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Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by Bluntemperor: 6:44pm On Jan 08, 2025
Namaster:
The Russia-Ukraine war is one war where I can say with confidence that BOTH sides are right.

Ukraine is right to want to protect themselves from Russia and Putin by joining NATO.

Putin is right for NOT wanting anymore NATO bases surrounding his country.

I sympathise with BOTH sides and think both sides are waging a JUST war.

Most people who support Ukraine do so because Ukraine is the clear UNDERDOG while Russia is the POWERFUL aggressor.

Ukraine will forever REGRET the decision to RELINQUISH their Nuclear Warheads.
But is it right for Putin to now put a Nuclear -War-Head in Belarus - another Close Labour that is so close to Ukraine?
Is that fair to Ukraine and Others,who are in NATO alliance?
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by Dream25: 6:47pm On Jan 08, 2025
Flangelo12:
Every nation should learn from this.
I don't know why you guys keep talking about warhead when Ukraine control none in the first place.. It's Russia warhead and the source code and everything is in Moscow..
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by TenQ: 6:47pm On Jan 08, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Which of the Republic inherited the financial obligations and debt of the Union after the USSR was dissolved?
In December 1991, agreements allocated 61.34% of the debt to Russia and 16.37% to Ukraine, with other republics sharing the remainder
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by IamPlato(m): 6:48pm On Jan 08, 2025
God1000:
He's a friend of Putin, Americans voted for an idiot the second time, let the drama continue


I remember people calling me western asslicker for opposing the invasion of Ukraine, the same people later labelled me a terrorist sympathizer for speaking out against the genocide in Gaza, now they have turned around again to support this madman, calling me a Muslim and gay for opposing trump and his gang of criminals

It's always good to stand for the truth and what is right.

I want Russia-Ukraine war to end as soon as possible, Putin should withdraw his troops from Ukraine and Ukraine on the other hand should stay away from NATO
you are possibly the biggest foool on nairaland.

If you usually shut up people would have assumed you had a working brain
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by sleekman(m): 6:48pm On Jan 08, 2025
Ukraine never relinquished nuclear weapons. It was never in their control. Russia controlled the weapons and it was Russia that took it back when Ukraine sought independence.
Namaster:
The Russia-Ukraine war is one war where I can say with confidence that BOTH sides are right.

Ukraine is right to want to protect themselves from Russia and Putin by joining NATO.

Putin is right for NOT wanting anymore NATO bases surrounding his country.

I sympathise with BOTH sides and think both sides are waging a JUST war.

Most people who support Ukraine do so because Ukraine is the clear UNDERDOG while Russia is the POWERFUL aggressor.

Ukraine will forever REGRET the decision to RELINQUISH their Nuclear Warheads.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by Mj4199(m): 6:49pm On Jan 08, 2025
TenQ:
Perfectly said!

Unfortunately, the problem isn't Ukraine but
1. Russia who invaded Ukraine in 2014 and took Cremia. Up till this , no one in Ukraine wanted to join NATO
2. USA, who used coercive force to make Ukraine give up her Nuclear arsenal with a promise to protect her from external aggression with the Budapest Accord. Unfortunately, the two guarantees for the agreement failed.
3. United Nations, who pretended that Cremia was not militarily occupied in 2014 by Putin. If the whole world had prevented this, the new invasion would not have happened.



Now , Finland and Sweden have joined NATO because of the aggressive behaviours of Russia. What excuse remains for Ukraine.

Solution:
If Ukraine will not join NATO, she must be allowed to "re-aquire" her Nuclear arsenal and not only this, to build it to its former size.

And no one should complain of Nuclear proliferation.

And after that, Ukraine may by the use of force re-aquire her lost territories from Putin!
You people will just go to Google and get information, ask yourself what really happened before Russia annexed cremia in 2014. Do you know how the Russian speaking part of Ukraine were treated and abused? Even how American installed the so called puppets called Ukrainian president? Asked and learn
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by uunwanaobong3: 6:51pm On Jan 08, 2025
I PITY THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE, THEY DIED FOR NOTHING BECAUSE OF THE FOOLISHNESS OF THEIR BOYISH slowpoke LEADER ZELENSKY WHO ALLOW HIS COUNTRY TO BE USED AS A FOOTBALL FIELD FOR TWO EPL TEAMS.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 6:51pm On Jan 08, 2025
TenQ:
In December 1991, agreements allocated 61.34% of the debt to Russia and 16.37% to Ukraine, with other republics sharing the remainder
Source?
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by Believeintruth: 6:55pm On Jan 08, 2025
TenQ:
Part of the Budapest agreement was that in exchange for Ukraine giving up her Nuclear weapons, BOTH Russia and USA would protect Ukraine against ANY external aggression.

Unfortunately in 2014, Putin invaded Ukraine and took Cremia AND the whole world kept quiet.

Why should Ukraine not want a more solid Protection like joining NATO or let Ukraine build back her Nuclear Arsenal so that the equation be balanced again!

The question you should ask with respect to Ukraine is:
Who drew the first blood?
No you are trying to mix up everything. Did Ukraine give up her nuclear weapons? Also did US not violate it's own part of the agreement by moving in to Ukraine? This are the issues that led to the annexation of Crimea. The Crimean peninsula has for centuries been a staging post for war incussions into Russia. Armies have fought over that territory. Napoleon also used the crimea, the same with Hitler in WW2, so that area is strategic for Russian security.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by blackgold2018(m): 6:58pm On Jan 08, 2025
God1000:
He's a friend of Putin, Americans voted for an idiot the second time, let the drama continue


I remember people calling me western asslicker for opposing the invasion of Ukraine, the same people later labelled me a terrorist sympathizer for speaking out against the genocide in Gaza, now they have turned around again to support this madman, calling me a Muslim and gay for opposing trump and his gang of criminals

It's always good to stand for the truth and what is right.

I want Russia-Ukraine war to end as soon as possible, Putin should withdraw his troops from Ukraine and Ukraine on the other hand should stay away from NATO
Russia will never go just like that. Because of forcefully drawing in to war. They will want to end up annexing more territory from Ukraine.

Russia ego will be bruised if they just withdraw just like that. They re taking part of Ukraine with them.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by atobs4real(m): 7:00pm On Jan 08, 2025
What a kind heart!!!! The war should not have started. You are very correct Our Awaiting President in America.
God bless you Sir.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by SmartyPants(m): 7:04pm On Jan 08, 2025
Omoawoke:
I thought he said he would end the war as president elect


Politicians are same all over the world, a politician is like a man making promises to a girl just to taste her honey pot
Did you properly read and digest what he said?
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by Omoawoke(m): 7:04pm On Jan 08, 2025
SmartyPants:
Did you properly read and digest what he said?
No I did not
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by SmartyPants(m): 7:06pm On Jan 08, 2025
Omoawoke:
No I did not
Why? Read and digest better. You will understand what he said
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by uunwanaobong3: 7:06pm On Jan 08, 2025
Namaster:
The Russia-Ukraine war is one war where I can say with confidence that BOTH sides are right.

Ukraine is right to want to protect themselves from Russia and Putin by joining NATO.

Putin is right for NOT wanting anymore NATO bases surrounding his country.

I sympathise with BOTH sides and think both sides are waging a JUST war.

Most people who support Ukraine do so because Ukraine is the clear UNDERDOG while Russia is the POWERFUL aggressor.

Ukraine will forever REGRET the decision to RELINQUISH their Nuclear Warheads.
UKRAINE NEVER OWN NUCLEAR WARHEADS.... THE WARHEAD THAT WAS INSTALLED IN UKRAINE, BELARUS AND KAZAKHSTAN BELONGS TO SOVIET UNION AND RUSSIA WAS A SECESSION STATE AND CAPITAL OF THE FORMER SOVIET UNION, AND IT WAS GENERALLY AGREED BY ALL FORMER SOVIET UNION STATES THAT ALL WARHEADS SHOULD BE RETURNED TO THE MOTHER STATE RUSSIA IN ORDER TO FACILITY THE INDEPENDENCE OF OTHER STATES AWAY FROM SOVIET UNION.

IT WAS ALSO AGREED THAT ALL THE INDEPENDENT STATES WHICH CAME OUT OF SOVIET UNION MUST REMAIN NEUTRAL AND INDEPENDENT, NEITHER SHOULD THEY JOINED NATO NOR ANY MILITARY ORGANISATION. BUT SINCE THEN, ALMOST ALL FORMER SOVIET UNION STATES APART FROM UKRAINE AND GEORGIA HAVE JOINED NATO AND RUSSIA HAVE TO FIGHT HARD TO KEEP BOTH UKRAINE AND GEORGIA AWAY FROM NATO...... BEFORE YOU JUDGE PUTIN, ASKED YOURSELF, IF YOU WERE PUTIN WHAT WILL YOU DO? FOLD YOUR HAND AND WATCH NATO SURROUND YOU? THEN USED YOUR NEIGHBORS FIGHT YOU?
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 7:10pm On Jan 08, 2025
Mj4199:
You people will just go to Google and get information, ask yourself what really happened before Russia annexed cremia in 2014. Do you know how the Russian speaking part of Ukraine were treated and abused? Even how American installed the so called puppets called Ukrainian president? Asked and learn
Dude is a copy and paste merchant.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by TenQ: 7:12pm On Jan 08, 2025
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by Truvelisback(m): 7:12pm On Jan 08, 2025
MadamVanessa:
shocked


The best is still Donald Trump. Love him to pieces.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by Codes151(m): 7:13pm On Jan 08, 2025
michroskrve:
You will be in. Your village discussing America issue
I Dey America!

Cow
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by TenQ: 7:13pm On Jan 08, 2025
Mj4199:
You people will just go to Google and get information, ask yourself what really happened before Russia annexed cremia in 2014. Do you know how the Russian speaking part of Ukraine were treated and abused? Even how American installed the so called puppets called Ukrainian president? Asked and learn
Did Russia invade Ukraine and took Cremia because they wanted to join NATO?

It's a YES or NO answer please!
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 7:19pm On Jan 08, 2025
TenQ:
https://ridl.io/the-heavy-legacy-of-the-soviet-regime/
What happens to screenshot?
Screenshot and upload
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by TenQ: 7:24pm On Jan 08, 2025
Believeintruth:
No you are trying to mix up everything. Did Ukraine give up her nuclear weapons?
Yes! It was the main condition for recognition of Ukraine as a sovereign nation!

Believeintruth:
Also did US not violate it's own part of the agreement by moving in to Ukraine?
The Budapest agreement was an agreement to Protect Ukraine in an aftermath of external aggression in exchange for giving up their Nukes.

USA only violated her agreement when Cremia was invaded by Russia and they virtually looked away and did not come to the defence of Ukraine.

Believeintruth:
This are the issues that led to the annexation of Crimea. The Crimean peninsula has for centuries been a staging post for war incussions into Russia. Armies have fought over that territory. Napoleon also used the crimea, the same with Hitler in WW2, so that area is strategic for Russian security.
*The Cremian peninsula was Originally owned by the Tartars well before 1783 and not Russian if you want to go by history.
*The Cremian peninsula voted to be part of Ukraine at the breakup of the USSR.

Are these true or untrue statements.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by patrickmuf(m): 7:35pm On Jan 08, 2025
TenQ:
Perfectly said!

Unfortunately, the problem isn't Ukraine but
1. Russia who invaded Ukraine in 2014 and took Cremia. Up till this , no one in Ukraine wanted to join NATO
2. USA, who used coercive force to make Ukraine give up her Nuclear arsenal with a promise to protect her from external aggression with the Budapest Accord. Unfortunately, the two guarantees for the agreement failed.
3. United Nations, who pretended that Cremia was not militarily occupied in 2014 by Putin. If the whole world had prevented this, the new invasion would not have happened.



Now , Finland and Sweden have joined NATO because of the aggressive behaviours of Russia. What excuse remains for Ukraine.

Solution:
If Ukraine will not join NATO, she must be allowed to "re-aquire" her Nuclear arsenal and not only this, to build it to its former size.

And no one should complain of Nuclear proliferation.

And after that, Ukraine may by the use of force re-aquire her lost territories from Putin!
Will the US respect the sovereignty of Canada should they invite Russia and China to set up military bases there?
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by fuckJones(f): 7:38pm On Jan 08, 2025
YeribanzaGoat:
On the mandate of Donald Trump we stand!!!

Thunder fire Bola Tinubu and his foolish idiotic zombies.
obi will still not be president, over my dead body for him to be my president
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by TenQ: 7:39pm On Jan 08, 2025
Mj4199:
You people will just go to Google and get information, ask yourself what really happened before Russia annexed cremia in 2014. Do you know how the Russian speaking part of Ukraine were treated and abused? Even how American installed the so called puppets called Ukrainian president? Asked and learn
Just thinking and ask yourself some basic questions.

Let us assume you are 100% correct that USA meddled with Ukrainian affairs

1. Is Ukraine a sovereign nation?
2. Did Ukraine mistreat Russians in Russia?
3. Did America installed a puppet government in Russia?


Do you think Nigeria has the right to fight Benin Republic because the ethnic Yoruba people of Benin Republic are marginalized?

Do you think Nigeria has the right to fight Chad Republic and Niger Republic because the ethnic Hausa people of Benin Republic are marginalized?


1. Unfortunately mistreatment of Ethnic Russians was NOT the reason Putin gave for Invading Cremia! If you can find a source where Putin himself directly alluded to this I would be glad
2. Unfortunately too, the mistreatment of Ethnic Russians was NOT the reason Putin gave for Invading Ukraine! If you can find a source where Putin himself directly alluded to this I would be glad

The Truth of the matter was that both wars were Punitive in nature and for asset acquisition for Ukrainians fraternising more with the West rather than with Russia.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by YeribanzaGoat(f): 7:43pm On Jan 08, 2025
fuckJones:
obi will still not be president, over my dead body for him to be my president
Na kpai you don kpai finish be that.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by TenQ: 7:44pm On Jan 08, 2025
patrickmuf:
Will the US respect the sovereignty of Canada should they invite Russia and China to set up military bases there?
1. Prior to 2014, did Ukrainians think of joining NATO?
2. When Cremia was taken, who protected or defended Ukraine.
3. You think Ukraine shouldn't defend or protect herself from external aggression?

Can you show me any direct evidence from Putin that the reason he annexed Crimea was because Ukraine wanted to join NATO?
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by Vicotex(m): 7:44pm On Jan 08, 2025
Namaster:
The Russia-Ukraine war is one war where I can say with confidence that BOTH sides are right.

Ukraine is right to want to protect themselves from Russia and Putin by joining NATO.

Putin is right for NOT wanting anymore NATO bases surrounding his country.

I sympathise with BOTH sides and think both sides are waging a JUST war.

Most people who support Ukraine do so because Ukraine is the clear UNDERDOG while Russia is the POWERFUL aggressor.

Ukraine will forever REGRET the decision to RELINQUISH their Nuclear Warheads.
The nukes were never theirs, Russia is the Heir to USSR, thats why it has a permanent member seat at the UN council.
even if the nukes were still in ukraine, they would be useless because they cant use them because they recieve commands from russia.
Make una dey do findings sometimes before una go come online dey spew false narratives wey una hear from Western media outlets
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by Mccullum: 7:46pm On Jan 08, 2025
Biden just acted foolishly with his old age.

Trump got it right on this.

It's foolishness of the highest order.
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by TenQ: 7:47pm On Jan 08, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
What happens to screenshot?
Screenshot and upload

Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by patrickmuf(m): 7:47pm On Jan 08, 2025
TenQ:
1. Prior to 2014, did Ukrainians think of joining NATO?
2. When Cremia was taken, who protected or defended Ukraine.
3. You think Ukraine shouldn't defend or protect itself from external aggression?

Can you show me any direct evidence from Putin that the reason he annexed Crimea was because Ukraine wanted to join NATO?
The West sponsored a coup that ousted then Ukrainian president Yanukovych, who was pro-Russia, and then the issue of the attack on Lugansk and Donetsk people, who are majority Russian speaking for seeking independence from Ukraine...
Re: Trump Expresses Sympathy For Russia's Opposition To Ukraine's NATO Accession by TenQ: 7:51pm On Jan 08, 2025
Vicotex:
The nukes were never theirs, Russia is the Heir to USSR, thats why it has a permanent member seat at the UN council.
even if the nukes were still in ukraine, they would be useless because they cant use them because they recieve commands from russia.
Make una dey do findings sometimes before una go come online dey spew false narratives wey una hear from Western media outlets
You give the impression as if
1. The only scientists and engineers that developed USSRs nuclear arsenal were only Russians
2. The only spys that stole the blueprint of nuclear weapons from Britain were only Russians

Are these assumptions true?
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