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IfyAwazie:
As America is heaven in the world, so which country is Hell

IfyAwazie:
As America is heaven in the world, so which country is Hell

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't say John (the baptist) is the least in the Kingdom of God but the least person is greater than John which means John will not even be in God's Kingdom!


(Matthew 11:11)
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. ~ KJV


Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. ~ NIV


Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. ~ NWT


You can find other translations to verify that John the baptist will not be in God's Kingdom according to Jesus.

So what did Jesus mean by this statement?

gohf:
another evidence that God did not send you, anyone listening to you should be careful least they go astray

Three different Bible translations, NWT, NIV, KJV said the same thing & made the same point in Matthew 11:11.
But,you don't want to hear the sermon of Jesus Christ in Matthew 11:11.

Oga, write your own version of Matthew 11:11 & bring it to this forum.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't say John (the baptist) is the least in the Kingdom of God but the least person is greater than John which means John will not even be in God's Kingdom!


(Matthew 11:11)
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. ~ KJV


Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. ~ NIV


Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. ~ NWT


You can find other translations to verify that John the baptist will not be in God's Kingdom according to Jesus.

So what did Jesus mean by this statement?

Janosky:
That guy will write his own version of Matthew 11:11.
The sermon of Jesus Christ is not for him.

Janosky:
Three different Bible translations, NWT, NIV, KJV said the same thing & made the same point in Matthew 11:11.
But,you don't want to hear the sermon of Jesus Christ in Matthew 11:11.

Oga, write your own version of Matthew 11:11 & bring it to this forum.

gohf:
isn't because you both lack understanding that you would suggest that Jesus said John the baptist won't be in God's kingdom, in your head Noah, Abraham, David and co wont also be in God's kingdom.

DaddyCoool:
✓ Wherever you are and NOT making it. Some people in America are in hell and would happily move to any other country!

Kobojunkie:
So, Nigeria is heaven to your Daddy GOs, Politicians, their cohorts, and the Dangotes, abi?

Una never begin talk wetin dey do una. 😁

DaddyCoool:
➜Of course. We that have means find Nigeria more heaven than America can ever be. You can buy labour very cheap, you're treated like royalty, and even police bow to you. While with the same money in America you can hardly afford childcare and you're treated like nobody!

gohf:
isn't because you both lack understanding that you would suggest that Jesus said John the baptist won't be in God's kingdom, in your head Noah, Abraham, David and co wont also be in God's kingdom.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't say John (the baptist) is the least in the Kingdom of God but the least person is greater than John which means John will not even be in God's Kingdom!


(Matthew 11:11)
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. ~ KJV


Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. ~ NIV


Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. ~ NWT


You can find other translations to verify that John the baptist will not be in God's Kingdom according to Jesus.

So what did Jesus mean by this statement?

Janosky:
" The least in the "kingdom of heaven" (heavenly realm) @ Matthew 11:11 is greater than John the Baptist.

MaxInDHouse:
Chai!
Janoski don dey give am expo!

Janosky:
My Bro good evening.
I hope your side bam tonight.
How's the Family?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't say John (the baptist) is the least in the Kingdom of God but the least person is greater than John which means John will not even be in God's Kingdom!


(Matthew 11:11)
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. ~ KJV


Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. ~ NIV


Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. ~ NWT


You can find other translations to verify that John the baptist will not be in God's Kingdom according to Jesus.

So what did Jesus mean by this statement?

Thankgod89:
➜Wrong interpretation!
John lived under the Old Covenant, and though he was righteous and fulfilled a critical role in God's plan, the new covenant brought by Jesus offers believers greater privileges. Jesus' followers have the opportunity to experience the Holy Spirit and a deeper connection with God than those before.
➜Also Jesus is emphasizing the value of humility in the Kingdom of Heaven. Even the "least" (those who humble themselves) in God's Kingdom are greater than John in this new context of grace and the fullness of God's presence

Kobojunkie:
Yes, your thieving politicians, your lying religious leaders—all of them scammers —, and other state fraudsters are people who have means in Nigeria that is why Nigeria is heaven for them. 😏

DaddyCoool:
➜Not only them. Anybody of means

Thankgod89:
Wrong interpretation!

John lived under the Old Covenant, and though he was righteous and fulfilled a critical role in God's plan, the new covenant brought by Jesus offers believers greater privileges. Jesus' followers have the opportunity to experience the Holy Spirit and a deeper connection with God than those before.

Also Jesus is emphasizing the value of humility in the Kingdom of Heaven. Even the "least"[b] (those who humble themselves) [/b]in God's Kingdom are greater than John in this new context of grace and the fullness of God's presence

Kobojunkie:
But the vast majority of those who are "of means" fall under the canopy indicated. Almost 100% of those who consider Nigeria a heaven cannot pass an integrity test conducted anywhere in the world. The world does not hide this fact at all. So, what in the world are you arguing?

Kobojunkie:
Not holding brief for anyone here but I see you making an interesting claim there that the same Jesus Christ of Israel is written to have declared that many of the least of these — in the Kingdom of God — would end up in the place of eternal damnation - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. How is that a greater privilege by your definition than the Old Covenant death which only had them returning back to dust in the grave?

2. The least are those who are humble in the Kingdom of the God of Israel. Where did you get that assertion of yours from since Jesus Christ never made that claim regarding them in all of His Gospel? 🤔

Thankgod89:
1....The "greater privilege" of the New Covenant lies not in the risk of eternal damnation but in the availability of eternal life and reconciliation with God through Jesus Christ. It’s about the transformative grace now offered, which wasn’t fully accessible under the Old Covenant.
2. I understand your skepticism about linking humility to "the least." While Jesus didn’t explicitly define "the least" as the humble in every instance, His teachings often elevate humility as a key trait in the Kingdom of God. For example:
In Matthew 18:4, Jesus says, "Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven."
In Matthew 23:11–12, He teaches that "The greatest among you will be your servant. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted."
While these passages don’t directly equate humility with "the least," they show that humility is a recurring theme in Jesus’ description of greatness in His Kingdom. This is why I associate the "least" with those who exhibit humility.

Kobojunkie:
Again, you avoid the question...work to Stay focused, please!

This discussion is centered around pointing out that John the Baptist, the Greatest of the Old Prophets — the last of them— was regarded by Jesus Christ as being lesser than the least(not the greatest) in the Kingdom of God of Israel. 🤔

Now, in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, Jesus Christ Himself, points out that those who are least in the Kingdom of God of Israel —the very same ones He compared to John the Baptist — were destined to eternal damnation. But you claimed earlier that the reason why Jesus Christ had said what He said —made the comparison earlier had to do with those of the Kingdom of God of Israel experiencing what you considered greater privilege. So, please better explain yourself as far as my original question.🤔

2. My refusal to do so is not born of skepticism but rather of the fact that I refuse to shove my own gibberish claims in the mouth of the person of Jesus Christ of Israel. He never linked humility to the least of those in the Kingdom of God, and He certainly never alluded to any such being the case. So, what reason would anyone have to do any such if not maybe to score a valueless point by way of yet another lie? 🤔

Thankgod89:
➜Thank you for pointing this out—I appreciate the opportunity to clarify. Let me address your points directly.
1. John the Baptist and the Least in the Kingdom:
You’re correct that Jesus described John the Baptist as "lesser than the least" in the Kingdom of God. This comparison highlights the shift between the Old Covenant (which John represents) and the New Covenant that Jesus inaugurates. The "greater privilege" I referred to earlier is not about everyone automatically being righteous in the Kingdom but about access to salvation, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and eternal life through Christ.
The Matthew 25:31–46 passage doesn’t contradict this. The least in the Kingdom still have the choice to follow Christ’s teachings (caring for the hungry, thirsty, stranger, etc.), and failure to live according to Kingdom principles leads to judgment. This underscores the responsibility tied to the "greater privilege" of being in the Kingdom—greater access to God means greater accountability. In contrast, under the Old Covenant, righteousness was tied to the Law, which could not fully reconcile people to God (Hebrews 10:1-4).....