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| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Mbanda(m): 9:11am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:All these junk history is because of the ohaneze leadership ![]() Honestly am tired of these over flogged lies and propaganda. Every time benin, Benin, benin, but we don't see any benin language in ikwerre language and we don't see any Benin culture or tradition in that of ikwerre. Even the names the ikwerres bear, is far far different from that of the benis. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by PaellaPaella: 9:24am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:As a Bini man married an Igbo woman, nothing can make me lose my ancestral language, you are not making any sense with this analogy 🤣 |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by oceania100(m): 9:24am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Gajagojo:Language alone does not make a people. Yes, I agreed. In my submission you referred to, each group that make up the Igbo nation today have their unique dialect and way of life, just as siblings behave differently. Interestingly, other things that bind them together like name, culture, deity, market days are all present in Ikwerre land. What do you have to say about that? You said Ikwerre is 'Igboid' and not 'Igbo' You are right. Who then is 'Igbo' among the various groups? Asides Ikwerre, which other group(s) are classified as 'Igboid'? In the language classification you referred to, other Nigerian groups are also classified. Eg. Urhobo, Isoko etc are classified as Edoid,even with their unique differences, but you won't see them vehemently attacking the grouping the way the Ikwerre attacks the Igbo. They even agreed to be one people. The average Igbo is not too keen as to whether Ikwerre is Igbo or not. The issue here is Emeka seeing another man bearing Emeka his neighbour. When they speak, they understands each other clearly, practice the same culture, worship in the same way and eat the same food. Only for one of the Emeka to turn round and accused the other Emeka of trying to force him to become his brother. But in the eyes of other people, these people are viewed as same people. Here lies the issue!!! |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Kreesxxx(op): 10:03am On Jan 13, 2025 |
oceania100:There is a thing you Igbo expansionist are not getting in this whole argument. The ikwerres are saying that from Adam they have got nothing to do with you people. There is no igbo history telling you people about the relationship Igbos have with the ikwerres. We met by chance and we came to realise that we share some similarities. Instead of you to say we are brothers the next thing came up with that I am you. Would you accept that if Ikwerres had got the numbers you have? Even the Etche close to us we haven't claimed them. Althoff Etche claims to be related to the Ikwerres but the same we tell Igbos we don't have connections with them that is also what we tell the Etches. Good enough they recognise this. We might be related perhaps as people having common ancestry. Ikwerres see Igbo as an ethnic group just as they see themselves as an ethnic group. They can never give up their ethnicity to accept yours. Let me also throw light on those Ikwerres who are members of Ohaneze. Some of them are truly Igbos by ancestry. In those those their forebears were brought in as slaves. Till today the stigma is still there. They are never made the head of the family due to this stigma. The people who have this stigma are those who have no issues identifying with being Igbo. They are truly Igbos by blood. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Gajagojo: 10:55am On Jan 13, 2025*. Modified: 2:07pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
oceania100:What is Igbo Nation? You are talking nonsense. When was Igbo Nation inaugurated. Deity? So being Muslims makes Fulanis Arabs? Try and think before talking nonsense Portuguese people understand Spanish, They use similar names and are largely Catholic DOES THAT MAKE THEM SPANISH PEOPLE ![]() There are so many different deities even among Igbos they do not worship the same deity. If you must make a claim don't leave hanging in the air PROVIDE EVIDENCE. Which deities do Igbos have in common with Ikwerre. ? Worshipping same deity does not make us one people I did not say Ikwerre people are classified as Igboid. Please stop being dishonest I said Ikwerre language is Igboid not the people I said IKwerre language is NOT A DIALECT OF IGBO LANGUAGE. It is a language in its own right just like Igbo language. No GROUP is classified as Igboid rather languages are Are you and I and other Nigerians English because we speak English? Are Colombians Spanish because they speak Spanish Are Brazilians Portuguese because they speak Portuguese? Guy you lie very stupidly The Isoko and Urhobo situation is not relevant here. Ikwerre did not attack Igbos . How is saying they are not Igbo an attack? Are you so insecure? Stop making assertions without evidence. You say THEY EVEN AGREED TO BE ONE PEOPLE what does that mean and how is that relevant Again a language classification is not an ethnic classification Ika Ikwerre Ekpeye are examples of Igboid languages They ARE NOT dialects of Igbo |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by oceania100(m): 11:07am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:There are many ethic groups found in Niger Delta Area of 'Nigeria. Is it only the Igbo that were brought as 'slaves' in your land? What about other people, were there fully integrated as full Ikwerre 's except the 'Igbo slaves'? Igbo do not have single history, that you know. Some said they came from Israel. Some claim Benin migration, Akwa- Cross etc. By providence, they see themselves as one people today. It may also be true that providence brought Ikwerre to meet with other Bia people. You said those Ikwerres who belongs to Ohaneze are truly Igbos, therefore there is no qualms electing then to head the organisation. That's fine. But why is Ogbako Ikwerre threatening them? Don't they have right to express their Ignoness? My Brother (hope you're happy now), Igbo are not expansionist as you wrongly claim. The Nigerian system is what is forcing them to embrace their brothers at least within the Nigerian enclave. You know, by nature the Bia people are individualistic people each minding his business and perhaps his clans or community. Baring the Nigerian system, I can tell you that each group will just allow the others to do their thing . You know it was like that in the past, until the consciousness to unite came due to Nigerian factor. Even if you accept to be Igbo today, tell me will a man from Owerri or Edda come to your place and become your chief or rule you. You know that is not possible. Or will the man from Ohafia come to your place to dictate for you on how to live your life or start exploiting your resources for himself? Will your acceptance bring food to the other Igbo clans? If the answer to the above questions is no, where then is the expansion you are talking about? That Igbos want each group to relate or see themselves as brothers, is that what you called expansion? Even among brothers, some have large families and richer than others. But they relate peacefully without interfering on each others privacy or resources. Each continue to work hard to better his lot and that of his family. When the need arise, they work together to face a common enemy. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Gajagojo: 11:35am On Jan 13, 2025 |
Ojiofor:You are the one disgracing yourself So speaking Igbo makes them Igbo? Why not claim to be English because you speak English Is every Hausa speaker a Hausa person?? Igbo was a Lingua Franca during and after the slave trade because of population of Igbo slaves who were the most in those parts Just like Hausa in Northern Nigeria. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Gajagojo: 2:08pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
Can any of you jokers tell us that Ezaa language is an Igbo dialect |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by eagleu: 2:21pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
Gajagojo:While the real Ikwerre people know the truth, some are pushing for Ohaneze leadership, it's Yoruba folks who are energized, crazed, and obsessed with this Ikwerre is not Igbo argument. The average Igboman really doesn't care about Ikwerre, but na yoruba man go carry am for head. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by naijaking1: 2:42pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
eagleu:Sen Mbata and Uche Okwukwu are from Rivers, and we have seen how fast they snapped up the opportunity to lead Ohaneze. So, why's the headache about whether they are Igbos or not? |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Kreesxxx(op): 7:03pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
oceania100:Bros there is a thing you said above that I picked. You agreed you are my brother and not my father. If Igbos had pushed with this they wouldn't be running into clashes with igboid group. Ikwerre is Igboid. They look like Igbos but are not Igbos. Igbos could form a Union of Igbo People and Igboid People. This is how to form a big house. Ikwerres see Igbos as brothers but Igbos see Ikwerres as son. This is where the problem is. Lastly most or almost all slaves in Ikwerre land came from Igbo ancestry. We know the families till date. Due to the stigmatisation and classification they suffered that is why those who have this history don't waste time to say Ikwerre is Igbo. They are wrong. I don't see anything wrong in any of them aspiring to rule Ohaneze. But bringing Ikwerre into it is the big issue. I can declare I am Igbo but I might be overstepping my powers when I start to declare that Ikwerre is Igbo. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by ElevationD: 7:18pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:Yes you are, indirectly. If you say “John” is a foreign name, why bear it? Does it not show that you have a relationship with those who that name originally is theirs? |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by ElevationD: 7:22pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
Gajagojo:But speaking English, having a UK passport or citizenship makes you an English man, right? With tribal marks on your face, having an American citizenship and pledging allegiance makes you an American, right? Kemi Badenoch is supposedly a full fledged Yoruba person, yet today she is married to a white English man, holds the UK citizenship and tells us all Nigerians that she is a Briton. Can you explain that please, within the context of this discussion. Look at it from that angle please. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by ElevationD: 7:31pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:More likely the language of the peoples in the unknown land. In this case, the Bini man migrated to an area with an Igbo woman, met Igbo speaking people there. Which language should the be speaking? You marry a fellow Nigerian, migrate to Germany and expect your children not to adopt the language, title, culture and tradition of the Germans? You expect your children not to be called Germans? |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by ElevationD: 7:34pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
UKEMY:Ah. Please take your time to read history. Read how America became a nation. Read about those who migrated there to meet who were called the aboriginal people. Read about the American war of independence and give us the answer to your question. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by o42austino(m): 8:20pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
Lies, the Portuguese came here 1400AD and recorded that their are people in that land called ikwerre and they said they are Igbos, the Oba u guys mentioned start after 1430, so their is no way ndi Ikwerre is from Benin or can trace their original to the mentioned king erra Kreesxxx: |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by o42austino(m): 8:23pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
Kreesxxx:their will speak their father language, it's a patriarchy system then, no where then do women control the culture and language, it's the men things, let them stop lying like kids. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by o42austino(m): 8:31pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
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| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Kreesxxx(op): 8:38pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
o42austino:Show me a prove of where the Portuguese said that. Secondly how are sure the people met are not Igbo slaves? Portuguese never had contact with Ikwerre land. If a Portuguese said something that you know that is not true are you not in a position to correct him? Have you met an Ikwerre man before? Does he look like you? Do you understand his language? Remember an Ikwerre man understands your language because he was taught in school. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Xisnin(m): 8:47pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
ZombieDredd:Freedom of association I guess. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Xisnin(m): 8:48pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
chiagozien:By, your logic, any igbo that can't speak Igbo language is not Igbo? |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by UKEMY(m): 3:03am On Jan 16, 2025 |
ElevationD:America was Occupied by Britain and the Brits were driven out. Igbo's are better with their 5 states |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Makavelli001: 4:56am On Jan 16, 2025 |
HMMMM..... NA WHAOOO PERSON GO JUST STAY FOR HIM BROWN ZINK REPUBLIC DEY CREATE SENSELESS TRENDS UNA GO DEY RESPOND TO NONSENSE ARGUMENTS. UNA NO GET HANDWORK NI... ![]() THIS ISSUE OF IKWERRE THIS ...IKWERRE THAT DON TIER ME. IKWERRE BE IGBO OR NOT DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO IGBO NATION. IGBOS PLEASE MAKE UNA STOP GIVING THESE JOBLESS PEOPLE ATTENTION. GO TO ABUJA, LAGOS OR ANY PART OF THE WORLD, AN AVERAGE IGBO MAN DOES NOT GIVE A DIME ABOUT IKWERRE. THE WAY THEIR COOKED-UP HISTORY IS TODAY IS NOT THE WAY IT WAS DECADES AGO . THEY KEEP ON RE- WRITING THEIR HISTORY EVERY YEAR. NOW THEY HAVE MODIFY IT TO COLLIDE WITH EKPEYA HISTORY. NA ONLINE THESE JOBLESS HOLLIGANS DEY COME SEEK ATTENTION. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by 9japride(m): 6:30am On Jan 16, 2025 |
UKEMY:[color=#006600][/color] The way you guys reason dey shame person. So you believe a boundary created by humans like you is the final stay concerning one's identity? With this kind of your mindset, I am very sure if given political power you will cut of majority of the Igbo community. I keep using Gbaji tribe as an example, they are found in majority of the north central states same way Igbos are found in southern parts of Nigeria. I only blame ignorant Igbo speaking groups that will deny their identity. I believe a time will come when the Igbos will have a country of their own and all those who deny their identity will be cut off. Everything boils down to deep rooted envy and jealousy amongst people who are scared of Igbos. It's a black man thing, that's why most of the communities in Africa still looks like a jungle. Wickedness won't allow them to think, they will rather let an rot because it's not their state of origin. So if Benin empire conquer an area that was already existing with their own culture and language, so in your logic they then automatically become Benin? Even the with the 5 states, is still bigger than a lot of countries in the world. The eastern region is so rich in human capital, natural resources, etc. The tribe Igbos will live forever and stronger, so focus on their own tribe. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by UKEMY(m): 6:46am On Jan 16, 2025 |
9japride:The ikwerre's have distinctly said that they are not igbo's Igbo's should be contented with the 5 states Abakaliki people are even been discriminated against |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by 9japride(m): 7:30am On Jan 16, 2025 |
UKEMY:[color=#006600][/color] Your rant ends in nairaland, nobody cares about your opinion. Igbos are found everywhere in southern Nigeria. An Ikwerre person is now the president of Ohaneze Ndi Igbo. So relax. Maybe next will come from Edo, Kogi or Benue state |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by PaellaPaella: 7:48am On Jan 16, 2025 |
Gajagojo:No, it’s a Yoruba dialect, omo ofo🖕😆 |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Gajagojo: 8:00am On Jan 16, 2025 |
PaellaPaella:Iya re ko ni je ere re Ofo ni Iya re ma se ku |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by ElevationD: 12:17am On Jan 17, 2025 |
UKEMY:Mumu. When they say education is necessary, you will never know the reason. |
| Re: Iwhurohna Chiefs Issue A Communique Of Their Relationship With The Igbos. by Kreesxxx(op): 4:56am On Jan 17, 2025 |
Alphanancy:The language you speak as Igbo is a corrupted Ikwerre language. You stole the language on your arrival from wandering in the wilderness of Egypt and Israel. To prove to you that you stole the language what is Igbo word for 'Yes'? |
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