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Godson1379:
The Heavenly Kingdom of God

Nonsense! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

The Fort of Zion was a forte that was reported to have been conquered by David and then renamed the City of David, the place where the palace in Jerusalem was situated, and David is said to have reigned. The fort sat at the top of a mountain called Zion which existed in the city of Jerusalem alongside other mountains including Mount Moriah where the Temple in Jerusalem was eventually built.

Kobojunkie:
Nonsense! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

The Fort of Zion was a forte that was reported to have been conquered by David and then renamed the City of David, the place where the palace in Jerusalem was situated, and David is said to have reigned. The fort sat at the top of a mountain called Zion which existed in the city of Jerusalem alongside other mountains including Mount Moriah where the Temple in Jerusalem was eventually built.

Where is the biblical evidence for all this trash you posted ?

Simply belongs here 🗑️🗑️

Godson1379:
➜Where is the biblical evidence for all this trash you posted ?
➜Simply belongs here 🗑️🗑️

It is all stated in Scripture if only you all would open the book and read it for your own selves rather than swallow the useless nonsense fed you by equally ignorant individuals who scam your lives and existence daily with their lies.

2. What belongs in there is the trash you spewed earlier in your OP which has no basis in Scripture.

Kobojunkie:
Nonsense! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

The Fort of Zion was a forte that was reported to have been conquered by David and then renamed the City of David, the place where the palace in Jerusalem was situated, and David is said to have reigned. The fort sat at the top of a mountain called Zion which existed in the city of Jerusalem alongside other mountains including Mount Moriah where the Temple in Jerusalem was eventually built.

you took it too literally
So because a place is called Bethel means that place is God's house?

gohf:
➜you took it too literally.
➜So because a place is called Bethel means that place is God's house?

Exactly where in the book are you informed not to take it literally?

2. Bethel is God's House? Where do you get this notion from, to begin with? Or do you simply concoct these ideas out of thing air simply because your brains are programmed to do so?

Kobojunkie:
Exactly where in the book are you informed not to take it literally?

2. Bethel is God's House? Where do you get this notion from, to begin with? Or do you simply concoct these ideas out of thing air simply because your brains are programmed to do so?

where in the book where you informed to take it literally?

Your brain which is or isn't programmed, doesn't know what Bethel means does it? Is it common for simple things to by pass you as well?

gohf:
➜where in the book where you informed to take it literally?
➜Your brain which is or isn't programmed, doesn't know what Bethel means does it? Is it common for simple things to by pass you as well?

The book was written by humans using human tools and with the aid of the human mind in human language meaning that human language rules are to be applied. That is essentially where you get that commonsense deduction from.

2. You claimed that Bethel was the literal House of God. I didn't ask for the meaning of the word.

Kobojunkie:
It is all stated in Scripture if only you all would open the book and read it for your own selves rather than swallow the useless nonsense fed you by equally ignorant individuals who scam your lives and existence daily with their lies.

2. What belongs in there is the trash you spewed earlier in your OP which has no basis in Scripture.

For your information, Zion is the new Jerusalem and is the manifestation of God's supreme heavenly Kingdom here on earth.

Godson1379:
➜For your information, Zion is the new Jerusalem and is the manifestation of God's supreme heavenly Kingdom here on earth.

Nonsense! Religious gobbledegook! 🙄

How can Zion, a mountain in Jerusalem, be considered the New Jerusalem a city filled with many mountains including Zion? Why are you folks resistant to knowledge? 🙄🙄

Kobojunkie:
The book was written by humans using human tools and with the aid of the human mind in human language meaning that human language rules are to be applied. That is essentially where you get that commonsense deduction from.

2. You claimed that Bethel was the literal House of God. I didn't ask for the meaning of the word.

does your brain work in a way that adds to what I wrote? Or is this just faulty for this moment?

Kobojunkie:
Nonsense! Religious gobbledegook! 🙄

How can Zion, a mountain in Jerusalem, be considered the New Jerusalem a city filled with many mountains including Zion? Why are you folks resistant to knowledge? 🙄🙄

So you want to add or takeaway from the word of God and heap curses on your self o poor Child

Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.


Can you explain this ?

gohf:
does your brain work in a way that adds to what I wrote? Or is this just faulty for this moment?

Up until this very point of the conversation, I have added absolutely nothing to what is written in that book. Merely stated what is in fact written in human language for all humans with basic language comprehension skills to glean. So, the problem you have here has nearly nothing to do with my brain.

Godson1379:
➜You want to add or takeaway from the word of God and heap curses on your self o poor Child
Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Can you explain this ?

You are in fact the one who has made the ridiculous attempt to add or take away from what is in fact written in the book. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

According to you, Zion is the New Jerusalem..

Godson1379:
For your information, Zion is the new Jerusalem and is the manifestation of God's supreme heavenly Kingdom here on earth.

...however, the verse you posted says absolutely nothing of what you claim. It makes no mention of Zion. So, what is there for me to explain when you are obviously making things up here?

Kobojunkie:
You are in fact the one who has made the ridiculous attempt to add or take away from what is in fact written in the book. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

According to you, Zion is the New Jerusalem.....however, the verse you posted says absolutely nothing of what you claim. It makes no mention of Zion. So, what is there for me to explain when you are obviously making things up here?

Can you explain this verse


Zechariah 8:3 Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain.


Are you still confused?

I will really appreciate if we could go scripture for scripture and not blind arguments. Many thanks 🙏

Godson1379:
➜ Can you explain this verse
Zechariah 8:3 Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain.
Are you still confused? I will really appreciate if we could go scripture for scripture and not blind arguments. Many thanks 🙏

As I explained in my very first post on this thread. Zion is a mountain in Jerusalem!

Kobojunkie:
...The Fort of Zion was a forte that was reported to have been conquered by David and then renamed the City of David, the place where the palace in Jerusalem was situated, and David is said to have reigned. The fort sat at the top of a mountain called Zion which existed in the city of Jerusalem alongside other mountains including Mount Moriah where the Temple in Jerusalem was eventually built.

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6 The king and his men went to fight against the Jebusites living in Jerusalem. The Jebusites said to David, “You cannot come into our city. Even our blind and crippled people can stop you.” (They said this because they thought that David would not be able to enter into their city.
7 But David did take the fort of Zion. This fort became the City of David.) - 2 Samuel 5 vs 6 - 7

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2. Solomon commanded the elders of Israel, the leaders of the tribes, and the heads of families to meet together in Jerusalem. He did this so that they could bring the Box of the Lord’s Agreement up to the Temple from the City of David, that is, Zion. -2 Chronicles 5:2

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Zion, the mountain, is inside of Jerusalem. So, Jerusalem, the city also includes the place called Zion which is also called "the City of David".

3. People from many places will go there and say, “Come, let’s go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the Temple of the God of Jacob. Then God will teach us his way of living, and we will follow him.” His teaching, the Lord’s message, will begin in Jerusalem on Mount Zion and will go out to all the world. - Isaiah 2:3

Kobojunkie:
As I explained in my very first post on this thread. Zion is a mountain in Jerusalem! ...
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Zion, the mountain, is inside of Jerusalem. So, Jerusalem, the city also includes the place called Zion which is also called "the City of David".

Just a Simple question will expose your obvious half truths again

What does the red bolded in the second paragraph say?

[/b]"His teaching, the Lord’s message, will begin in Jerusalem on Mount Zion"[b]

What does this mean?

Godson1379:
➜Just a Simple question will expose your obvious half truths again. What does the red bolded in the second paragraph say? [/b]"His teaching, the Lord’s message, will begin in Jerusalem on Mount Zion"[b] What does this mean?

Are you seriously asking me this question of yours?

Kobojunkie:
Are you seriously asking me this question of yours?

"In Jerusalem on Mount Zion"

Can't you see something is off from this your cherry picked scripture?

Or should i spoonfeed you like a baby ?

Godson1379:
"In Jerusalem on Mount Zion". Can't you see something is off from this your cherry picked scripture?

You are not making any sense at all. It clearly tells you that Mount Zion is a location inside of Jerusalem. But what exactly is the cherry-picking? Or maybe I should instead ask you why you want to reject what is clearly stated there?

Kobojunkie:
You are not making any sense at all. It clearly tells you that Mount Zion is a location inside of Jerusalem. But what exactly is the cherry-picking? Or maybe I should instead ask you why you want to reject what is clearly stated there?

You said in your own words that "Zion is a Mountain in Israel"

Can you explain this verses then

Isaiah 12:6 Cry out and shout, thou inhabitant of Zion: for great is the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee.

Isaiah 14:32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.

Psalms 14:7 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

Psalms 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.

Psalms 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem.

Psalms 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem. Psalms 87:2 The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
Psalms 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem.

Isaiah 10:24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt.

Psalms 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem. Isaiah 30:19 For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem: thou shalt weep no more: he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee.

Psalms 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem

Isaiah 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.


To mention but a few as there are soo much more


Where is the soo called "mountain" in Jerusalem in all this scriptures?

Godson1379:
➜You said in your own words that "Zion is a Mountain in Israel"
Can you explain this verses then
Isaiah 12:6 Cry out and shout, thou inhabitant of Zion: for great is the Holy One of Israel in the midst of thee.
Isaiah 14:32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.
Psalms 14:7 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.
Psalms 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.
Psalms 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem.
Psalms 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem. Psalms 87:2 The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
Psalms 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem.
Isaiah 10:24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt.
Psalms 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem. Isaiah 30:19 For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem: thou shalt weep no more: he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee.
Psalms 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem
Isaiah 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
➜To mention but a few as there are soo much more Where is the soo called "mountain" in Jerusalem in all this scriptures?

My very word were instead that Mount Zion—referred to as the City of David— is a mountain inside of Jerusalem.

2. None of the verses you quoted state otherwise. So, what is it that I am to explain to you since the verse I quoted earlier specifically draws the relationship between Mount Zion and Jerusalem for those who are ignorant to see?

3. You mean the Isaiah 2:3 is to be ignored? Even a look at the map of Jerusalem today confirms that mount Zion is a mount inside of Jerusalem but I guess that does not mean anything to do since you would rather hold onto religious delusions even in the face of evidence. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Kobojunkie:
My very word were instead that Mount Zion—referred to as the City of David— is a mountain inside of Jerusalem.

2. None of the verses you quoted state otherwise. So, what is it that I am to explain to you since the verse I quoted earlier specifically draws the relationship between Mount Zion and Jerusalem for those who are ignorant to see?

3. You mean the Isaiah 2:3 is to be ignored? Even a look at the map of Jerusalem today confirms that mount Zion is a mount inside of Jerusalem but I guess that does not mean anything to do since you would rather hold onto religious delusions even in the face of evidence. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Zion is not a mountain but a place of Habitation for the saved Citizens of God free from any form of Oppression with Christ as the True leader and Head of authority. The ultimate new Jerusalem.

You can carry on with your delusion as the Scriptures has made it abundantly clear leaving no room for doubts or misinterpretation.

You are the one arguing for argument sake with no coherence.

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Godson1379:
➜Zion is not a mountain but a place of Habitation for the saved Citizens of God free from any form of Oppression with Christ as the True leader and Head of authority. The ultimate new Jerusalem.
➜You can carry on with your delusion as the Scriptures has made it abundantly clear leaving no room for doubts or misinterpretation. You are the one arguing for argument sake with no coherence.

So, you blatantly reject the Israelite Scripture in its claims regarding what Zion in fact is? David, who conquered the fort and named it the City of David was wrong because you religious folks would rather give it your own ideas? 😂😂😂😂

2. You have conveniently made attempts to override the reality of things —scriptural records as well— all in order to assert ideas that have no basis in the logical sense. Clearly, the deluded one here is you!

Kobojunkie:
So, you blatantly reject the Israelite Scripture in its claims regarding what Zion in fact is? David, who conquered the fort and named it the City of David was wrong because you religious folks would rather give it your own ideas? 😂😂😂😂

2. You have conveniently made attempts to override the reality of things —scriptural records as well— all in order to assert ideas that have no basis in the logical sense. Clearly, the deluded one here is you!

Zion is the eternal City of God and no force in Hell can change this fact.

Godson1379:
The Heavenly Kingdom of God

Originally the Jebusite stronghold that came to be called “the City of David.” {1Ki 8:1; 1Ch 11:5} After capturing Mount Zion, David established his royal residence there. {2Sa 5:6, 7, 9} Alluding to David’s ruling from Zion as God’s anointed one are Jehovah’s words: “I, even I, have installed my king upon Zion, my holy mountain.” {Ps 2:6} Zion became a mountain especially holy to Jehovah when David had the sacred Ark transferred there. {2Sa 6:17} Later, the designation “Zion” embraced the temple area on Mount Moriah (where the Ark was moved during Solomon’s reign) and the term was, in fact, applied to the entire city of Jerusalem. {Compare Isa 1:8; 8:18} Since the Ark was associated with Jehovah’s presence {Ex 25:22; Le 16:2} and because Zion was a symbol of heavenly realities, Zion was referred to as the place of God’s dwelling {Ps 9:11; 74:2; 76:2; 78:68; 132:13, 14; 135:21} and the place from which help, blessing, and salvation would come.—Ps 14:7; 20:2; 50:2; 53:6; 134:3.
For unfaithfulness to him, Jehovah allowed the Babylonians to desolate Zion, or Jerusalem.
Later, in fulfillment of prophecy, Jehovah restored a remnant of his repentant people to Zion, or Jerusalem. {Isa 35:10; 51:3; 52:1-8; Jer 50:4, 5, 28; 51:10, 24, 35} This made it possible for Jesus Christ to ride into Jerusalem on the colt of an ass and present himself to Zion as king, thus fulfilling the prophecy of Zechariah. Zec 9:9; Mt 21:5; Joh 12:15
Only a remnant responded favorably, whereas the religious leaders rejected Jesus as king and sought his death. This pointed to calamity for earthly Jerusalem, or Zion, and its casting off by God.—Mt 21:33-46.
As Jesus had been rejected in earthly Jerusalem, it could not have been there that Jehovah laid his Son as “a tried stone, the precious corner of a sure foundation.” {Isa 28:16; Ro 9:32, 33; 1Pe 2:6} Rather, it must have been in the Zion concerning which Hebrew Christians were told: “But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels, in general assembly, and the congregation of the firstborn who have been enrolled in the heavens, and God the Judge of all, and the spiritual lives of righteous ones who have been made perfect, and Jesus the mediator of a new covenant.” {Heb 12:22-24} It is evidently on this heavenly Mount Zion that the Lamb, Christ Jesus, stands with the 144,000 who have been purchased from the earth.—Re 14:1-3

Godson1379:
Zion is the eternal City of God and no force in Hell can change this fact.

So, according to you, David and the prophets of Israel. Equally, the current map of Jerusalem showing Mount Zion as part of Jerusalem is all false evidence.

You religious nutjobs & ignorance in arrogance are Siamese twins joined at the head, inseparable. 😩😩😩

Kobojunkie:
So, according to you, David and the prophets of Israel. Equally, the current map of Jerusalem showing Mount Zion as part of Jerusalem is all false evidence.

You religious nutjobs & ignorance in arrogance are Siamese twins joined at the head, inseparable. 😩😩😩

You got a map From the Internet in 2025 to explain the ancient Biblical city of David

Not only that but map of the false Jewish city of Israel established in 1948


I officially give up Kobo

Godson1379:
➜You got a map From the Internet in 2025 to explain the ancient Biblical city of David
➜Not only that but map of the false Jewish city of Israel established in 1948
➜I officially give up Kobo

Of course, I have to get a map from the internet in 2025 because the book you claim you believe— even though clearly you reject with all that is you— is meant as a historical account of a kingdom that exists on this earth. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. False Jewish city of Israel in 1948? Are you OK at all? 😂😂😂😂

3. Religious clownery! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kobojunkie:
Of course, I have to get a map from the internet in 2025 because the book you claim you believe— even though clearly you reject with all that is you— is meant as a historical account of a kingdom that exists on this earth. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. False Jewish city of Israel in 1948? Are you OK at all? 😂😂😂😂

3. Religious clownery! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Simple question

What does the present day country of Israel created in 1948 filled with European "Jews" have to do with the biblical Israel Jews who were even black to start with?

Godson1379:
Simple question. What does the present day country of Israel created in 1948 filled with European "Jews" have to do with the biblical Israel Jews who were even black to start with?

Is this an attempt to derail or what? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

The city of Jerusalem has been around for thousands of years. It was last occupied by the Jews back during the first century AD, and after that has changed hands several times but the location of Mount Zion, Mount Moriah, and all other mounts in that city have not shifted since even before then. So, what the heck does it matter who or what occupies the city today?

Kobojunkie:
Is this an attempt to derail or what? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

The city of Jerusalem has been around for thousands of years. It was last occupied by the Jews back during the first century AD, and after that has changed hands several times but the location of Mount Zion, Mount Moriah, and all other mounts in that city have not shifted since even before then. So, what the heck does it matter who or what occupies the city today?

It matters because false truth is no truth at all.

I use the Devil as an example

Will explain no further.