're happy staying in wood kios near the swamp in Lagos or in neighborhoods where killers reside, DEY PLAY!

Many have kpai themselves because of that type of living, the people living in section 8 are considered GHETTO over here, that's not a reputation you want to emulate, survival or not, that's STRESSFUL!

Anatolia:
From my comments, I agreed that you would be stressed no matter where you are but it is a different kind of stress in Naija. Naija case is an issue of survival, like you would not be able to feed. In America, there are food banks to help people who are hungry. Do you have such in Naija. There is section 8 housing in America, do you have such in Naija?

I think Hollywood has damaged people perception. Let me tell you , people who live on a minimum wage anywhere in the world in the world aren’t living! Doesn’t matter where you are. Also, food banks are not littered everywhere in the US, and the rarest of cases where you have one, u can only get veg oil, some eggs if lucky, soap, oat, milk sometimes . And who pray to live in section 8 housing? Do you pray such for ur family? You’re talking in the extreme base on thr kind poverty that have wrecked our mind as Nigerian. Anyone who depend on section 8 housing can as well kpai himself cuz he is in for some shit that can damage a sane mind .

GboyegaD:
How many Nigerians do you know in the US doing such jobs? Those who start a CNA, how many mashes that their final career destination?

Learn to reason properly before you write.

No Nigerian does such in the US. No Nigerian work in restaurant in the US. Even students on F1 visa get paid minimum of $200,000 per hour. While I know you have to work hard to be successful anywhere in the world, US rewards twice as effort u put in.

maidstone:
Oloriburuku

Why do u call me that? Most of you just don’t want us to know how much u earn over there. Some of you earn way over $10million dolllars per month but will come on the internet to argue about $32 grocery. Do u want them to also give u grocery for free? They give u visa, give u free accommodation abroad, free healthcare, free tuition, salary above $10M every month still you’re not grateful.

Alakoriomo:
No Nigerian does such in the US. No Nigerian work in restaurant in the US. Even students on F1 visa get paid minimum of $200,000 per hour. While I know you have to work hard to be successful anywhere in the world, US rewards twice as effort u put in.

You can choose to twist what I said to suit your narrative nonetheless, my question remains what proportion of Nigerians do those jobs you listed? There is no shame in doing such as some people started from such jobs, it is part of their story and not their final destination.

GboyegaD:
You can choose to twist what I said to suit your narrative nonetheless, my question remains what proportion of Nigerians do those jobs you listed? There is no shame in doing such as some people started from such jobs, it is part of their story and not their final destination.

Very senseless APC guy

Alakoriomo:
I think Hollywood has damaged people perception. Let me tell you , people who live on a minimum wage anywhere in the world in the world aren’t living! Doesn’t matter where you are. Also, food banks are not littered everywhere in the US, and the rarest of cases where you have one, u can only get veg oil, some eggs if lucky, soap, oat, milk sometimes . And who pray to live in section 8 housing? Do you pray such for ur family? You’re talking in the extreme base on thr kind poverty that have wrecked our mind as Nigerian. Anyone who depend on section 8 housing can as well kpai himself cuz he is in for some shit that can damage a sane mind .

Like I said earlier on, you are disconnected from reality. You imagine an ideal world where all things are good. Whether you like I or not staying in a government provided housing or having food banks make a lot of difference for people who would otherwise steal, kill or beg to eat.

Anatolia:
Bro, you are reasoning with emotions not logic. Americans can afford rent, housing, health with less than 100 dollars. What can a Nigerian salary afford the average Nigerian?

$100 is roughly #150,000. A guy earning that on a monthly basis will survive properly in Nigeria in terms of rent, food and clothing

GboyegaD:
You can choose to twist what I said to suit your narrative nonetheless, my question remains what proportion of Nigerians do those jobs you listed? There is no shame in doing such as some people started from such jobs, it is part of their story and not their final destination.

He's an APC bot trying to justify what's going on currently in Nigeria.

Obaaderemi2:
He's an APC bot trying to justify what's going on currently in Nigeria.

Thanks for clarifying.