Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. - Politics (2) - Nairaland
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| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by ZombieDredd: 10:30am On Jan 07, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:interesting |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Konquest: 7:44pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:Deep historical insights. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Konquest: 7:49pm On Jan 12, 2025*. Modified: 10:25pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:That's interesting. Is Herbert Wigwe who hailed from Isiokpo also of Aro origins? Herbert was married to an Anambra woman. Same with Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi who is married to an Anambra woman. I wonder if these two men too are direct descendants of the Aros who notoriously controlled the sale of the primitive tribes in the Igbo interior and a few others for sale to the Ijaw middlemen and the White slave buyers at Bonny and other Niger Delta slave ports. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Konquest: 7:53pm On Jan 12, 2025*. Modified: 10:19pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
saddler:NOTE: The red chieftaincy cap is historically of Middle Belt origin and was FIRST introduced into the Nsukka area of Enugu State within the last 400 years by the igala people where you have some Igala bloodlines in Northern Enugu State. The wearing of the red chieftaincy cap spread from Nsukka many years later to areas of the current Igbo areas that Igalas NEVER even had direct contact with meaning they copied it. Just as I stated above, the red chieftaincy cap is NOT originally an Igbo creation (but of Middle Belt Origins as can be seen among the ethnic Igalas of Kogi State, Northern Enugu, Northern Anambra, etc, the ethnic Yorubas especially of Kogi and Kwara States, the Ebiras, Jukuns, and more, etc). |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by XerXers: 7:56pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
More wailings. Just look at the names of the people telling the world that they are not igbos |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Godwin4444: 8:04pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
chiagozien:are u Igbos English? Y do u bear English names? |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Oceanfl0w: 8:18pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
Do ikwerres still have lands in portharcourt, apart from houses they inherited, which they are already selling to igbos from South East? You'll only rate those people are if you haven't stayed in PH before. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by chiagozien(m): 8:27pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
Godwin4444:Foolish question. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Ojiofor: 8:28pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
Ekwerulem and Ikwerre is same thing in Igbo. Btw why did British colonizers bring Igbo translator to Ikwerreland if they were not Igbo speakers? They should stop disgracing themselves any further. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Kreesxxx(op): 9:28pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
Konquest:Listen to me and this will help out the relationship between Igbos and other Igbo related tribes. Igbos people do not want to recognise the difference between those who are Igbos and those who are igboid. Ikwerre is an igboid tribe. It looks like Igbo from afar but when you come closer it gets clearer that they are not exactly Igbo. I am Ikwerre and with the segregation I see in my home there is no way I could have been Igbo. There are roles you don't play in Ikwerre traditional setting if there is an Igbo blood in your ancestry. If you know any ikwerre ask. Even when some persons die their graves are usually dug differently if there was no Igbo blood in their ancestry. What I think Igbo think-tank this time should do is to form a Union of Igbos and Igbo related people. I am Igboid. From afar I look like Igbo but a closer look shows I am not. Igbos tried to annex ikwerre before and during the war it was a failed project and one of the reasons they failed in the war. It didn't happen then when Igbos were in charge of governance in eastern Nigeria and Nigeria as a whole it won't happen now. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Konquest: 10:26pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
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| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Gajagojo: 11:08pm On Jan 12, 2025 |
Datfunkyguy:This is equally true of Italians Portuguese and Spanish They all use Ronaldo, Paolo Sergio Mario , etc That is a phenomenon seen All over the World They say they are Not Ibo and you continue draggin them. Na juju be dat |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by oceania100(m): 12:35am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:I like your view point. However, I'll want ask you: who really is Igbo? Every group in Igbo land e.g. Ngwa, Nsukka,Enuani, Ika, Ukwani Owerri, Aro, Ohafia,Edda, Ikwerre, Omambala, Nri etc, all look Igbo from afar, but on closer look are distinct with their unique dialect, and way of life. But are simply united with a common language called Igbo. That is why they are called BIA speaking people. So, who then is this Igbo you are referring to? Also, these groups mentioned do not all trace their ancestors from one source. Some groups even in the SE will tell you that their ancestors migrated from Benin as Ikwerre also claimed, yet they have embraced the Igbo tag without qualms. So, who then is this real Igbo you keep referring to? |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Kreesxxx(op): 2:09am On Jan 13, 2025 |
oceania100:Don't group Ikwerres among Igbos. There are people called Igbos. We know them in Ikwerre land. If you want to call Bia people and you added Ikwerre well to some extent it might be overlooked. Let me also reveal to you that not all Ikwerre people use Bia some use Va. So where do you place these ones? Right from time we have always known who the Igbos are. So no matter the colouration given to it with our last blood we will reject it. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Bullet4thiefnub: 2:33am On Jan 13, 2025 |
This one na politics , British anthropologists that gave us all our identities as Igbo Hausa and Yoruba wrote down ikwerre as a sub group of Igbo and called them coastal Igbos and their cousins the hinterland Igbos , so no amount of crap or twisting history wud change science but at same time am of the opinion that ikweeres be allowed to form their own ethnic group and not be a part of ohanaeze , yes we have ikweerews who are passionate about their igboness |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Gajagojo: 2:44am On Jan 13, 2025 |
oceania100:Language is not what makes a people People may speak a common language as lingua franca for all kinds of reasons e.g English , Arabic , Swahili, Spanish, Hausa. It does not mean they are the same Your first error Ikwerre is not a dialect of Igbo. Your second error This has been an established fact FOR decades Many of you do not know the origin of the word Igboid It does not refer to a people but a family of languages repeated languages not dialects of which Igbo is one and has the greatest population hence the word Igboid Ikwerre is a member of the Igboid family of languages Just like Latin Spanish , Italian, Portuguese belong to the same family and share many similarities but none is a dialect of the other You make your assertions out of emotions rather than facts, knowledge or research Take 15 minutes to research what you have just read here The foremost authority on Igboid languages is a lady called K Williamson who wrote the Igbo dictionary STOP making ignorant claims Real Igbos are those who WANT to be Igbos |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by naijaking1: 2:52am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Nanalucky:Haaaah! They sure forgot their bini names till after the civil war where Biafra was defeated. Back in the days when PH was under Owerri county, Ikwerre father's and great grandfathers swore oats declaring themselves Igbos. Elechi began all this craziness because of his relationship with Ken Saro Wiwa and Diette Spiff. Today, Yoruba internet warriors are championing the Ikwerre is not Igbo cause more than Ikwerres. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by naijaking1: 2:57am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:Another Yoruba internet warrior fighting a war that doesn't even concern him directly. 99% of Igbos don't care or worry about Ikwerre or whatever, but you have a job to do! |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Sirianese: 3:00am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Datfunkyguy:Claimu! ![]() |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Gajagojo: 3:15am On Jan 13, 2025 |
naijaking1:Ikwerre never swore any such oath They formed Ogbakor Ikwerre before Ohanaeze If they considered themselves Igbos WHY DID THEY GO TO THE WILLINKS COMMISSION Which other Igbo group went there? This was even before independence and long before Biafra War |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Sirianese: 3:24am On Jan 13, 2025 |
franchasofficia:Use your brain, Igbo man. It must not always be about sentiment and greed Use your brain 🧠🧠🧠 |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by eagleu: 3:32am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Gajagojo:Willinks commission was about all those who felt Igbos were taking their opportunities- Ijaws, Efiks, Cameroonians, Igbos and non Igbos. Ikwerre had complained about Akwiwu being made mayor of PH, and other nonsense issues. You still haven't answered why Ikwerre grandfathers claimed to be Igbos, especially when PH was under Owerri. Before you go into childish denial of what Ikwerre grandfathers called themselves, note that there's documents showing their applications for jobs in Enugu and Owerri. So sad, a miniature and inconsequential group will focus attention on themselves with this irrelevant discussion. Igbos don't need Ikwerre, but Ikwerre needs Igbos. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Gajagojo: 3:43am On Jan 13, 2025 |
eagleu:You are just telling stupid lies where did they claim to be Igbos? Where are the documents? Produce them You are a liar!!! Again why did Ikwerre go to Willinks Commission if they were Igbos What nonsense is the Akwiwu story ? Where is your source? You people just lie stupidly Ikwerre never claimed to be Igbo if you claim they did provide evidence Ikwerre formed Ogbakor Ikwerre long before Ohanaeze The Ikwerre commissioned their IKWERRE BIBLE because they do not want to be subsumed under Igbo They went to Willinks to resist Igbo domination Willinks Commission was the precursor to the creation of Rivers state and Cross Rivers State That agitation was identified at that time The Igbos killed it |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Gajagojo: 3:45am On Jan 13, 2025 |
naijaking1:What craziness did ELechi start? What relationship did he have with Spiff. From where? Why do you lie Was it Elechi that went to WIllinks Commission even before independence? Was it he that formed Ogbakor Ikwerre |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by rummmy: 5:08am On Jan 13, 2025 |
The visitor slave that came can still go back to benin but without indigenous people land |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by justtoodark: 6:45am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:dont mind them....they like trouble too much.... |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Kreesxxx(op): 6:55am On Jan 13, 2025 |
justtoodark:I have never seen people as low as these Israelis wanna be. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by NaMe4: 7:17am On Jan 13, 2025*. Modified: 7:44am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Bullet4thiefnub:Assuming this is true, they should stick to a false blanket description ascribed by British strangers? Is the Idoma man or Nupe man or Gbagyi man Hausa? Well, there are multiple documented history of the Ikwerres and their recognition as a distinct ethnic group by not just the British, but even earlier explorers. Most importantly they are a recognised ethnic group by the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. As far as ohanaeze president general matters is concerned, it can be given to even a Chadian, it's your prerogative. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by oceania100(m): 8:23am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:My question was specific: Among the groups mentioned or not mentioned, which exactly is the Igbo you referred to? The general Igbo language spoken in all these areas was only adopted, but not their main dialects, and each have it's unique ways of life. All the groups don't behave alike, same way siblings behave differently. Interestingly, asides language, every other things that bind all these groups together like culture, name, deity, market days, food are all found in Ikwerre land. So, if any of the group came up tomorrow and said, they are not Igbo, automatically, they aren't Igbo anymore? By your logic, should we remove the term' 'Igbo or Bia' for 'Igboid people' so it can be accepted to you? If Ikwerre land had no boundary whatsoever with other Igbo groups, perhaps your argument would have made a lot sens, but it does and almost interwoven..How come, your forbearers from the whole wide-world chose to come close to the same people if indeed you have no relationship in anyway? Many questions begging for answers. If you go to Abia State especially in Ohafia LG, some clans speak the ekoi dialect found in Cross River State. The people still recognise that those people are not Igbo, and are not forced to be Igbo, even though they are encircled by Igbo communities. What am saying, the average Igbo is not too keen as to whether Ikwerre is Igbo or not. However, the problem here is Emeka or Chijioke meeting someone bearing Emeka or Chijioke his neighbour. When they speak, they understands each other clearly. Only for one of the Emeka to turn round and accused the other of trying to force him to become his brother. Here lies the issue. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Nanalucky: 8:32am On Jan 13, 2025 |
But one oba say una no be Benin people for him book.....lol. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by DNAPro: 8:44am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Ok |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Tinubuadvocate: 8:49am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Until ikwerre take your ass go court before you stop the force marriage. Datfunkyguy: |
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