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Image123:
When God did in the Bible.

Quote the verse.

Truthseeker10:
Quote the verse.

If you ask me, who i go ask?

Image123:
If you ask me, who i go ask?

So you have no biblical knowledge of what you are teaching here? Na wa ooo......people will just come to nairaland and dump their imaginations for people to believe.

Truthseeker10:
So you have no biblical knowledge of what you are teaching here? Na wa ooo......people will just come to nairaland and dump their imaginations for people to believe.

Keep seeking, you will find.

Image123:
Keep seeking, you will find.

🤣🤣🤣I should keep seeking your imaginations abi? 🤣🤣

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣I should keep seeking your imaginations abi? 🤣🤣

Am i your source of knowledge?

Image123:
Am i your source of knowledge?

So where is the source of your own knowledge?

Truthseeker10:
So where is the source of your own knowledge?

None of your business na.

Image123:
None of your business na.

🤣🤣🤣

Queengee:
When I was young used to be very scared of hell especially when in church and the preacher narrated the horrors of hell, but now things have changed . I don't know maybe because eyes has seen many things in three decades of my existence, really don't get scared of hell fire anymore , anytime someone or pastors talk about it it sounds like every other takes to me, I think something is wrong with me, does anyone here now feel the same way ? Men of God in the house please how can I go back to my former self and start believing hell is real

believing hell is real won't save anyone.
Instead of believing hell is real, believe God and his son are real, repent and turn to them and believe in the kingdom of God.

The fear of God is what we need not to fear of hell, because the fear of hell will not save us but at least the fearful reverence towards God will give us wisdom that saves us, which is the gospel God's power and wisdom to save us.

So instead of going back to your former self why not take a step and become who God wants you to be in Christ because we can't save ourselves from hell even if we want to and try to, it's Jesus whom God sent that can save those God sends to him.

And if you are of God you don't need to be afraid of the coming judgement or hell do you? You will be built up and the gates of hell shall not prevail against you.

LordReed:
Because it isn't real and just a psychological trick to keep you invested in the religion. Islam has the threat of killing you, Christianity has the threat of hell, all in a bid to make sure you don't leave.

if police offers extorts from you by threatening you with jail does that mean jails and prisons arent real?

cc Queengee

danvon:
Because the very idea of hell is unrealistic...

Christianity is a slave religion, it was marketed for slaves who were suffering and being oppressed by their masters...

The slaves didn't have the strength or courage to physically fight back and free themselves, they couldn't take proper revenge, so they turned to psychological revenge...

That is how the idea of heaven and hell originated, the slaves would enjoy riches and power (they never had) in heaven while their oppressors would burn and scream in hell for all eternity.

Only a bitter, frustrated and petty soul would invent such a place.

Jesus himself forgave his enemies with his dying breath, that illustrates how noble Jesus was. He was very far from Christianity.

Is it okay that you psychologically and logically analyzed the origin of hell and heaven but leave out if not justice should exist or not.

You claim the idea of hell is unrealistic and you are right, your idea of hell is very unrealistic.

One you claim it was marketed to slaves? What then did those who "market" it to them gain? Loyal slaves? Do you think men are all fools because they suffer?


"The slaves didn't have the strength or courage to physically fight back and free themselves, they couldn't take proper revenge, so they turned to psychological revenge" this shows you lack knowledge of history, do you know how many times slaves has fought, how some have won and some have lost. Even at the heart of some of those victories were as a result of the very book called bible where the Christianity you mention as a slave religion actually brought liberation to a lot.

Now because people use the truth for a lie doesn't mean the truth is a lie, even common sense would tell you that.

While would, "Only a bitter, frustrated and petty soul would invent such a place."

It is only those who enjoy the benefits of oppression that would feel this way, why? Is it a crime to cry out for justice, to wish for it, to dream for it but you not only deny their cries but you call them bitter, frustrated and petty soul. Only a hopeless person in bondage can write such words as you have.

And though you claim such nonsense as it being a slave religion, you say Jesus forgave his enemies isn't that also the lie slave traders used to surpress the cries for justice.

And note Jesus didn't forgive his enemies, he forgave those who were ignorant. YHVH said seat till I crush all your enemies till they become your footstoll.

You think the Jews were forgiven go and read what Jesus said to them and what occured in 70AD, you think Judas was forgiven. How you seat and assume that punishment for wickedness is unrealistic can only come from a heart who is hopeless towards such and as sided with the benefits of wickedness

Nnamdipapa:
Pastors have used the same fear to enrich themselves.

Hell kor, hell ni.

If you like, continue living in bandage.

law enforcers have also used prison threats to enrich themselves but you who has never seen a prison does that mean it is not real.

gohf:
if police offers extorts from you by threatening you with jail does that mean jails and prisons arent real?

cc Queengee

How is this analogous to what I said?

Truthseeker10:
So you have no biblical knowledge of what you are teaching here? Na wa ooo......people will just come to nairaland and dump their imaginations for people to believe.

Thats the Image123 we know. A full blown delusional dude

gohf:
Is it okay that you psychologically and logically analyzed the origin of hell and heaven but leave out if not justice should exist or not.

What is justice? Justice is simply refined revenge, who ever has the power to take revenge is just.

gohf:
One you claim it was marketed to slaves? What then did those who "market" it to them gain? Loyal slaves? Do you think men are all fools because they suffer?

Those who marketed the idea were usually slaves themselves, but they were more smarter, more energetic, more proud, more wicked, they had more 'master' than 'slave' in them

What do pastors and priests gain by preaching to their congregation? They gain wealth through tithes, offerings and donations, they also gain power through mobilization of the mob, they can then unleash this power against the rulers if those rulers do not give them their dues.

gohf:
this shows you lack knowledge of history, do you know how many times slaves has fought, how some have won and some have lost. Even at the heart of some of those victories were as a result of the very book called bible where the Christianity you mention as a slave religion actually brought liberation to a lot.

Slaves have been revolting before the time of Spartacus, however in all cases where the slaves actually won and got freedom, they always resorted to the same cruelty, tactics and ruthlessness they condemned their masters of doing, because heaven and hell was simply psychological warfare to them.

gohf:
Is it a crime to cry out for justice, to wish for it, to dream for it but you not only deny their cries but you call them bitter, frustrated and petty soul. Only a hopeless person in bondage can write such words as you have.

Justice is simply refined revenge, it doesn't exist in the real world, all forms of judgement are always and will always be unfair and tilted to one side (the side that has proven it can take revenge), the wicked evil masters were probably considered 'just' and 'good' in their society. If the slaves cannot accept this reality they have the option to commit suicide, creating a fictional universe and turning every master into 'evil' is too far, and only a petty mind would go there.

gohf:
And though you claim such nonsense as it being a slave religion, you say Jesus forgave his enemies isn't that also the lie slave traders used to surpress the cries for justice.

.And note Jesus didn't forgive his enemies, he forgave those who were ignorant. YHVH said seat till I crush all your enemies till they become your footstoll.

Jesus clearly taught to 'love your enemies', 'do not judge' but it's interesting how you distort his teachings to fulfill your vengeful fantasies, you proved my point.

jaephoenix:
Thats the Image123 we know. A full blown delusional dude

You somehow seek my attention?

Your brain don mature😂

Image123:
You somehow seek my attention?

And how much would your attention bring to my pocket?

jaephoenix:
And how much would your attention bring to my pocket?

10naira, it's a good bargain. Take it.

You better believe back.

It's no joke. It's from Eternity to Eternity.

God will not pity anyone because of status.

Our prayers is that God should keep us and make us worthy of His glorious kingdom in Jesus name

Hell fire is not in the Bible

Dtruthspeaker:
What a fallacious response.

So as govt have the threat of throwing you in prison, or your boss has the threat of sacking you, they are not real, right?

We have seen people actually killed and sacked by the governments and our boss, so we know it is real. But we have not seen people thrown to hell or put in heaven, so it is safe to assert that it is not real pending the time that your gods will prove it otherwise.

Queengee:
When I was young, I used to be very scared of hell especially when in church and the preacher narrated the horrors of hell, but now things have changed.

I don't know maybe because eyes has seen many things in three decades of my existence, really don't get scared of hell fire anymore.

Anytime someone or pastors talk about it, it sounds like every other takes to me, I think something is wrong with me, does anyone here now feel the same way?

Men of God in the house please how can I go back to my former self and start believing hell is real?

The reason is simple... As a Nigerian, your soul is already perfecting his adaptation process as Nigeria is a perfect ground on earth to stimulate the conditions of Hell.. So rejoice my brother

Which other hell is more than Nigeria, you have seen every shege from childhood to adulthood, what else should a grown naija man fear again?

Because Satan don build house for your mind!

If you have lived in Nigeria all your life, then you have been codedly living in same hell. Nothing to fear again

If you read the bible carefully you’ll realize God made everyone with white Garments and everyone name was written in the book of life..

But you could lose that garments

To unbelievers there’s a number of times people will come to preach the gospel to you, if you reject those numbers of times you lose,

To believers you must go through tribulations and trials if you lose you get blot out from the book of life..

When you lose that time you lose permanently and the beasts take charge completely.

It’s there in Revelation 3: 3-5…


The bible said Guide your Salvation with Fear and Trembling

You frown on a teacher beating a child but somehow you're ok with burning someone for all eternity.


The exceptions we make for God and religion are insane

Just like the parable, your heart is now like a rock, no seed can grow on it anymore.
That kind of heart is developed over time by indulging in so many sins , to the point that sin has become habitual in your life. It no longer moves you.

My advice to you is to visit the psychiatric hospital.

Kobojunkie:
unconsciously, you have realized and accepted the lie only consciously you may not have acknowledged it. That is pretty my much the story with most religious people if you ask me. I bet when you were younger, you would scold yourself harshly for sinning but as time went by you began believing rather that your sins were specially pardon by your deity as opposed to the sins of others. You also probably began also believing that those who sinned against you, --- even if the same sins you may have yourself committed against others --would always get punished severely by your deity.

Receive nukes. What shall it profit a junk to suffer in Nigeria and in hell?