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Kingsempires:
➜but you don't believe God exist?

Are you certain you understand what it means not to be an atheist? The fact that I stated that I am NOT an atheist means I believe in at least one of the over 4000 known deities.

jaephoenix:
Junkie isn't an atheist
Btw who created god?

God was not Created, he doesn't have a beginning or an end the is the only answer I can give you.

Kobojunkie:
Are you certain you understand what it means not to be an atheist? The fact that I stated that I am NOT an atheist means I believe in at least one of the over 4000 known deities.

ok I heard you

jaephoenix:
What was the proof

Not one proof but many different proofs given by people all landing on the fact that nothing in this world created itself, nor are they capable of creating themselves from nothingness into existence.

AND THIS IS A FACT EVERYONE, INCLUDING YOU ATHEISTS EVEN CONFIRM AND DO NOT DENY

Hence why the op said
"They argue that such sophisticated structures must be the result of a purposeful plan, conceived and executed by a divine creator."

And till tomorrow no atheists has been able to validly show and prove that this fact is not true.

And all arguments made in opposition are purely suggestive personal and private conjectures and fabrications created only for the purposes of arguments

Nor do they show any alternative established fact which reasonably and validly rebuts this settled fact. EXACTLY HOW AN ACCUSED SHOWN AND PROVEN BY EVIDENCE THAT HE COMMITTED A CRIME HAS THE DUTY AND BURDEN OF SHOWING AND PROVING BY REASONABLE ACCEPTABLE LAWFUL REBUTTIVE EVIDENCE THAT SHE DID NOT.

ABSENCE/FAILURE TO DO SO, IS CLEAR PROOF THAT HE IS GUILTY OF THE CRIME PROVEN Like the security guy accused of robbery who was given N100k by the robbers, yet he denies not being part of the robbery.

https://www.nairaland.com/8268329/how-lagos-high-court-sentenced#132895170

When his case came up no one believed him especially as he could not rebut the evidence pointing at him, despite his denial. And see even though people are trying to help him he still stands judged and guilty.

Unless they find reasonable rebutting evidence, he remains held by the evidence which ties him to the crime

So it is when you atheists try to argue against the solid proof of God.

All evidence point to the fact that this world was created by A Great Super Intelligent Living Person exactly how man has done and no other thing in this world whether plant or animals or insect or fish or bacteria or virus have created so beautifully and diversely like man, so also That Great Being called God has done like man.

And since man did not create himself, therefore it is man who is doing like His Creator,God.

So until you people have a reasonable and rebuttive established evidence, you people have nothing and the standing Proofs of God Remain the Final Judgement on this matter.

Dtruthspeaker:
You lie here for he shifted post to ask this invalid question because God is already proven to exist.

which god has been proven to exist and where is this proof of the existence of the particular god you talk about?

Kingsempires:
God was not Created, he doesn't have a beginning or an end the is the only answer I can give you.

What if I tell you the universe wasn't created, and neither has a beginning nor end

UncleAyo:
Believers in God’s existence often cite the complexity of nature—such as the intricate design of the human eye—as evidence of Intelligent Design (ID). They argue that such sophisticated structures must be the result of a purposeful plan, conceived and executed by a divine creator.

Let’s assume for a moment that these complex forms cannot be adequately explained by evolutionary processes alone. If that’s the case, the God who created such extraordinary complexity must Himself be unimaginably complex. And complexity, by this reasoning, does not simply arise by chance.

This leads to an important question: Who created God? If all complex existences require a designer, wouldn’t the creator of the sun, stars, and all things need an even greater designer?

_{Mr. sterope (my good friend), your contributions will also be great here. You're invited.}

I want to learn ni o. Somebody should please educate me.

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Your question is related to time. What U asking is simply what time was God created?

God exist outside of time. Time is a dimension used to measure onset and exit of matter i.e measurement of past, present and future.

God exist outside of this dimension.

Lucifyre:
which god has been proven to exist and where is this proof of the existence of the particular god you talk about?

As there is only one Toyoda who created the Toyota and only one landlord created a house, so also is there only one God Whom everyone is talking about!

jaephoenix:
What if I tell you the universe wasn't created, and neither has a beginning nor end

then use that same logic to understand that God wasn't created.

Dtruthspeaker:
As there is only one Toyoda who created the Toyota and only one landlord created a house, so also is there only one God Whom everyone is talking about!

Yes yes, i agree Toyoda to Toyota, Benz & Daimer to Benz, Porshe to Porsche, Horche to Audi, so which of em, there have been 10,000+ gods identified through anthropology, which of em and how do you demonstrate that particular one😌

Lucifyre:
Yes yes, i agree Toyoda to Toyota, Benz & Daimer to Benz, Porshe to Porsche, Horche to Audi, so which of em, there have been 10,000+ gods identified through anthropology, which of em and how do you demonstrate that particular one😌

Since you agree then you can see that, it is only one creator each creation has.

So no one is looking for 1000 gods but only ONE GOD!

Dtruthspeaker:
Since you agree then you can see that, it is only one creator each creation has.

So no one is looking for 1000 gods but only ONE GOD!

Its obvious the sacarsm went right over your head as usual, in your flawed analogy you highlighted the manufacturer of a particular car of which i showed you manufacturers of various cars, some even two manufacturers. I took you ur analogy further to highlight how flawed it is and painted the actual reality. So obvioulsy u have no evidence for this your particular god ergo go around in circles. Not like any of the other gods can be demonstrated either. End of story.

Lucifyre:
Its obvious the sacarsm went right over your head as usual, in your flawed analogy you highlighted the manufacturer of a particular car of which i showed you manufacturers of various cars, some even two manufacturers. I took you ur analogy further to highlight how flawed it is and painted the actual reality. So obvioulsy u have no evidence for this your particular god ergo go around in circles. Not like any of the other gods can be demonstrated either. End of story.

Look at your words. You yourself have given evidence admiting that most creations have only ONE creator and quite an exceptional few have 2.

No where do you show creations having even 5 creations not to talk of 10 or 100 or thousands.

And then you forget like your alignment shows creations and their creators are generally attached and named.

And no where do you see 2 God's laying claim and ownership over us as you yourself confirm by your statement "Not like any of the other gods can be demonstrated either." But only ONE GOD has been identified.

So you prove my case.

Dtruthspeaker:
Look at your words. You yourself have given evidence admiting that most creations have only ONE creator and quite an exceptional few have 2.

No where do you show creations having even 5 creations not to talk of 10 or 100 or thousands.

And then you forget like your alignment shows creations and their creators are generally attached and named.

And no where do you see 2 God's laying claim and ownership over us as you yourself confirm by your statement "Not like any of the other gods can be demonstrated either." But only ONE GOD has been identified.

So you prove my case.

Man i can't even make head or tails of this your thesis😅.
Anyways like i said earlier where is the evidence for this your particular god and that this particular one created everything. Its very simple.

Lucifyre:
Man i can't even make head or tails of this your thesis😅.
Anyways like i said earlier where is the evidence for this your particular god and that this particular one created everything. Its very simple.

You are pretending you do not understand what has been prove because now you see you do not have any reasonable counter to this Truth which even you have impliedly admitted and confessed to

The evidence of God of the Bible is already standing and proven exactly as the evidence that proves Mr Toyoda is the god of the Toyota. It's as simple as that

Dtruthspeaker:
You are pretending you do not understand what has been prove because now you see you do not have any reasonable counter to this Truth which even you have impliedly admitted and confessed to

The evidence of God of the Bible is already standing and proven exactly as the evidence that proves Mr Toyoda is the god of the Toyota. It's as simple as that

Simple question you're talking plenty. Since the particular god you're talking about is the genocidal, tantrum throwing Yhwh. Where's the evidence?! The bible, a book riddled with inaccuracies and contradictions is the claim not the evidence, besides which particular biblle. i say again where's the evidence Yhwh exists?! Non ergo mental gymnastics.

Lucifyre:
Simple question you're talking plenty. Since the particular god you're talking about is the genocidal, tantrum throwing Yhwh. Where's the evidence?! The bible, a book riddled with inaccuracies and contradictions is the claim not the evidence, besides which particular biblle. i say again where's the evidence Yhwh exists?! Non ergo mental gymnastics.

Now you have shifted post to making accusations.

And the gymnastics is as a result of your own making in your denying the obvious evidence and Truth which you ended up admitted and confessing that it is indeed True.

So, as I said before you do not have any reasonable counter to give.

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you have shifted post to making accusations.

And the gymnastics is as a result of your own making in your deny the obvious evidence and Truth which you ended up admitted and confessing that it is indeed True.

So, as I said before you do not have any reasonable counter to give.

Still nothing 🥱