₦airaland Forum

Omalicious1:
So, where is the N930 billion? I hope you won't ask if we are in a closed door session

They are using it to pay accrued debts to improve their credit score (is it called AA something for countries?) so they can have scope to borrow more and maybe the people can see the visibility then.

Blame Bubu and PDP presidents for allowing us to get to this stage.

aswani:
Okay, since when has that not being true in Nigeria, that statement didn't just start being true with President Tinubu's regime and would have been true regardless of who was voted in last time.

I am not APC but certain things should not be attributed to him.r

My friend, it is of course true that suffering has been long in Africa. However I am confused as to what you are trying to do. Are you attempting to deny that the policies of this administration heightened and tripled and magnified that suffering or what. The facts and stats are there. It can't be denied. It's an empirical fact with subsidy removal and the devaluation of the naira. If you want to argue that these measures are necessary, by all means do so, but to pretend that there has been no spike in cost of living in a distinct way which has caused greater hardship than heretofore was the case, is quite tiresome.

Yet no improvement, except some bullshit story that it averted some suffering.

aswani:
They are using it to pay accrued debts to improve their credit score (is it called AA something for countries?) so they can have scope to borrow more and maybe the people can see the visibility then.

Blame Bubu and PDP presidents for allowing us to get to this stage.

Nigeria is a country blessed with so many mineral resources. I'm of the opinion that if we look inward and think well, we won't need to borrow.

DatNiggaDaz:
After removing the "unsustainable" life, this is the sustainabke life that the best guru fake certificate economists has to ofger ?

Are you saying that the lives of Nigerians under Obasanjo & GEJ were unsustainable but the records say otherwise.

Do not deceive yourself again, Nigerians lives started to be unsustainable immediately Apc came on board 2015

The statistics are facts & as clear as day light.

Where is the saved funds fröm saved subsidy ? The goon of a Finance minister was asked by the cash & carry senate commitee to give Account of the saved subsidy, he could not instead he insisted on a closed door explanation Formuler

For those that were alive long before 2015, all of this stuff and more was said then. Like I said, BUBU and PDP presidents put us in this position.

You want clear facts àbi, go and trawl through all the money borrowing that Governments have done since civilian handover post Abacha. See for yourself what projects it was spent on and how much was paid back.

Go and look at the current lavish lifestyles of PDP cabinet members from back then. Come back and tell us how anyone can turn that mess round in under 2 years to be blamed for it all.

Or ignore all that, take the easy route and blame President Tinubu. Your choice!

Omalicious1:
Nigeria is a country blessed with so many mineral resources. I'm of the opinion that if we look inward and think well, we won't need to borrow.

I agree that we are blessed, sadly we also have greedy people that put their greed ahead of the country's needs.

Too late for "How blessed we are" now as we have debts to service.

aswani:
For those that were alive long before 2015, all of this stuff and more was said then. Like I said, BUBU and PDP presidents put us in this position.

You want clear facts àbi, go and trawl through all the money borrowing that Governments have done since civilian handover post Abacha. See for yourself what projects it was spent on and how much was paid back.

Go and look at the current lavish lifestyles of PDP cabinet members from back then. Come back and tell us how anyone can turn that mess round in under 2 years to be blamed for it all.

Or ignore all that, take the easy route and blame President Tinubu. Your choice!

Now you are blaming BUBU, the former darling daddy of Apc. You are lying bro. I hate liars.

The only people who were telling bubu the truth was our neigbours from the East, the MB, & the SS my people. The other region was hailing bubu while he was destroying the country with inefficiency, tribalism, recession, insecurities etc.

For some people to come today & start blaming thesame bubu darling daddy after snatching & grabbing is demonic & lies taken too far.

Your lies & deceit has gone enough using bubu to catch cruise. Once again you have left the failures & again PDP is to blame

Should I remind you that propaganda, lies & deceit will never take you far. Do you know that their are statistics of Performance? Even bubu's first yr in Office is 2 tines better that the first clueless yr of bobo Chicago. PDP's 16yrs is 100 times better than APC demonic influence on Nigerians.

Bro, today, you will be sent to the retirement home of propaganda, lies & deceit.

Na promise

THEDEEPSIGHT:
but to pretend that there has been no spike in cost of living in a distinct way which has caused greater hardship than heretofore was the case, is quite tiresome.

Sir, I am not sure how old you at but I am certain that the cost of living increased a lot more during IBB's SAP stuff. I also vaguely remember a spike during NPN's rule.

I can assure you there was some serious hardship then. That was the era of 0-1-0 coming into terminology as well as people "checking out" en masse.

I don't, lije you too, have proof to hand and quite frankly, don't have time to go and find them.

The suffering you might be living through is not worse than others did.

stuffs2002:
Obi Tegwolor and his minions will soon start wailing and gnashing their teeth on this thread over this good news.

Mkpi

nedu666:
I said it and will repeat it again its obvious tinubu measures performance by increase in govt revenue. You hardly hear him or his ministers talk about reduction of inflation, interest rate, unemployment, poverty. Every time they open their mouth, it's all about increase in govt revenue

which is the easiest thing any idiot can do,increase price of government goods and services and in any Case the government has monopoly so they will get patronage and revenue will pour in ,which is what they have done,increase price of electricity, price of fuel, how much they sell foreign exchange, increase school fees,increase customs tariffs,increase taxes,introduce all manners of charges on Bank transactions
They are just taking without responsibility, that is not responsible leadership

DatNiggaDaz:
Now you are blaming BUBU, the former darling daddy of Apc. You are lying bro. I hate liars.

The only people who were telling bubu the truth was our neigbours from the East, the MB, & the SS my people. The other region was hailing bubu while he was destroying the country with inefficiency, tribalism, recession, insecurities etc.

For some people to come today & start blaming thesame bubu darling daddy after snatching & grabbing is demonic & lies taken too far.

Your lies & deceit has gone enough using bubu to catch cruise. Once again you have left the failures & again PDP is to blame

Should I remind you that propaganda, lies & deceit will never take you far. Do you know that their are statistics of Performance? Even bubu's first yr in Office is 2 tines better that the first clueless yr of bobo Chicago. PDP's 16yrs is 100 times better than APC demonic influence on Nigerians.

Bro, today, you will be sent to the retirement home of propaganda, lies & deceit.

Na promise

First off, I am not APC, never once in my life did I vote for them, okay.

Per the ranting you have just done, what has that got to do with how PDP governments and Bubu have destroyed the economy and refused to make an attempt to turn it round leaving it to the next person instead?

PDP couldn't care less about their financial recklessness, they were the only national party, with the others being glorified regional ones, so they ran amok.

Interesting that at the first sign of a national party challenging them, they were kicked out. What does that say about them and how well they governed?

Send me to wherever you want to, I'll be here waiting.

"Tinubus-refoms-save-nigeria-n930b-drive-economic-recovery-by-wale-edun".

Absolutely nonsensical in view of the abject NAIRA DEVALUATION that we have been coping with since WALE EDUN AND CARDOSO WERE SWORN IN AS MINISTERS.
TINUBU SHOULD PLEASE TAG THE NAIRA AT N500 : $1 NOW NOW NOW.
FIX PETROL AT N500 PER LITER.
THIS IS PRESIDENTIAL PREROGATIVE.

JAOS:
Driving economy and the masses into poverty our currency value is less than that of 3yrs ago and you are speaking of growth 😏

HE IS SPEAKING BLADDER DASH.

HE IS TAKING NONSENSE.

HE is talking EMEFIELE AND BUHARINOMICS JARGON.

Ojuntana:
Recovery from what?
The economy was already growing at over 3% before you took office so it's not as if you took Nigeria from recession
Inflation has worsened since you took office
Interest rates have almost doubled and Nigerians are now paying more for living expenses than any time in history
Debts have increased
Dollar value of govt income has reduced
Unemployment has not improved either
Shall we talk about exchange rate that has plummeted?
So what exactly is the economy recovering from?
I think it's becoming obvious that these guys are taking Nigerians for a ride
They just throw around figures as they wish without any thought for what they said previously
N930bn is just about $930m while this man previously said $20bn was being used to subsidise fuel every year by the previous administration. So if $20bn was spent on subsidy, how come you're only able to save $930m out of $20bn? Where's the remaining $19.1bn?
I'm more convinced that these guys don't have any clue what they are doing with the economy!!

The most annoying thing for me is there academic resume, phd in harvard hiv in oxford But when you listen to any of them speak .. you wonder where is the school

outside govt/politics these people are intelligent but the moment dey work under politics ... smh

EMEFIELE DIDN'T COOPERATE WITH ZAINAB UNDER BUHARI, BUT NOW WALE EDUN IS COMPLETELY DOMINATING CARDOSO. THEY ARE DESTROYING OUR BANKING SYSTEM PER SECOND PER SECOND.

zero8zero:
You were already borrowing to pay subsidy . Tinubu saved your lazy ass.

@least when we know what we were borrowing for and felt the impact

Now Tinubu is collecting more loans, no accountability, no impact and we dont even know where these loans go

Talk is cheap and those at the table will always observe table manners.

aswani:
First off, I am not APC, never once in my life did I vote for them, okay.

Per the ranting you have just done, what has that got to do with how PDP governments and Bubu have destroyed the economy and refused to make an attempt to turn it round leaving it to the next person instead?

PDP couldn't care less about their financial recklessness, they were the only national party, with the others being glorified regional ones, so they ran amok.

Interesting that at the first sign of a national party challenging them, they were kicked out. What does that say about them and how well they governed?

Send me to wherever you want to, I'll be here waiting.

If you you did not vote Apc or support what is your aim defending the policies of those you never believed in ?

You see you are lying again & I dislike liars. You have been up so early in the morning defending the policies of what you never believed in the first place. Can you hear the lies urself ? Who does that ?

I will reject failures also if I were in your shoes. I will deny failures also if I had beaten that chest standing on a mandate after reality hit different.

The die hard suppoters of bobo Chicago denied their old monikers they used to stand on a mandate. You aint different.

I have a very good idea who you are from your comments here. But I will allow you to expose the deceit, propaganda & lies that is inherent in folks like urself

Look below the statistics 👇🏿

Thie record of Inflation in the first yr tenure of Apc, pdp. Do you see the difference. Will you blame pdp or will you blame darling daddy or both ?

DatNiggaDaz:
If you you did not vote Apc or support what is your aim defending the policies of those you never believed in ?

You see you are lying again & I dislike liars. You have been up so early in the morning defending the policies of what you never believed in the first place. Can you hear the lies urself ? Who does that ?

I will reject failures also if I were in your shoes. I will deny failures also if beat that chest rgat was standing on a mandate after coming into the World or reality.

The die hard suppoters of bobo Chicago denied their old monikers they used to stand on a mandate. You aint different.

I have a very good idea who you are from your comments here. But I will allow you to expose the deceit, propaganda & lies that is inherent in folks like urself

Look below the statistics 👇🏿

Ọ ma

aswani:
Ọ ma

Dont lie again.

What doees the table Show you. Do you understand the table ?

DatNiggaDaz:
Dont lie again.

What doees the table Show you. Do you understand the table ?

What won't work is you ignoring all I said just to rant about stuff that bears little or no resemblance to it.

Even as stubborn as I am, I know when to move on in my life.

Enjoy your victory..

aswani:
What won't work is you ignoring all I said just to rant about stuff that bears little or no resemblance to it.

Even as stubborn as I am, I know when to move on in my life.

Enjoy your victory..

I know taking flight will be next. Propaganda, lies & deceit cannot take you far. You can't defend lies.

I said you will reture to the room of Propaganda, lies & deceit. It just happened.

Do you understand the table ?

Bobloco:
Are you Wale Edun?

No he is not but he is curing you from illiteratecumania

SIRAO:
No he is not but he is curing you from illiteratecumania

What is he curing you of?

donself9:
@least when we know what we were borrowing for and felt the impact

Now Tinubu is collecting more loans, no accountability, no impact and we dont even know where these loans go

Where's the proofs he has taken more loans?. All these lies you guys are getting from Him Tu Lie.

Pack of lies

Kuginzi:
https://thenationonlineng.net/edun-tinubus-refoms-save-nigeria-n930b-drive-economic-recovery/amp/

Werey.

If there was anything positive about the so called useless reforms, you don’t need to be blowing your own trumpet.

What is glaring about the demonic reforms are only gloom and doom.

It’s only agbadorians that are seeing the benefits, as they have been conditioned to a life of suffering and have hope that it will get better, eventhough it’s getting worse for them.

Why are they forcing us to see what is not?

donself9:
The most annoying thing for me is there academic resume, phd in harvard hiv in oxford But when you listen to any of them speak .. you wonder where is the school

outside govt/politics these people are intelligent but the moment dey work under politics ... smh

And to show how disingenuous they are
When they wanted to declare how much they claimed Nigeria spends on subsidy they used dollars: twenty billion dollars
But when it was time to reveal how much they saved from subsidy removal, seeing that the dollar denomination will sound like pittance they switched to naira: nine hundred and thirty billon naira

aswani:
Sir, I am not sure how old you at but I am certain that the cost of living increased a lot more during IBB's SAP stuff. I also vaguely remember a spike during NPN's rule.

I can assure you there was some serious hardship then. That was the era of 0-1-0 coming into terminology as well as people "checking out" en masse.

I don't, lije you too, have proof to hand and quite frankly, don't have time to go and find them.

The suffering you might be living through is not worse than others did.

So in short, since it has happened before, there is nothing new, Tinubu's policies have caused no suffering, people are imagining things, the inflation experienced since May 2023 is no big deal, the devaluation of the naira is excellent, everyone should shut up and move on, etc.

If SAP 1.0 achieved nothing at the end of the day save punish Nigerians, why are you busy defending SAP 2.0? Why are you sounding so blase about whats going on? You like Tinubu, so? Must that make you insensitive to the ordeal people are being forced through? You are wealthy or comfortable, so? Must that make you insensitive to what the majority are suffering?

Famines have happened before, so? Must that make you pretend a current famine is not happening or that it is good?

PS: I am no kid either.

Ojuntana:
And to show how disingenuous they are
When they wanted to declare how much they claimed Nigeria spends on subsidy they used dollars: twenty billion dollars
But when it was time to reveal how much they saved from subsidy removal, seeing that the dollar denomination will sound like pittance they switched to naira: nine hundred and thirty billon naira

Such unconscionable frauds.