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Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Kailalomo(m): 7:15am On Jan 21, 2025
To hell with what it means for nigerians. We don't own the USA, it's their country and they can do as it pleases them.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by AuItsene: 7:16am On Jan 21, 2025
Postinor:
Una wan just kill us with news of trump, better focus on your lives and country, rather than licking the ass of your white master
Indeed.
Shameless people.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by SouthSouth1914: 7:18am On Jan 21, 2025
Even Trump is an immigrant! America belongs to red indians. Trump is just showing off as usual, he is going to hit a brickwall that will stonewall his policies! This was how Tinubu started!
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by bestower: 7:20am On Jan 21, 2025
ceejay80s:
I wonder how that boy missed that assassination attempt?
I swear...Hate is a strong word for human , his policies are not favorable even to his supporters base....We shall see.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by push23:
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Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by TWoods(m): 7:29am On Jan 21, 2025
Yankee101:
You can’t use an executive order to change the constitution. Listen to the video. You can hear him say they have a chance in the courts after the reporter asked about it

This is not Nigeria where Tinubu will do whatever he likes
An EO is not intended to change the Constitution, it is simply an Executive decision (that the executive branch of government must comply with - including those issuing US passports), so long as it does not violate any rights. The EO was intended to bait someone with standing to file a SCOTUS suit. The lack of standing is why no one has filed a 14th Amendment suit until now. They think they will have 5 justices to overturn the Wong Art Kim decision. At that point, it's game over.

The EO does not overturn the 14th Amendment. It is intended to force a court to reinterpret the meaning of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." There is already information indicating that the writer of the amendment did not intend it to be interpreted broadly.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Tinubu2027Agend: 7:29am On Jan 21, 2025
NoIgboSoundTueh:
Igbo exempted.
Biafrans can still give birth in USA and the child will still be US Citizen
Biafra 1 Zoo 0
USB, you mean grin
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by TWoods(m): 7:31am On Jan 21, 2025
free2ryhme:
Understanding the political leanings of Supreme Court justices requires placing them on a liberal-to-conservative spectrum.
Frankly, they will get 5 SCOTUS justices. It's over.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Truthsandtrusts: 7:31am On Jan 21, 2025
Postinor:
Una wan just kill us with news of trump, better focus on your lives and country, rather than licking the ass of your white master
Don't mind the Nigeria mugus,they never fit build their country na another man own dey sweet dem
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by redcliff: 7:31am On Jan 21, 2025
diamond68:
Funny enough Trump's parents came from one shithole country in Europe and he got his citizenship by birth. Oponu ni bobo Trump yen
Probably great grand parents..
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by AbujaLagos: 7:31am On Jan 21, 2025
NoIgboSoundTueh:
Igbo exempted.
Biafrans can still give birth in USA and the child will still be US Citizen
Biafra 1 Zoo 0
Brain reset
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by TWoods(m): 7:32am On Jan 21, 2025
wirinet:
You that understands how US law works explain to us how Trump's executive order aligns with the 14th amendment.
It doesn't, that's the point. He is using the EO to force the court to re-interpret the framers' intent of the amendment. Until then, no anchor babies again.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by free2ryhme: 7:32am On Jan 21, 2025
TWoods:
Frankly, they will get 5 SCOTUS justices. It's over.
Don't be too sure
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by TWoods(m): 7:33am On Jan 21, 2025
free2ryhme:
Don't be too sure
The disciples of Scalia have this one. Come back to this post in a year.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by makizee(m): 7:34am On Jan 21, 2025
It is of no effect, executive order does not Supercede the constitution.
Trump loves to play to the gallery and that's what he has done here, only a repel of the act by Congress can end it.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by free2ryhme: 7:34am On Jan 21, 2025
TWoods:
The disciples of Scalia have this one. Come back to this post in a year.
liberal-to-conservative spectrum is something you need to pay close attention.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by WrriterNg: 7:35am On Jan 21, 2025
BigDawsNet:
O ti lo

You ur kids can still get a US citizens if the dad or mum is a US citizens during the child birth
What about kids born in the US in the last 10 years?
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by JaySmart4422: 7:35am On Jan 21, 2025
I pray he block Nigerian politicians from going there for medicals

Nigerians running out of their country every second to go dominate another man's country Very shameful.

Nigerians hustle American visa with their blood
Na wa
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Flangelo12: 7:37am On Jan 21, 2025
wirinet:
You that understands how US law works explain to us how Trump's executive order aligns with the 14th amendment.
The numpty is just being haughty.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by ajepako(f): 7:39am On Jan 21, 2025
Until a Democrat takes over again

Thats why I like US politics

It's not Nigeria where it was PDP for 16 years back to back

And now APC 12 years back to back

At least with this bold step all those ' ill-mannered moms of US born Jadens ' in Lekki and Magodo go let the teachers and nannies rest!
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Stilloracle: 7:39am On Jan 21, 2025
UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS

Thats the key word here. So if u travel to the US documented..it doesn't affect U
This jw targeted at US neighboring countries that can easily get into the US UNDOCUMENTED to give birth. Like Mexico, Cuba, Bahamas etc
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by wirinet(m): 7:40am On Jan 21, 2025
TWoods:
An EO is not intended to change the Constitution, it is simply an Executive decision (that the executive branch of government must comply with - including those issuing US passports), so long as it does not violate any rights. The EO was intended to bait someone with standing to file a SCOTUS suit. The lack of standing is why no one has filed a 14th Amendment suit until now. They think they will have 5 justices to overturn the Wong Art Kim decision. At that point, it's game over.

The EO does not overturn the 14th Amendment. It is intended to force a court to reinterpret the meaning of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." There is already information indicating that the writer of the amendment did not intend it to be interpreted broadly.
I honestly do not know any other way the term "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" can be interpreted in the statement "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside", other than the jurisdiction of the United States.
As I said the 6 - 3 republican majority supreme court will have to employ legal gymnastics of Olympic proportions to reinterpre that section of the 14th amendment.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by TWoods(m): 7:42am On Jan 21, 2025
free2ryhme:
liberal-to-conservative spectrum is something you need to pay close attention.
What does that mean? Preferable to speak plainly. The use of overly complex phrasing of what is likely a simple idea is not useful.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by TWoods(m): 7:44am On Jan 21, 2025
wirinet:
I honestly do not know any other way the term "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" can be interpreted in the statement "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside", other than the jurisdiction of the United States.
As I said the 6 - 3 republican majority supreme court will have to employ legal gymnastics of Olympic proportions to reinterpre that section of the 14th amendment.
That same court essentially made the president a king and agreed he could kill his political enemy and get away with it, as long as he says it was in the national interest. We all said they would not overthrow Roe v. Wade... and here we are. You vastly overestimate this court.

What you'll find is justices reverting to what the framers intended, not the most liberal interpretation of that phrase in 2024. If they went that direction, the EO likely stands. The best way to reverse the EO is to have no one challenge it for 4 years, and how a Dem wins in 2028.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Inspirer1: 7:44am On Jan 21, 2025
RealLordZeus:
No more running to US to give birth

Tor
It's actually for illegal immigrants
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by TWoods(m): 7:46am On Jan 21, 2025
Inspirer1:
It's actually for illegal immigrants
Nope. For everyone on a non-immigrant visa, legal or not. H1B, F1/F2, B1/B2 all impacted.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by maiunguwar: 7:49am On Jan 21, 2025
ceejay80s:
I wonder how that boy missed that assassination attempt?
Hand go touch you.CIA don screen grab this your comment
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by free2ryhme: 7:49am On Jan 21, 2025
TWoods:
What does that mean? Preferable to speak plainly. The use of overly complex phrasing of what is likely a simple idea is not useful.
The U.S. Supreme Court justices can be analyzed on a liberal-to-conservative spectrum based on their judicial philosophies, voting patterns, and opinions on key issues:

Liberal Justices:
1. Ketanji Brown Jackson – Consistently liberal, advocating for progressive stances on issues like civil rights, voting rights, and equity.
2. Sonia Sotomayor – The most liberal justice, frequently championing individual rights, social justice, and government accountability.
3. Elena Kagan – Liberal but pragmatic, often building coalitions and writing moderate opinions to influence broader decisions.

Swing or Moderate Lean:
1. John Roberts (Chief Justice) – Though conservative, Roberts occasionally sides with liberals in pivotal cases to maintain institutional integrity, especially on matters like healthcare or voting rights.
2. Brett Kavanaugh – A conservative with moderate tendencies, occasionally siding with liberals on cases involving individual rights or regulatory matters.

Conservative Justices:
1. Amy Coney Barrett – Strongly conservative, often siding with religious liberty and originalist interpretations of the Constitution.
2. Neil Gorsuch – Conservative with libertarian streaks, particularly on criminal justice and Native American sovereignty issues.
3. Samuel Alito – Among the most conservative, focusing on issues like religious freedom and opposing expansive interpretations of rights.
4. Clarence Thomas – The most conservative justice, advocating for strict originalism and limited government.

Spectrum Summary:
Liberal Wing: Jackson, Sotomayor, Kagan.
Moderates: Roberts, occasionally Kavanaugh.
Conservative Wing: Gorsuch, Barrett, Alito, Thomas.
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Nwaikpe: 7:49am On Jan 21, 2025
AguluLiar:
The court will upturn it or another government will repeal it

Trump is just playing to the gallery. Let him go and solve American's main problems
Oga, relax, Donald Trump (SAW) is here to stay.

The dead mohammed followers can go back to syria, somalia and Nigeria.

America Belongs to Christ, and Christ alone. It is a Judeo-Christian state with Jews and Christians having equal rights and muslims should be treated as animals that they truly are.

Alhamdullilah

grin grin grin
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Kaiser20: 7:50am On Jan 21, 2025
Trump will sign the following Orders ñext ;
1. Exits from Green Card Lotory
2. Exits from NATO
3 .No more cash for poorer Nations of the World
4. Tough Visa policy for Muslim Nations. Excluding, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, Qatar, & Kuwait
5. More pressure on African Leaders to Provide a Home for their Youths to stay in Africa
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by Nwaikpe: 7:51am On Jan 21, 2025
diamond68:
Funny enough Trump's parents came from one shithole country in Europe and he got his citizenship by birth. Oponu ni bobo Trump yen
You no go shut that your mumu mouth up!

Trump (SAW) is more loved than your mohammed, and if mohammed sees him, he will bow to Trump (SAW).

grin grin
Re: President Trump Signs Executive Order To End U.S. Birthright Citizenship by adetayoonas(m): 7:52am On Jan 21, 2025
Jeezuzpick:
People can still earn citizenship.
Please how can they still earn citizenship?
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