₦airaland Forum

EmperorCaesar:


Dreamer!

When you talk about secession, you only consider the major tribes and prolly those ethnic groups with a fairly huge population and land to themselves.

You dont even worry about gwari, Jukuns, Egede, Igala and the other small groups(around 240) that do not even have the land and resources to survive on their own. How do you want them to cope? Thats insensitive


He should rest abeg. The world is bigger than Yoruba, Hausa and that one

Wetin concern Igboho with Gwari. Every Malam with him kettle. Before Amalgamation, we used to to have the Northern and southern protectorate and the Lagos whatever. Everybody was living their life until British started their nonsense and bringing everybody together. Its this tax bill that will start the restructuring, let every state generate money and spend it to develop their states.

EmperorCaesar:


Dreamer!

When you talk about secession, you only consider the major tribes and prolly those ethnic groups with a fairly huge population and land to themselves.

You dont even worry about gwari, Jukuns, Egede, Igala and the other small groups(around 240) that do not even have the land and resources to survive on their own. How do you want them to cope? Thats insensitive


He should rest abeg. The world is bigger than Yoruba, Hausa and that one

The minorities will fare better by joining any of the major tribes that they have close cultural and social ties with. It is better to have one big majority to contend with, than to have three majorities to content with.

For example, if Gwari people were to join Hausas in a new country, they could make the case that every 3rd president should come from their tribe. In Nigeria, when some of the major tribes are still waiting for their turn, what chance do they have?

If Nigeria can work, fine. But if some people feel it is not working the way they like, then they have every right to leave and every prospect of success on their own or with their co-leavers. Life is meant to be simple.

I refuse to come down to your level.

Believeintruth:
Try and have sense. Igbos did not create any law that abolished secession. During the Lancaster independence discussions, the british gave as a precondition of independence that the borders of colonial Nigeria must not be touched, Awo, Zik and Sardauna all signed that agreement.
This was why the british overruled Awolowo in the secession clause.
Make una take am easy to dey lie. How can one man overrule more than 20 delegates present in the meeting? Try and have sense once again.

Actuarydeji:
I refuse to come down to your level.

You don't even have any facts because what you are saying are all lies

Buhari4dullard:
You Northerners

The northerners who T-Pain has never spoken against?
The ones that Obasanjo chose to succeed him in 1979 and in 2007? Did he not endorse a northerner from another party to replace the southerner in the party that made him president from Abacha’s prison, when he was a bankrupt ex-convict?

Highways:
Where Are The Cows? Is Evans A Herdsman?'


When Funke Olakurin, daughter of Afenifere leader, Pa Reuben Fasoranti was murdered instead of Bola Tinubu to make sure that the perpetrators were brought to book, he ended up making fun of the death of the young lady by turning everything into tribalism by showing his hates for Igbos.


Tinubu has never spoken against the deadly activities of Fulani herdsmen across the country

The same stand Adeyinka Grandson gave on the death of Fasoranti's daughter is where Tinubu, the leader of the Yoruba Conservatives stands. Please see Tinubu's video below. pic.twitter.com/COhiSvabqW

— Adeyinka Grandson (@deyinkagrandson) July 14, 2019

Mrs Olakunrin died of gunshot wounds in July 2019 after her vehicle was attacked by armed men, suspected to be marauding Fulani bandits whose violent activities had reached a frightening level across the southwest states.


Those arrested suspects include Lawal Mazaje, 40, from Felele area of Kogi State; Adamu Adamu, 50, from Jada area of Adamawa State; Mohammed Usman, 26, from Illela area of Sokoto State and Auwal Abubakar, 25, from Shinkafi area of Zamfara State....

However, the leader of the team, identified only as Tambaya, and three others are yet to be found.

Tambaya has been declared wanted by the police and he is said to be capable of communicating in Hausa, Fulfude and Pidgin English.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/388382-afenifere-police-speak-on-arrest-of-alleged-killers-of-fasorantis-daughter.html

Zooposki:
Men giving their fellow men instructions to follow.

That was what the British wanted to do to maintain their hold on Nigeria, and all our founding fathers both Zik, Awo and Sardauna were desperate to take over from the British and do what the British have been doing, that they signed without any thought whatsoever.

EmperorCaesar:


Dreamer!

When you talk about secession, you only consider the major tribes and prolly those ethnic groups with a fairly huge population and land to themselves.

You dont even worry about gwari, Jukuns, Egede, Igala and the other small groups(around 240) that do not even have the land and resources to survive on their own. How do you want them to cope? Thats insensitive


He should rest abeg. The world is bigger than Yoruba, Hausa and that one

There is nothing like 240 groups. If na like that, every family is a group. Abeg go siddon, 240 this and that. If them know where those oyibos bring them come from, make them retrace go back there.

That one is the real Africans, the rest are maybes.

EmperorCaesar:


Dreamer!

When you talk about secession, you only consider the major tribes and prolly those ethnic groups with a fairly huge population and land to themselves.

You dont even worry about gwari, Jukuns, Egede, Igala and the other small groups(around 240) that do not even have the land and resources to survive on their own. How do you want them to cope? Thats insensitive


He should rest abeg. The world is bigger than Yoruba, Hausa and that one

Look at what you just said...and that one.

helinues:
Wetin this illiterate dey talk bayi

Yorubas and fear for self rule

chiagozien:
Yorubas and fear for self rule

You people can continue to allow illiterates to be leading your campaign but here in South West, we don't act that way

Urheadmaster:





He is right. Igbos, Yorubas, and Hausa/Fulani can't work out things in a country. Because we don't share the same culture, beliefs, and religion. We don't have anything in common.

Exactly, some will be lifting it, others will be pulling it down. The North for instance, is waiting for 2027 to come, to put their person there, who will work for their interest only, not minding if their interest will be at the expense of the development of the nation.

Moroccoguy:
Okay

ipobs are coming

EmperorCaesar:


Dreamer!

When you talk about secession, you only consider the major tribes and prolly those ethnic groups with a fairly huge population and land to themselves.

You dont even worry about gwari, Jukuns, Egede, Igala and the other small groups(around 240) that do not even have the land and resources to survive on their own. How do you want them to cope? Thats insensitive


He should rest abeg. The world is bigger than Yoruba, Hausa and that one

I must be honest with you that I've never thought about this your line of reasoning before and you are very right. I came from a major tribe but it's not fair to divorce a wife of 80 years with kids and grandkids just because you suddenly realized she's not bringing much to the family table as you do. All of us have been part of the entity for ages despite our different levels of contribution and I believe no tribe is superior to others. Although my tribe doesn't have that evil expansionism and land/resources grabbing mentality like the other tribe, we should all consider the impact of this seperatist agenda on the other tribes. America has hundreds of tribes with different religious and cultural backgrounds. We can't just wake up one day and begin to dismantle everything we've built together. We need to consider the minority people.

EmperorCaesar:


Dreamer!

When you talk about secession, you only consider the major tribes and prolly those ethnic groups with a fairly huge population and land to themselves.

You dont even worry about gwari, Jukuns, Egede, Igala and the other small groups(around 240) that do not even have the land and resources to survive on their own. How do you want them to cope? Thats insensitive


He should rest abeg. The world is bigger than Yoruba, Hausa and that one

The smaller tribes should join the larger tribes of their choice. Nigeria was once divided in SE, SW and North. The country has further been divided into six regions.

The Yorubas, Igbos and Hausa should not be allowed to be held back by the smaller tribes.

amaridigital:
I must be honest with you that I've never thought about this your line of reasoning before and you are very right. I came from a major tribe but it's not fair to divorce a wife of 80 years with kids and grandkids just because you suddenly realized she's not bringing much to the family table as you do. All of us have been part of the entity for ages despite our different levels of contribution and I believe no tribe is superior to others. Although my tribe doesn't have that evil expansionism and land/resources grabbing mentality like the other tribe, we should all consider the impact of this seperatist agenda on the other tribes. America has hundreds of tribes with different religious and cultural backgrounds. We can't just wake up one day and begin to dismantle everything we've built together. We need to consider the minority people.

It happened in India, Yugoslavia and Sudan. It is happening in Mali, DRC Somalia and Myanmar. Don't deceive yourself, its better to plan for separation before separation is forced on you by conflicts.

SmartyPants:
The minorities will fare better by joining any of the major tribes that they have close cultural and social ties with. It is better to have one big majority to contend with, than to have three majorities to content with.

For example, if Gwari people were to join Hausas in a new country, they could make the case that every 3rd president should come from their tribe. In Nigeria, when some of the major tribes are still waiting for their turn, what chance do they have?

If Nigeria can work, fine. But if some people feel it is not working the way they like, then they have every right to leave and every prospect of success on their own or with their co-leavers. Life is meant to be simple.

I couldn't have said it any better. The first republic had two major ethnic groups, the Bini and Yoruba. When the Midwest wanted to create their region, they were supported by the Yorubas.

One of the road block in Nigeria is the competition between the three major ethnic group polical and regional interest.

EmperorCaesar:


Dreamer!

When you talk about secession, you only consider the major tribes and prolly those ethnic groups with a fairly huge population and land to themselves.

You dont even worry about gwari, Jukuns, Egede, Igala and the other small groups(around 240) that do not even have the land and resources to survive on their own. How do you want them to cope? Thats insensitive


He should rest abeg. The world is bigger than Yoruba, Hausa nand that one

That is not a problem bro. When we have referendum, they will choose where they want to go. Anyway, before the forced marriage they were existing happily.

We are not seperating. It is one Nigeria till death or rapture. We have to learn to live with one another.

Fiscus105:
Maybe, Jenifa should also produce "everybody like fame" since this criminal tasted fame, the illiterate has been trying hard to remain famous.

Anyway, internet making every rat and cockroach to be famous.

This thread only exposes how empty the heads of most of you are. You all rush to condemn Igboho as "illiterate".

Yet his wisdom and powers of observation means you educated illiterate and losers, with false sense of superiority, miss the most important chapter of his talk, shown below.

Talk that every intelligent, exposed, self-made and progressive Nigerians know, in the age of social media and globalisation, only means Igboho is inevitably correct.He has intelligently seen what is coming no negative talk, scaremongering or unprogressive Presidency can deny.

So many winners, especially Yorubas, who have gotten to the top in the diaspora yet they are empty and want to go to their homeland, they feel most pride residing in, and transform it spectacular. I know this from direct experience as does Igboho. .

Can't speak for others but I know for a fact that many Yorubas are moving silently moping up opportunities, preparing and entrenching themselves in an Africa set to change drastically in the next three decades while dummies like you are still hitting the net speaking emotionally based on ethnocentric bias.

Look closely and factually at Tinubu's cabinet and you'd be shocked at the substantial number of diaspora-trained and distinguished technocrats now willingly involved in the administration of Nigeria. Whereas 20 or so years ago they would have remained in the West and turned their backs on Nigeria permanently.

Times will overtake, disgrace and shock feudal and empty mumus like you. Keep insulting the messenger while remaining blind to the idea which will inevitably become our reality. Smart folks will prepare for it as Yorubas are doing.

Igboho said Yoruba youths, who have gained valuable knowledge and experience from travelling worldwide, are eager to transform the Yoruba nation into a modern, prosperous society similar to that of Europe.

The country has never worked since 1960. Time to pack it up and go our different ways

It is not 'if' nigeria is not working. . It is not working, it has never worked since 1960

helinues:
You people can continue to allow illiterates to be leading your campaign but here in South West, we don't act that way

Maybe there are no literate in south west to lead campaign, the very reason they kill to remain one Nigeria.



Which of those leading campaigns in East are you more educated than?

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Senseless one coming from an
Empty head.
Why not come straight and tell your brother that he is messing this country up. In your inherent cunning nature, you just generalized the failure.

If Hausa , Yoruba and Igbo are the major people you know, in the spirit of equity and fairness, why are you NOT asking your people and the Hausas, the reason Igbos are being sidelined?

You expect the tripod called Nigeria to stand with two legs?

Wayo is indeed in your blood, all of you.

Take it from me, your people will develop nothing if the separation happens . This is a curse . Until you all apologize to Igbo for the atrocities you committed against them during the war, you will never grow above them

EmperorCaesar:


Dreamer!

When you talk about secession, you only consider the major tribes and prolly those ethnic groups with a fairly huge population and land to themselves.

You dont even worry about gwari, Jukuns, Egede, Igala and the other small groups(around 240) that do not even have the land and resources to survive on their own. How do you want them to cope? Thats insensitive


He should rest abeg. The world is bigger than Yoruba, Hausa and that one

we will share them, let them decide who to follow

OYA forceful marriage will head no way

Eagleways:
Senseless one coming from an
Empty head.
Why not come straight and tell your brother that he is messing this country up. In your inherent cunning nature, you just generalized the failure.

If Hausa , Yoruba and Igbo are the major people you know, in the spirit of equity and fairness, why are you NOT asking your people and the Hausas, the reason Igbos are being sidelined?

You expect the tripod called Nigeria to stand with two legs?

Wayo is indeed in your blood, all of you.

Take it from me, your people will develop nothing if the separation happens . This is a curse . Until you all apologize to Igbo for the atrocities you committed against them during the war, you will never grow above them

Lol. This is what it always boils down to for you revisionist losers and delusion creatures of hate. It is you people who should apologise to other Nigerians for the senseless war you dragged them into, or it shall never be well for you.

EmperorCaesar:


Dreamer!

When you talk about secession, you only consider the major tribes and prolly those ethnic groups with a fairly huge population and land to themselves.

You dont even worry about gwari, Jukuns, Egede, Igala and the other small groups(around 240) that do not even have the land and resources to survive on their own. How do you want them to cope? Thats insensitive


He should rest abeg. The world is bigger than Yoruba, Hausa and that one

We have hosted regional governance in the past. All the "small groups" you mention existed back then also.

Perhaps it is time Nigerians study thoroughly and exhaustively the template that made regional governance a success in the past till the military boys truncated it.

EmperorCaesar:


Dreamer!

When you talk about secession, you only consider the major tribes and prolly those ethnic groups with a fairly huge population and land to themselves.

You dont even worry about gwari, Jukuns, Egede, Igala and the other small groups(around 240) that do not even have the land and resources to survive on their own. How do you want them to cope? Thats insensitive


He should rest abeg. The world is bigger than Yoruba, Hausa and that one

It’s easy to see the only reason you still support Nigeria as one is simply for the interest of your tribe and not for Nigeria. You are still concerned about how your own tribe will survive without this contraption, or maybe your tribe is among the major tribes that has access to high ranking political offices at the moment so this gives you a false sense of superiority and you prefer this to separation, and that’s the point. People like you who champion one Nigeria are less concerned about Nigeria as unit and more concerned about your personal or tribal interests. And this is the reason Nigeria doesn’t work. The people fighting or “begging” for united Nigeria are not encouraging those that are skeptical about it.

Please if your response will be full of insults and personal attacks on people, then it’s best not to respond. I don’t have time for that now.

helinues:
Wetin this illiterate dey talk bayi

Very funny illiterate cos hes not speaking english? U are slowpoke!!!! Hes Yoruba and fighting for Yoruba interest not english, go and hug transformer if u not ok with that. Yoruba nation, no going back!!!!!!

Show me what the english speaking educated politician and their friends have done for the country? You cant be doing same thing over and over and expect different answer!!!!!!

UltraSolid:
Lol. This is what it always boils down to for you revisionist losers and delusion creatures of hate. It is you people who should apologise to other Nigerians for the senseless war you dragged them into, or it shall never be well for you.

it will never be well with you. You will never grow

9jatriot:
I have said it before and I will say it again. Any body that wants to separate, FG should buy some plots of land very far from here, around centre africa and move those who want to go to that place.

Often times, countries that separate and live close to each other are always at war, eg Ethiopa/Eritea, India/Parkistan, Isreal/Palestine, Russia/ Ukraine, South Korea/North Korea, South Sudan/ North Sudan... The list is just endless

You are downright misinformed.