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tctrills:
What is the difference between man and God? Will man eventually become God?
The bible says we are his heir. What shall we inherit from him?
Revelations 3.21
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

We shall inherit his throne? We shall sit on his throne.
Think about this.

tctrills:
Romans 8:16-18

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

Steep:
The glory that Christians would partake of is the glory given to christ however there is the glory that christ shared with the father for all eternity.
The glory that existed with God for all of eternity is the one he will not share with another, but the one given to christ in time he shared it with the church.

Steep:
No man will not become God. Man is created God is not.
There is a difference between Christ messianic throne and the father's throne in heaven.
Jesus is talking about his earthly throne when he comes to seat on the davidic or messianic throne.

tctrills:
What is the difference between man and God? Will man eventually become God?
The bible says we are his heir. What shall we inherit from him?
Revelations 3.21
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

We shall inherit his throne? We shall sit on his throne.
Think about this.

Kobojunkie:
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tctrills:
Back with scripture please.
If God shared his throne with Christ and those that overcome will sit on the Thorne and the faithful become heirs of God, what are we missing

Dtruthspeaker:
Are you not sitting in the throne of Tinubu?

Revelations also tells us where we shall be.

You do not real eyes that you have just committed one of female Adam's sins.

tctrills:
Jesus Christ sat on his father's throne and the bible states that we are co heirs with Christ. It's true that man is created but those that believe, he gave them power to become Sons of God. Note that a Son will end up as a grown up like his Father.

tctrills:
Please explain better. I don't understand your point.

Dtruthspeaker:
The difference between a throne and a house is simply that a throne is more than a chair or a house.

A throne is about the power of rule.

Thus, since you are under King Tinubu's power and rule, you are therefore in and under his throne.

Same we are and shall be when The Lord comes to take us away from His enemies and reclaim/reestablish His Rule as Revelations Says.

tctrills:
So you are wrong when you say that you are in Tinubu's throne. But you are correct when you say you are under his throne. .

Dtruthspeaker:
In and under the throne are the same thing for in both scenarios you are still within the power of the king and his throne.

And He did not say that everyone would sit on the throne with Him as you say, but this is for the church in Laodicea

tctrills:
In and under do not mean the same thing in any scenario. You can't be in and under at the same time. That's simple grammar. But you can be in and on at the same time.

tctrills:
Again you are saying that the Lord's blessings are for specific people and not all his followers?
I disagree. The blessings in the bible applies to all who keep the commandments.
Romans 2.11
For there is no respect of persons with God.
If it applies to the Laodicea, it applies to all who overcome.
But then let me ask you, from your understanding, the Laodicea who overcome will sit on the throne but the non Laodicea would not be allowed to the throne?

Dtruthspeaker:
These are just semantics! Whether In or on or under the bottom line is you are still within the power of the king and his throne which is the point I was making.



Revelations clearly stated "to the people of Laodicea".
No sir, in and under are not semantics.
Semantics is the study of meaning in language, so analyzing two words in semantics could involve looking at their definitions, relationships (synonyms, antonyms, hyponyms, etc.), connotations, or how they function in different contexts.
It is impossible to be in and under at the same time.
You can't be in a car and under the car simultaneously. But you can be on the train and in the train at the same time.
Now to the Laodicea, according to your theology, the people of Laodicea would inherit the throne of God and the rest of us would not. I disagree.

tctrills:
No sir, in and under are not semantics.
Semantics is the study of meaning in language, so analyzing two words in semantics could involve looking at their definitions, relationships (synonyms, antonyms, hyponyms, etc.), connotations, or how they function in different contexts.
It is impossible to be in and under at the same time.
You can't be in a car and under the car simultaneously. But you can be on the train and in the train at the same time.

tctrills:
Now to the Laodicea, according to your theology, the people of Laodicea would inherit the throne of God and the rest of us would not. I disagree.

Dtruthspeaker:
You can see the bold. And right now there function is to point out you are still within the power and rule of the king and his throne which is the point I was making.
Very wrong use of English. Being on the throne or in the throne doesn't signify being under the rule of the king. It signifies being the king.
Let's look at another verse in that same revelations.
Revelation 1:6
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
So again you are wrong.



Don't substitute God's Words. He did not Say "inherit" He Said "will I grant".

And grants are given under examination and at the discretion of the Grantor.

And not by inheritance. Inheritance means rights.

tctrills:
Very wrong use of English. Being on the throne or in the throne doesn't signify being under the rule of the king. It signifies being the king.
Let's look at another verse in that same revelations.
Revelation 1:6
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
So again you are wrong.

tctrills:
You are saying that the bible never called the faithful heirs of God?

Dtruthspeaker:
You are just proving the truth of what I said when I said that you are committing one of Eve's crimes (and the angels crimes too).

Clearly you you are still the same guy I know who is full of sins and perversions, therefore you are blinded by sins.

Wike, is clearly on the throne of Tinubu but is Wike not bound to obey Tinubu whether he, Wike agrees with Tinubu or not? Yes

That clearly means Wike is under Tinubu's rule which is what Rev 1:6 is simply saying.

Because you are trying to steal God's throne is why you are thinking it this evil way just like Eve did.

Like Eve you are going to get a punishment no mind can conceive.



Do you see your perversion? Now you have departed from Revelation 3:21 "To the Laodicea" to use other doors to sneak into Revelation 3:21?

Do you not see that you are the thief whom Jesus was talking about who cometh not through the door?

Steep:
Co heirs with christ to inherit the glory promised to christ.

Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

The glory promised/given to christ is different from the glory he already had.

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

tctrills:
Jesus Christ sat on his father's throne and the bible states that we are co heirs with Christ. It's true that man is created but those that believe, he gave them power to become Sons of God. Note that a Son will end up as a grown up like his Father.

tctrills:
So Co heirs means we get to inherit what he inherits right? What did Christ inherit from the Father?
Did he inherit everything?
Revelation 21:7
"He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Shall we inherit everything the Father has?

tctrills:
I wish you spend more of your time providing meaningful response that talking about me. Wike is not on Tinubu's throne. Don't let Tinubu catch you.
We don't steal God's throne, he will freely give it to those who overcome
They will inherit all things
So God said they that overcome will inherit all things but to you, only the Laodicea will inherit all things. To you, God has 2 set of commandments, one for Laodicea and the other for the rest of us. Carry om.
According to you, the sermon on the mount was only for those Jesus Christ was speaking to on the mount. It doesn't concern the rest of us.

Dtruthspeaker:
Is "they will inherit all things and the sermon on the mountain in Revelations 3:21? No.

So you are going round trying to find a door to use to sneak in.

tctrills:
Yes they will inherit all things is in revelations. Do you even read your Bible?

Steep:
Do you even know the meaning of inheritance?
You can can only inherit what is given to you, there is a glory given to Christ and there is glory he already possess as God. It is the gory the Father gave to him that he shares with the church.
John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Rev 21:7 is referring to all things God created.

Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.


Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

1 Corinthians 3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
3:23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.


You can see that all things the church inherits exclude God himself hence they don't become God just as christ himself doesn't become God but Christ is already God from eternity he didn't inherit it.

lecowas:
Jesus doesn't sit on the Father's throne. The Bible clearly states multiple times that Jesus is seated on a separate throne at the right hand of the Father.(Hebrews 1:3, Act 2:33,Mark 16:19,Col 3:1)

Then we also have 24 thrones for the elders and 4 powerful living creatures full of eyes and have 6 wings each, then surrounded by millions of angels.

About inheritance, what we are to inherit is the fullness of power, the 7 spirits of God. God doesn't die.