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Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by UncleAyo(op):
Believers in God’s existence often cite the complexity of nature—such as the intricate design of the human eye—as evidence of Intelligent Design (ID). They argue that such sophisticated structures must be the result of a purposeful plan, conceived and executed by a divine creator.

Let’s assume for a moment that these complex forms cannot be adequately explained by evolutionary processes alone. If that’s the case, the God who created such extraordinary complexity must Himself be unimaginably complex. And complexity, by this reasoning, does not simply arise by chance.

This leads to an important question: Who created God? If all complex existences require a designer, wouldn’t the creator of the sun, stars, and all things need an even greater designer?

Mr. sterope (my good friend), your contributions will also be great here. You're invited.

I want to learn ni o. Somebody should please educate me.

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Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by EmperorIsaac(m): 7:33pm On Jan 14, 2025
God created God!
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Kobojunkie: 7:37pm On Jan 14, 2025
UncleAyo:
➜Believers in God's existence usually site the complexity of nature (e.g the structure of the eyes) as evidence (of Intelligent Design ID) to show that there must be a god who plan, design and create this intricate organs.
Let agree for a minute that truly, those complex structures cannot be arrive at with just evolutionary explanations.
The God who create these complex form must be himself very very very complex himself and not happen just by chance. My Question Is, Who Created God?
Imagine how complex the one that created the sun and the stars will be.
Mr. sterope (my good friend), your contributions will also be great here. You're invited.
I want to learn ni o. Somebody should please educate me.
Who created the one who created this God you ask of and so on?😏
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by sonmvayina(m): 8:12pm On Jan 14, 2025
Foolish Humans did...

And they met other dummy humans and created religion.
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Lucifyre: 8:59pm On Jan 14, 2025
Man made god(s) in his image, likeness and thoughts ergo you have god(s) having anthropomorphic features. There's no way for those who claim an opposite stance to hold that stance without resorting to the overly flogged special pleading & infinite regress conundrums.
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Steep(m): 9:13pm On Jan 14, 2025
UncleAyo:
Believers in God's existence usually site the complexity of nature (e.g the structure of the eyes) as evidence (of Intelligent Design ID) to show that there must be a god who plan, design and create this intricate (organs) existence forms.

Let agree for a minute that truly, those complex structures cannot be arrive at with just evolutionary explanations.

The God who create these complex form must be himself very very very complex himself and not happen just by chance. My Question Is, Who Created God?

Imagine how complex the one that created the sun and stars will be.

Mr. sterope (my good friend), your contributions will also be great here. You're invited.

I want to learn ni o. Somebody should please educate me.
That is a foolish question how can you ask who created a being that is eternal.
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by thesicilian: 9:23pm On Jan 14, 2025
God is the only One that can answer that question.
You should pray to die soon so that you can meet Him face to face and ask.
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Nobody: 9:50pm On Jan 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
Foolish Humans did...

And they met other dummy humans and created religion.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
If you're an atheist, shebi you are a little bit kind?
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Sterope(f): 9:15am On Jan 15, 2025
They were very foolish people



Steep:
That is a foolish question how can you ask who created a being that is eternal.
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:03pm On Jan 15, 2025
UncleAyo:
Let’s assume for a moment that these complex forms cannot be adequately explained by evolutionary processes alone. If that’s the case, the God who created such extraordinary complexity must Himself be unimaginably complex. And complexity, by this reasoning, does not simply arise by chance.

This leads to an important question: Who created God? If all complex existences require a designer, wouldn’t the creator of the sun, stars, and all things need an even greater designer?
Objection!

Fallacy.

This is a presumptive question and a question borne out of the pre judgement that God is created and creatable.

Whereas there is no evidence why the op would come to such an opinion
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:06pm On Jan 15, 2025
Lucifyre:
Man made god(s) in his image, likeness and thoughts ergo you have god(s) having anthropomorphic features. There's no way for those who claim an opposite stance to hold that stance without resorting to the overly flogged special pleading & infinite regress conundrums.
The question is already wrong, invalid and fallacious.
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by jaephoenix(m): 3:30pm On Jan 15, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Objection!

Fallacy.

This is a presumptive question and a question borne out of the pre judgement that God is created and creatable.

Whereas there is no evidence why the op would come to such an opinion
You are denser than dense.
The OP stated that religionists assume that the exquisite design of the universe must require a creator and thus since the creator is exquisite, then it must require a creator.
He also stated that theists claim god is eternal and thus not created.
The above premises point to a fallacy: Special Pleading
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:56pm On Jan 15, 2025
jaephoenix:
You are denser than dense.
The OP stated that religionists assume that the exquisite design of the universe must require a creator and thus since the creator is exquisite, then it must require a creator.
He also stated that theists claim god is eternal and thus not created.
The above premises point to a fallacy: Special Pleading
Please try resist the temptation to be stupid this year. I am tired of pointing out that you are too stupid to speak and obviously, stupidity is your character. So we just have to live with it.

Yes the op said all these things but clearly we can see his interest is in the creation of God part, which is clearly "PRESUMPTIVE"as the header of the thread clearly states.
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Kingsempires(m): 4:08pm On Jan 15, 2025
sonmvayina:
Foolish Humans did...

And they met other dummy humans and created religion.
hmmmm 🤔 I don't understand you
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Kingsempires(m): 4:08pm On Jan 15, 2025
Kobojunkie:
Who created the one who created this God you ask of and so on?😏
this is what we call question upon question
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:18pm On Jan 15, 2025
Kingsempires:
hmmmm 🤔 I don't understand you
Are you trying to understand Madness? Do you not see that he is Mad?
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Kingsempires(m): 4:21pm On Jan 15, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Are you trying to understand Madness? Do you not see that he is Mad?
if he is trying to use that logic then how did man come to existences ? cheesy
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by sonmvayina(m): 7:55pm On Jan 15, 2025
Kingsempires:
hmmmm 🤔 I don't understand you
All those who worshipped Zeus are dead....and as such the god has died...

Only the woke know that God is within...
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by jaephoenix(m): 10:30pm On Jan 15, 2025
Kingsempires:
if he is trying to use that logic then how did man come to existences ? cheesy
We dont know and if you say you do, then show me evidence.
Its okay not to know everything because I know in due time we'll know it via science
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Creativeseeker1(m): 11:12pm On Jan 15, 2025
If you later find the answer,tell us ,as for now
God is the uncreated creator.
The creator that was never created but exists infinitely like the infinity depth of the galaxy
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Lucifyre:
Dtruthspeaker:
The question is already wrong, invalid and fallacious.
I agree cause it's not even been demonstrated a god exists.
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Kingsempires(m): 8:20am On Jan 16, 2025
jaephoenix:
We dont know and if you say you do, then show me evidence.
Its okay not to know everything because I know in due time we'll know it via science
look at what your fellow atheist said ;


Kobojunkie:
Who created the one who created this God you ask of and so on?😏
Then I now said if he is using this logical to prove he self there is no God then how did human being come to existence?
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Kingsempires(m): 8:22am On Jan 16, 2025
sonmvayina:
All those who worshipped Zeus are dead....and as such the god has died...

Only the woke know that God is within...
I don't even Get your point. Do you agree that God exist or not?
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by sonmvayina(m): 8:35am On Jan 16, 2025
Kingsempires:
I don't even Get your point. Do you agree that God exist or not?
He is within us...

God is the universal divine consciousness..not a Jewish man up in the sky.
He has different names by different cultures...
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:43pm On Jan 16, 2025
Lucifyre:
I agree cause it's not even be been demonstrated a god exists.
You lie here for he shifted post to ask this invalid question because God is already proven to exist.
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Kingsempires(m): 3:38pm On Jan 16, 2025
sonmvayina:
He is within us...

God is the universal divine consciousness..not a Jewish man up in the sky.
He has different names by different cultures...
thank God you believe that God exist. And as for the Jewish man you said that's up in the sky, that is left for you whether to believe him or not smiley
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by sonmvayina(m): 3:49pm On Jan 16, 2025
Kingsempires:
thank God you believe that God exist. And as for the Jewish man you said that's up in the sky, that is left for you whether to believe him or not smiley
I know there is no Jewish man up in the sky...
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Kingsempires(m): 5:17pm On Jan 16, 2025
sonmvayina:
I know there is no Jewish man up in the sky...
ok have a hand shake, congratulations 👍👏👏👏
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by jaephoenix(m): 5:19pm On Jan 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
You lie here for he shifted post to ask this invalid question because God is already proven to exist.
What was the proof
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by jaephoenix(m): 5:22pm On Jan 16, 2025
Kingsempires:
look at what your fellow atheist said ;





Then I now said if he is using this logical to prove he self there is no God then how did human being come to existence?
Junkie isn't an atheist
Btw who created god?
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Kobojunkie: 5:26pm On Jan 16, 2025
Kingsempires:
➜look at what your fellow atheist said ; Then I now said if he is using this logical to prove he self there is no God then how did human being come to existence?
I am not an atheist; however, I am anti-religion — no connection with any of the many religious gods out there. undecided
Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by Kingsempires(m): 5:31pm On Jan 16, 2025
Kobojunkie:
I am not an atheist; however, I am anti-religion — no connection with any of the many religious gods out there. undecided
but you don't believe God exist?
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