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Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Obnoxious2001(m): 3:34pm On Jan 20, 2025
okikigsm:
First it depends on the pattern of build i.e spot welded or copper wire(fused)

If it is spot welded,you have to dismantle to correct d error but in case of copper wire coupled one,it's easier.

One way of detecting faulty battery most time is which is generating excessive heat?

Self discharge by testing the battery voltage drop

It's recommended that test is carried out on the sells b4 coupling.
Okay.

I will watch out for This heat you made mention of.

It's copper fuse I used
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by odimbannamdi(m): 5:39pm On Jan 20, 2025
Obnoxious2001:
Okay.

I will watch out for This heat you made mention of.

It's copper fuse I used
Update us when you succeed
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 4:51pm On Jan 21, 2025
Who is familiar with this spot welder and how do you get it to work?
It won't weld on a 3s Lithium-ion pack.

Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by edobor108(m): 5:56am On Jan 23, 2025
officialfestus:
Who is familiar with this spot welder and how do you get it to work?
It won't weld on a 3s Lithium-ion pack.
You need a very good 45ah car battery to work, brand new battery if possible, works very well than my previous portable spot welder

Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 6:18am On Jan 23, 2025
edobor108:
You need a very good 45ah car battery to work, brand new battery if possible, works very well than my previous portable spot welder
I tried it with a brand new 75ah car battery and the weld spark was poor.

Same thing when I used my 3s lithium pack, or must the connection be firm?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by edobor108(m): 7:37am On Jan 23, 2025
officialfestus:
I tried it with a brand new 75ah car battery and the weld spark was poor.

Same thing when I used my 3s lithium pack, or must the connection be firm?
the connection need to be very firm,and on the manual it is recommended not to exceed 45ah battery and not to add extra wire to it
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 8:09am On Jan 23, 2025
edobor108:
the connection need to be very firm,and on the manual it is recommended not to exceed 45ah battery and not to add extra wire to it
I'll do as instructed and get back to you.
Thanks.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by eghos12(m): 9:24am On Jan 23, 2025
I didn't know that you can connect laptop charger to pwm controller to charge your battery.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by edobor108(m): 9:37am On Jan 23, 2025
officialfestus:
I'll do as instructed and get back to you.
Thanks.
sure
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 10:25am On Jan 23, 2025
eghos12:
I didn't know that you can connect laptop charger to pwm controller to charge your battery.
So far the pwm voltage range is compatible.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by eghos12(m): 10:49am On Jan 23, 2025
dollarnaira:
So far the pwm voltage range is compatible.
Am using a 16v adapter with 20amps controller everything seems fine right now.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by tetralogyfallot(m): 2:18pm On Jan 26, 2025
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Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 5:19pm On Jan 26, 2025
tetralogyfallot:
Clean LG 3.2A 3.7v ebike cells in a very large quantity.
Why do you always post tempting things? grin
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by ewizard1: 6:12pm On Jan 26, 2025
Obnoxious2001:
Happy new year guys.

Please I have a question, if after you have coupled your cells, and there is a bad one, how do you find the particular cell that is causing the fault lipsrsealed embarassed lipsrsealed
I fully charge the pack, break all positive connection and let it sit for Hours or 1day, then test individual voltages.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 10:03pm On Jan 26, 2025
edobor108:
the connection need to be very firm,and on the manual it is recommended not to exceed 45ah battery and not to add extra wire to it
I used the car battery and it welds, but the issue now is, the car battery isn't mine.

How can I build a Lithium-ion pack that effectively power the spot welder?

Cc tetralogyfallot
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by tetralogyfallot(m): 10:59pm On Jan 26, 2025
officialfestus:
I used the car battery and it welds, but the issue now is, the car battery isn't mine.

How can I build a Lithium-ion pack that effectively power the spot welder?

Cc tetralogyfallot
wat type of bms did u use sir?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 5:36am On Jan 27, 2025
tetralogyfallot:
wat type of bms did u use sir?

Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 11:56am On Jan 27, 2025
officialfestus:
I used the car battery and it welds, but the issue now is, the car battery isn't mine.

How can I build a Lithium-ion pack that effectively power the spot welder?

Cc tetralogyfallot
Try 4s of lithium ion
But 4s LifePO4 will work well.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 12:38pm On Jan 27, 2025
dollarnaira:
Try 4s of lithium ion
But 4s LifePO4 will work well.
with or without bms?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 1:51pm On Jan 27, 2025
officialfestus:
with or without bms?
Any as am not a fan of dem
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Obnoxious2001(m): 2:31pm On Jan 27, 2025
dollarnaira:
Try 4s of lithium ion
But 4s LifePO4 will work well.
From experience 4s all the way.

I have been building some experiment around it.
Very efficient compared to 3s.

The only observation for now is battery tend to go out of balance when it gets to around 10.5 (I know it's below its cutoff)
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 2:39pm On Jan 27, 2025
Obnoxious2001:
From experience 4s all the way.

I have been building some experiment around it.
Very efficient compared to 3s.

The only observation for now is battery tend to go out of balance when it gets to around 10.5 (I know it's below its cutoff)
how do you tweak your inverter to accept 16.8v?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 3:02pm On Jan 27, 2025
Obnoxious2001:
From experience 4s all the way.

I have been building some experiment around it.
Very efficient compared to 3s.

The only observation for now is battery tend to go out of balance when it gets to around 10.5 (I know it's below its cutoff)
Both have advantage and disadvantages.
4s:
can easily derail
Compatible 16v Inverters are not common.
Difficult to charge
3s is extremely flexible. Contrary to my old claim, I can now power a 100L freezer at even10.8v.

One major killer of any build is improper balance from initial stage.

Still checked my 3s set up this morning and all 3.65v .
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Intellab(m): 10:47am On Jan 28, 2025
[quote author=officialfestus post=133886400][/quote]Where can I buy this kind of BMS? Last time was from Aliexpress. I don't want to wait.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Obnoxious2001(m): 1:26pm On Jan 28, 2025
officialfestus:
how do you tweak your inverter to accept 16.8v?
If you use a programmable inverter it's easy, just re-adjust your configuration.

If you can't ,find the maximum voltage yuyr inverter can take, and make sure it doesn't go more than that when it charges(give tolerance oh)

But basically that is it

Am currently using a famicare hF inverter all is good

I thing hybrid inverter will be very ideal of you are a big users.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 8:09pm On Jan 28, 2025
Intellab:
Where can I buy this kind of BMS? Last time was from Aliexpress. I don't want to wait.
buy from tetralogyfallot.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 8:12pm On Jan 28, 2025
Obnoxious2001:
If you use a programmable inverter it's easy, just re-adjust your configuration.

If you can't ,find the maximum voltage yuyr inverter can take, and make sure it doesn't go more than that when it charges(give tolerance oh)

But basically that is it

Am currently using a famicare hF inverter all is good

I thing hybrid inverter will be very ideal of you are a big users.
It's better I stick to 3s configuration.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by AdexAyanfe: 8:42pm On Jan 28, 2025
Please guys, my 3s 12v battery setup with bms is presently having different voltage along each series . Please how can I balance it properly? I noticed because it stops changing at 12.3v...it's so obvious it's not hitting 12.6v no more. Then I proceed to check the voltage of each series, hence I noticed the irregularities.

Presently, I'm in Ilorin and I have been searching for active balancer 3s 1A, but I haven't gotten none till this moment.

So, is there a way I could balance it while waiting to get an active balancer?

Attached is a diagrammatic representation of the present voltage of each series huh Please help

Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 8:46pm On Jan 28, 2025
AdexAyanfe:
Please guys, my 3s 12v battery setup with bms is presently having different voltage along each series . Please how can I balance it properly?

Presently I'm in Ilorin and I have been searching for active balancer 3s 1A, but I haven't gotten none till this moment.

So, is there a way I could balance it while waiting to gat an active balancer?

Attached is a diagrammatic representation of the present voltage of each series huh Please help
What is your configuration?
Error in sorting/ initial bal
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by AdexAyanfe: 8:51pm On Jan 28, 2025
dollarnaira:
What is your configuration?
Error in sorting/ initial bal
Configuration is 3s 6p (is this what you're asking?)

It was well sorted boss, I've been using it since mid last year (June 2024)
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 10:22pm On Jan 28, 2025
AdexAyanfe:
Configuration is 3s 6p (is this what you're asking?)

It was well sorted boss, I've been using it since mid last year (June 2024)
Yes.
You must have been charging at 12.6 or slightly above.

Since the set up is without an active bal, it can easily derail wen u go above or too low. The lower part is my usual fear.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by AdexAyanfe: 2:53pm On Jan 31, 2025
dollarnaira:
Yes.
You must have been charging at 12.6 or slightly above.

Since the set up is without an active bal, it can easily derail wen u go above or too low. The lower part is my usual fear.
Point taken. Thanks boss
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