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Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by frank317: 7:21pm On Jan 13, 2025
Merry100:
Whether you consider it a miracle or not, it doesn't matter. What truly matters is that a friend was saved.

I am not a pastor; I'm just someone who values logic and shares my perspective. I wouldn't accept the existence of God either if I were not personally convinced. Reflecting on all the struggles I have been through, I might have also become an atheist a long time ago.

My personal conviction led me to study the Bible more deeply. In doing so, I discovered many misquotes and misinterpretations, even from some pastors, that can mislead people away from Christ. I realized that if we come to God with the expectation that everything will go our way, we may become disheartened when challenges arise. I've learned the importance of holding on to God, regardless of the circumstances we face.

I rarely dream about myself; instead, I often dream about other people, even those I am not close to, and events I know nothing about. Sometimes, I start to feel sleepy and dizzy, as if I were under the influence of alcohol. Within 30 seconds, I find myself falling asleep against my will and entering a dream state. In those dreams, I often see something about someone. If it feels like a warning, I usually make an effort to warn the person it is directed at, because such dreams tend to come true.

Along with my own personal experiences, the fact that scientists have still not been able to create life from non-life in a laboratory, despite years of research and study, has made me realize that there is a higher power in control.
Josephine the dreamer, any dream about nigeria yet? With this ur dream power, I hope no one around u is suffering or can meet any misfortune
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Biggeststar01: 8:47pm On Jan 13, 2025
Krismas:
grin grin Atheists? They know only little part of the jigsaw.
Point is, evolution does not have all the answers. They have never been able to find the missing link and they will never. There was an evolutionary leap leading up to human, that is inexplicable with the laws of Natural selection.
Maybe we dwell on this for a bit, b4 i drop the next points?
And you suppose “god” is the answer?
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Merry100(op):
frank317:
Josephine the dreamer, any dream about nigeria yet? With this ur dream power, I hope no one around u is suffering or can meet any misfortune
Mini cockroach, little pest. Christianity doesn’t turn people into superheroes. Becoming a Christian won’t transform you into figures like Flash, Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, or any other fictional character.

I simply shared some of the experiences that shaped my perspective and personal conviction. You can either take it or leave it.
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Krismas(m): 8:58pm On Jan 13, 2025
Biggeststar01:
And you suppose “god” is the answer?
grin ''god''?
What is ''god''?
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Semaj77(m): 10:50pm On Jan 13, 2025
Electorate:
Just imagine, did I mention any book you should or something is obviously missing in your skull?
Check your own brain first nitwit , I'm only responding to your own idiocy about a book. I only talked about testable evidence and you brought up a "book" , brain dead cretin
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Electorate: 7:54am On Jan 14, 2025
Semaj77:
Check your own brain first nitwit , I'm only responding to your own idiocy about a book. I only talked about testable evidence and you brought up a "book" , brain dead cretin
You are obviously brain dead or ran away from a psychiatric hospital.

Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by jaephoenix(m): 9:59pm On Jan 15, 2025
Krismas:
grin I remember u told me earlier that u are a Unicorn grin
I saw another post u called urself a physician with spine ache?
And i think to myself, u are in d wrong profession.
U should be a theologian or so.
Cos u have passionately been debating religion since yesterday!
But i still think u are only one of the SIX BLIND MEN OF INDOSTAN,
WHO WENT TO SEE THE ELEPHANT grin
Question now is, if u know the story?
So its only theological that debate in the religion section? angry
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by jaephoenix(m): 10:01pm On Jan 15, 2025
Krismas:
grin First of, i will like to acquaint u with Zoologist Ivanov.
Who illustriously created the Zeedonk.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-russian-government-once-funded-a-scientists-quest-to-make-an-ape-human-hybrid-5043859/

Have you ever heard of Zeedonk?
Yes. What about it
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by jaephoenix(m): 10:02pm On Jan 15, 2025
budaatum:
I'm no physician, and unfortunately caught mine in my village which caused many to assume "village people".

Turned out I'd stupidly self-inflicted myself with spinal schistosomiasis caught from swimming in the beautiful enticing lake by my farm land that I ignorantly didn't know was infested during the drier months of the year.

I thank the amazingly dedicated physicians at Lewisham Hospital and King's Hospital and the Hospital For Tropical Diseases who worked day and night to get me back on my two feet. There was no way I could have afforded the amazing care I got, and neither could I claim I deserved it.
Looks like you're in the UK. Lots of good spinal surgeons on the NHS. I'll be coming over there soon
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by jaephoenix(m): 10:03pm On Jan 15, 2025
Padipadi:
Define smartness. About miracles, it's based on faith. Whatever you're told with this handle is based on faith.
So its not based on reality then, good. Continue in your faith delusion
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by jaephoenix(m): 10:04pm On Jan 15, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
If you had any brain at all you would have known that when I and the other guy were talking, we were referring to the relationship as seen here in Nairaland . For we all know everyone has relationships offline for that is even the first place relationships are formed before people start meeting themselves online.

Everyone with a brain knows that but you never ever know anything, Stupid slowpoke.
Keep to your psychotic views. I'm done
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by jaephoenix(m): 10:05pm On Jan 15, 2025
Electorate:
You are obviously brain dead or ran away from a psychiatric hospital.
I agree with him. You're bringing dead like many christians
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Electorate: 10:25pm On Jan 15, 2025
jaephoenix:
I agree with him. You're bringing dead like many christians
Good to admit you also ran away from the psychiatric hospital, your healing is near if you keep admitting that you are indeed brain dead.

Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Krismas(m):
jaephoenix:
So its only theological that debate in the religion section? angry
grin Not at all.
I only mean, ur passion for theological matters,
can fetch u more income, should u make of it a profession grin
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by budaatum: 11:15pm On Jan 15, 2025
jaephoenix:
Looks like you're in the UK. Lots of good spinal surgeons on the NHS. I'll be coming over there soon
Yes, I am. Their dedication is godly and their miracles profound.

Where are you? What you coming for?
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by budaatum: 11:21pm On Jan 15, 2025
Semaj77:
You mean I should read a book written by some goat herding mongrel from the middle East who thought they were being talked to by a supreme being but didn't realize they were just going nuts ? Never , my common sense which sadly isn't common is just enough grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
angry angry Actually, you should read it.

It, unfortunately, being the first book our Nigerian ancestors learnt to read, every Nigerian should read the Bible and the Quran too, and Things Fall Apart and Fela Anikulapo and Soyinka etc, because you got to know the crap you they fed you to wean yourself off it.
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Krismas(m): 11:21pm On Jan 15, 2025
jaephoenix:
Yes. What about it
grin Good!
Ivanov set out to validate Darwin's theory but inadvertently ended up disproving it. grin
All his experiments ended in tragic failures.
Interesting thing about it all is dat
This was the same man who had demonstrated Darwin b4, by creating an animal from the cross of a Zebra with a Donkey.
Which he called Zedonk.
However, crossing a MAN with a HUMAN yielded zero results.
So, 2 quick questions
1. why do people still think we are related to primates?
2. Do u suppose Zedonk is related to Zebra or Donkey?
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 7:03am On Jan 16, 2025
jaephoenix:
So its not based on reality then, good. Continue in your faith delusion
You go explain tire because you no fit win faith based ethics in any court. That is why you should meshiønu on religious matters.
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Dtruthspeaker: 2:48pm On Jan 16, 2025
jaephoenix:
Keep to your psychotic views. I'm done
Says the fool who could not keep his foolishness away and always waiting to be shown how stupid he is first before he real eyeses that he should think before speaking or best still,shut the fvck up. Fool!
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by LordReed(m): 8:18am On Jan 17, 2025
Merry100:
The miracle I shared with my friend:

In 2022, I booked my flight ticket from the UK to Nigeria through an agent who was introduced to me. Although I preferred to book my flight online, I decided to patronize her. A day before my scheduled flight, she called me and informed me that my ticket had been cancelled.

I was so worked up because I had already made arrangements for the trip, and everyone knew I was leaving tomorrow; in fact, an Uber was already booked to take me to the airport. I had already spent money buying various things, so the news came to me as a painful shock. I went online to look for cheap tickets, but I couldn't find any. So, I just knelt down and prayed to God.

I told God that if this is the last thing He does for me, He should just do it. I didn't want to tell anyone about it because it might seem to them like I was stylishly asking for funds.

The deal day eventually came, and I had no ticket. I was sitting in the car heading toward the airport, scrolling through the website of the agency I preferred to book my flight from and refreshing the page from time to time.

About an hour before my arrival at the airport, I came across a very cheap ticket. With quick fingers, I booked it instantly. I don't know why the ticket was so cheap; it is possible there were available seats on the plane, so they decided to reduce the price, or someone called to cancel their ticket. But the important thing is that it was indeed a miracle for me.
This is a miracle? Bwahahahahahaha!
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by LordReed(m): 8:22am On Jan 17, 2025
Krismas:
grin Good!
Ivanov set out to validate Darwin's theory but inadvertently ended up disproving it. grin
All his experiments ended in tragic failures.
Interesting thing about it all is dat
This was the same man who had demonstrated Darwin b4, by creating an animal from the cross of a Zebra with a Donkey.
Which he called Zedonk.
However, crossing a MAN with a HUMAN yielded zero results.
So, 2 quick questions
1. why do people still think we are related to primates?
2. Do u suppose Zedonk is related to Zebra or Donkey?
Tell me you don't understand the theory of evolution without telling me.

1. DNA

2. Evolution is not artifical crossbreeding of species. Zedonk did not evolve, it was crossbred but yes it is related to both.
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Krismas(m):
LordReed:
Tell me you don't understand the theory of evolution without telling me.

1. DNA

2. Evolution is not artifical crossbreeding of species. Zedonk did not evolve, it was crossbred but yes it is related to both.
grin Interesting!

1. Keep in mind, that evolution teaches the Genus structure, which is supposed to be home to species of similar DNA patterns.
If this is true, then every specie in a given Genus are cousins to one another and thus should be able to produce successful crossbreeds

2. Ofcourse evolution is not crossbreeding grin
So, should a male Zedonk mate a female Zedonk, what do you think their offspring would look like?
Donkey? Zebra?
I mean, what do you mean Zedonk is related to its parents?
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by LordReed(m): 1:12pm On Jan 17, 2025
Krismas:
grin Interesting!

1. Keep in mind, that evolution teaches the Genus structure, which is supposed to be home to species of similar DNA patterns.
If this is true, then every specie in a given Genus are cousins to one another and thus should be able to produce successful crossbreeds

2. Ofcourse evolution is not crossbreeding grin
So, should a male Zedonk mate a female Zedonk, what do you think their offspring would look like?
Donkey? Zebra?
I mean, what do you mean Zedonk is related to its parents?
1. Kindly quote the section of the ToE that says every specie in a given Genus are cousins to one another and thus should be able to produce successful crossbreeds.

2. Wait, you need me to explain the relationship of parent and offspring to you?
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Krismas(m): 2:51pm On Jan 17, 2025
LordReed:
1. Kindly quote the section of the ToE that says every specie in a given Genus are cousins to one another and thus should be able to produce successful crossbreeds.

2. Wait, you need me to explain the relationship of parent and offspring to you?
grin In all honesty, i am unaware ToE has sections?

Notwithstanding

1. A Genus is supposed to be be a family name, consisting of sub-families. There has to be some form of relationship btw the sub-families within that family? Call it what u choose, cousin, brother nephew or niece. No matter.
Then, the success of crossbreeds within genus, is hardly contestable. Its evident in several hybrid animals alive today.
Among which, is Zedonk grin

2. Yes grin
I will be relieved if u could help me with that info.
Cos the last i checked, crossbreeds can never reproduce themselves.
If u want Zedonk, it only has to come by cross and cross alone.
Zedonk looks neither like a zebra nor like a donkey and probably doesn't even behave like them.
So i need u to explain to me. grin
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by LordReed(m): 3:13pm On Jan 17, 2025
Krismas:
grin In all honesty, i am unaware ToE has sections?

Notwithstanding

1. A Genus is supposed to be be a family name, consisting of sub-families. There has to be some form of relationship btw the sub-families within that family? Call it what u choose, cousin, brother nephew or niece. No matter.
Then, the success of crossbreeds within genus, is hardly contestable. Its evident in several hybrid animals alive today.
Among which, is Zedonk grin

2. Yes grin
I will be relieved if u could help me with that info.
Cos the last i checked, crossbreeds can never reproduce themselves.
If u want Zedonk, it only has to come by cross and cross alone.
Zedonk looks neither like a zebra nor like a donkey and probably doesn't even behave like them.
So i need u to explain to me. grin
1. Yes it has sections. Quote where the theory states that every specie in a given Genus are cousins to one another and thus should be able to produce successful crossbreeds. Quote any part of the ToE that says this.

2. A father or mother; one who begets or one who gives birth to ... a child.
An organism (plant or animal) from which younger ones are obtained
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/parent

Biological parents: The biological parents are the father and mother who provide the child's DNA.
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Krismas(m): 3:42pm On Jan 17, 2025
LordReed:
1. Yes it has sections. Quote where the theory states that says every specie in a given Genus are cousins to one another and thus should be able to produce successful crossbreeds. Quote any part of the ToE that says this.

2. A father or mother; one who begets or one who gives birth to ... a child.
An organism (plant or animal) from which younger ones are obtained
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/parent

Biological parents: The biological parents are the father and mother who provide the child's DNA.
grin Good

1. Nice to know, u know the sections of ToE, so, u are in d best position to answer ur question.
Zedonk is sufficient 4me, as proof that members of a genus can mate to produce a surviving offspring

2. Alright, why don't u try PARENT btw two different Genus?
I have seen a Ship, that was raped by a man, give birth, to a twisted being,
who died upon delivery.
The DNA of Zedonk is neither Zebra nor Donkey. U don't have the DNA of ur parents.
Zedonk cannot produce Zedonk.


Pls sir, i will like u to clarify ur position in relation to d debate.
The gentlemen i started this talk with believed humans came from evolution.
And rejected creation. So, my debates have consistently attempted to show the limitations of evolution.
What is ur own believe?
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by LordReed(m): 4:03pm On Jan 17, 2025
Krismas:
grin Good

1. Nice to know, u know the sections of ToE, so, u are in d best position to answer ur question.
Zedonk is sufficient 4me, as proof that members of a genus can mate to produce a surviving offspring

2. Alright, why don't u try PARENT btw two different Genus?
I have seen a Ship, that was raped by a man, give birth, to a twisted being,
who died upon delivery.
The DNA of Zedonk is neither Zebra nor Donkey. U don't have the DNA of ur parents.
Zedonk cannot produce Zedonk.


Pls sir, i will like u to clarify ur position in relation to d debate.
The gentlemen i started this talk with believed humans came from evolution.
And rejected creation. So, my debates have consistently attempted to show the limitations of evolution.
What is ur own believe?
1. Ok so you just said something the ToE doesn't not state or imply.

2. You don't know that you carry your parents DNA?

Verdict: You don't know anything about the ToE or genetics.

You must be trolling.
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Krismas(m): 4:14pm On Jan 17, 2025
LordReed:
1. Ok so you just said something the ToE doesn't not state or imply.

2. You don't know that you carry your parents DNA?

Verdict: You don't know anything about the ToE or genetics.

You must be trolling.
grin Ur verdict is entirely ur responsibility. I honestly don't care.

1. I was honest from start. I don't know ToE even has sections.

2. DNA is unique in every human. No two is alike.

What do u believe? Else, don't take offence if i fail to respond
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by LordReed(m): 4:54pm On Jan 17, 2025
Krismas:
grin Ur verdict is entirely ur responsibility. I honestly don't care.

1. I was honest from start. I don't know ToE even has sections.

2. DNA is unique in every human. No two is alike.

What do u believe? Else, don't take offence if i fail to respond
Good that you acknowledge that you don't know what the ToE is about. Like I told you previously it has nothing to do with crossbreeding so your zedonk example has nothing to do with the ToE.

DNA is passed on from parent to child, that is why you can do a paternity test.

I do not believe things. I accept facts. The ToE is an established fact.
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by Krismas(m):
LordReed:
Good that you acknowledge that you don't know what the ToE is about. Like I told you previously it has nothing to do with crossbreeding so your zedonk example has nothing to do with the ToE.

DNA is passed on from parent to child, that is why you can do a paternity test.

I do not believe things. I accept facts. The ToE is an established fact.
grin Paternity test does not reduce the fact that DNA is entirely unique to each and every individual. Perhaps the test helps to establish from who's DNA,
the child's own DNA was produced, who cares?
DNA is like fingerprints, entirely personal.
So, humans only have the DNA of humans, regardless of individuality.
There is something known as DNA of HUMANS.
Zedonk, neither has the DNA of Donkey nor dat of Zebra.

Crossbreeding has nothing to do wit evolution? But can u crossbreed different genus?
What is the name of any crossbred animal across genus, alive today?
This is why minotaur exist only in myths.
Crossbreeding is proof of evolution.

U have no facts. Just meaningless dubious reasoning, useless in the context of this debate.
Re: How I Saved A Friend From Becoming An Atheist by LordReed(m): 7:06pm On Jan 17, 2025
Krismas:
grin Paternity test does not reduce the fact that DNA is entirely unique to each and every individual. Perhaps the test helps to establish from who's DNA,
the child's own DNA was produced, who cares?
DNA is like fingerprints, entirely personal.
So, humans only have the DNA of humans, regardless of individuality.
There is something known as DNA of HUMANS.
Zedonk, neither has the DNA of Donkey nor dat of Zebra.

Crossbreeding has nothing to do wit evolution? But can u crossbreed different genus?
What is the name of any crossbred animal across genus, alive today?
This is why minotaur exist only in myths.
Crossbreeding is proof of evolution.

U have no facts. Just meaningless dubious reasoning, useless in the context of this debate.
LoLz. It's a troll.

Bye.
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