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Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Jokerman(m): 7:11am On Jan 27, 2025
SeraphicWind:
Oga be calming down sometimes. Your own too much.

You are not more Christian than so many of us on this forum.

Just so you know, I am a Christian baptized in the Holy Ghost. I don't just speak tongues. I speak mysterious tongues.

You cannot stand close to me if I pray. You will collapse. I don't need to proove it to you. My tongues extracts spirits from bodies. But that is not my point here.

I do want you to know that I am a pure Igbo man too from Anambra. Pure blood. Infact, I am royalty.

As much as I am a Christian, I still honour my ancestors. I pour libations to them. I feed them. I venerate them. But I DON'T WORSHIP THEM. That is the key difference.
Oga, you are not a Christian
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Tellmeastory: 7:12am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
Mumu.

Colonised head.

MEANWHILE, IFA SPIRITUALITY KNEW ABOUT GOD TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE ROMANS INVENTED ''JESUS'' FOR YOUR SLAVE ASS TO WORSHIP.

SO DON'T YOU EVER DARE EQUATE AFRICAN RELIGION WITH NON BELIEF IN THE SUPREME BEING, YOU REPULSIVELY IGNORANT, COLONISED CLOWN.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by tollyboy5(m): 7:15am On Jan 27, 2025
Jokerman:
Ifa that will send you to hell, and whip you there.

At this age Baba, better repent, make restitution and get right with God, and full embrace Christ.

Ifa , and the rest na demons deceiving humans that they are gods, but are actually plotting to trap your soul in the fiery pits of hell, that Jesus has saved you from.

Ifa, Amadioha, Osun, Ogun, Allah, etc, cannot save.
Who told you that?
Your pastor? grin
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by zoghys: 7:17am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
You're such a confused little boy.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by AguluLiar: 7:25am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
I believe in ifa priests, but I don't believe in all the religious merchants who call themselves pastors and GOs.

Anything ifa tells you must come to past. Ifa does not lie unlike the thieving G.Os and pastors
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by 2RightHands1Coc(m): 7:26am On Jan 27, 2025
Go and sleep , SU
Jokerman:
Ifa that will send you to hell, and whip you there.

At this age Baba, better repent, make restitution and get right with God, and full embrace Christ.

Ifa , and the rest na demons deceiving humans that they are gods, but are actually plotting to trap your soul in the fiery pits of hell, that Jesus has saved you from.

Ifa, Amadioha, Osun, Ogun, Allah, etc, cannot save.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Alsenora: 7:26am On Jan 27, 2025
Baba didnt even say he serves 2 masters. The guys should ask himself what his forefathers worshipped before tha advent of Christianity and where they will be today having departed this world long ago?
LegendHero:
Your god of Israel wey dey look like mumu when Israelis dey mud kid for Palestine na em you wan make Obasanjo support?

Who is deceiving themselves between you and OBJ? You wey dey praise the god of murderers or OBJ wey dey praise the god of his ancestors?

Sometimes I dey think say you religious fanatics get mental issue.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by geoworldedu: 7:27am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
The God of Nigeria is greater than the god of Israel called Jehovah. Know this and know the truth.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Tinubuadvocate: 7:27am On Jan 27, 2025
What nonsense is this kiddo are too much in this forum oo.
iamnotillicit:
Baba Iyabo


Epon Jagbala...

🤗
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by epainos:
Lol

Nigeria's fundamental problem is the existence of powers and principalities. And that is why I support the idea of separation in order to reduce the influence on the entire land. At the same time, I believe it may be counter-productive.

Yoruba is deeply rooted in Ifa. Ifa is about knowledge, unlike Sango, Ogun, and others mentioned earlier in this thread. The Ifa corpus is mathematically based and can be compared to artificial intelligence. We know what data science and AI. AI is deep knowledge. Similar to star readers, these experts use mathematics to calculate and predict deep things. Mathematics is the cornerstone of the world. Engineering math is so abstract that humans used very little of it, which is why abstract math, vector analysis, and higher statistics were underutilized back then. When coding was combined with statistics, mathematics, and logic, abstract maths came to life. Robots are being developed, and space exploration has progressed.Elon Musk expressed concern about what AI will do to the world after witnessing its depth.

So imagine having superhuman knowledge without joining occult organizations.

Jews have a similar knowledge to ifa called Urim and Thummim. Check out the Old Testament to see what they were used for. When you understand how to use Urim and Thummim, you understand Ifa as well. So, Sango worshippers, Ogun worshippers, Oya worshippers, Benin god worshippers, and all Yoruba deities consult Ifa. The ifa priest is called Babalawo. As a result, the Babalawos' leader is a senior man with extensive knowledge of the occult. Everyone consults them.

According to the information I have, Presidents Obasanjo and Tinubu are both babalawo coded. Both have done extensive research on the Ifa corpus, which is why they are such powerful political figures.

Listen, while almost all deities were destroyed in Yoruba land, the ifa corpus was kept hidden because it is knowledge shared without being written down. I believe that much of the discovered knowledge could have been lost, but because the foundation cannot be erased from memory, it was rediscovered. And many yoruba studies professors have dug deep again, discovering new things. Just wait to see what AI will do to Ifa, Urim, and Thummim.

I have been writing about Igbo and Yoruba lately, but some people may interpret it as hatred after reading just one post. At times, it may look like I support Igboa in at times Yoruba. You will understand me better if you continue reading. Now listen....Nnamdi Kanu got the idea of Igbo Jews from his elders. Why? Igbo always compete with Yoruba, and vice versa. They know about Ifa Corpus, and so, you can add one plus one. The best way is for them to embrace Urim and Thummim. While I am not sure if Igbos are Jewish, the evidence is there. And if not, there must be a connection. These are deep issues. Even Isreal is connected to Yoruba one way or the other. And I know for sure that it is how Ifa was established in the Yoruba land. I will explain it very soon. Thes things are deep.

Why do you think Israel and the US always link with Nigeria. Many reasons...this is one. And take note, they always pay more attention when there is a Yoruba Nigerian president. E get reason. cheesy I believe they will pay more attention if an Igbo president emerges, but I am convinced that will never happen.

Knowledge is deep. Hmmm. However, based on my own life and experiences, I am currently with Jesus and will be forever. I am a man of experience and I understand life. I have been through it all: failure, success, trials, victories, wealth, poverty, abundance, want, and so on. I prayed deeply, and a time, I was about going into Ifa.....but when I saw what has been attached to it, I took off. grin Do not go there unless you are willing to sell your soul to the owner of Ifa Corpus. Of course same way I have sold my soul to Jesus. I will discuss Islam and Quran someday too. Very deep stuff.

Thank God! Thank you, Jesus...we can now pursue deep knowledge without selling our souls to the occult world. Yes, I believe in the Holy Spirit; however, if you still want to use math to make accurate predictions, get involved with artificial intelligence. It contains a powerful type of knowledge. Most people seek world knowledge, which is why they join cults. Just leave everything and go learn math and coding...you have got it.

So...you do not need another bloody Ifa where AI is. I'm telling you the truth. Leave Ifa and concentrate on AI. Ifa has too many hidden secrets, AI is public knowledge for everyone. This is why I have chosen AI. Very hard, but very useful.

Goodluck to everyone.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Mervingreat: 7:28am On Jan 27, 2025
Ifa is not a sin and using it fir yourself is never a sin.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Mervingreat: 7:33am On Jan 27, 2025
Verifying:
How about the ogboni confra?
Ifa is what we are talking about don't distract us ok. Mind you ogboni is occult and a different issue because the evil involve in it is horrible so drop that pls.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Honestey: 7:37am On Jan 27, 2025
you are CHRISTIAN+ TRADITIONALIST/2
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by lawani(m): 7:37am On Jan 27, 2025
IFA is the portal through which your spirit can help you access any information. With IFA, you are a fully conscious human being
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by slimfit1(m): 7:40am On Jan 27, 2025
Abacha died the day he planned to kill all the Yoruba soldiers.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by OZIOGU1: 7:41am On Jan 27, 2025
God bless baba, ifa is the way and life for me and i am really doing super well on this.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by femi4: 7:49am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
Your submission is even faulty, you already limit your God as God of Israel. Go bible school, you no gree. There are better scripture you could quote, this scripture is an own goal
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by RightChannel: 7:50am On Jan 27, 2025
You are only deceiving yourself, you can't serve Ifa with God.. Anyways that is the way you are doing in Baptist Church you belongs to. Ogboni fraternity Church in disguised!
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Teenaira: 7:54am On Jan 27, 2025
MasterJayJay:
I am a vegetarian but I love to eat fried chicken.
Oju kokoro is worrying you. Stop competing with us.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by MightySparrow: 7:56am On Jan 27, 2025
Pastorlawo.
gringringrin
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by bobbiiee: 7:57am On Jan 27, 2025
Isn't a Christian someone who follows Christ? Can one follow both Christ and another deity at the same time?

In my opinion, Obasanjo appears to be a traditionalist who participates in Christian events. I wouldn't classify him as a follower of Christ, which is the definition of a true Christian.

Just as being parked in a garage doesn't make every car a Cadillac, being on a church membership list doesn't automatically make someone a Christian.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by SporaD8:
ZombieDredd:
Keep playing

If a diviner is in charge, God said not to contact any diviner - He maketh them mad.
What distinguish a Diviner from a Priest? I'm guessing all the Levite are raving Lunatics!

Which god do you pray to in Ifa?
The ultimate creator of light/darkness, good/evil, war/peace, planting/harvest, prey/predator. The all-encompassing, non-discriminating supreme creator of everything that be, and appear not to be.

The sacrifices offered to in Ifa, is to whom?
Are there no rituals in Ifa? To whom are they done?
*In an enclose cosmos, there is The law of cause and effect where energy can neither be created nor destroy, it can only change form. In effect, any action MUST have a corresponding reaction.
The Sacrifices are either an action or reaction which offset the balance of circumstances/situations in anybody's favour.
*The sacrifice could be on behalf of/to a Being/Deity, Territorial forces, Elements, Circumstances, People or Things. To simplify, the sacrifice for a mosquito-infested room to turn in our favor is spray an insecticide.
There are only good and evil in the world, no inbetween
True!
Let me add... there are neutral ground where these opposing forces meet; not for long though - one must eventually dominate!
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by MightySparrow: 7:57am On Jan 27, 2025
RightChannel:
You are only deceiving yourself, you can't serve Ifa with God.. Anyways that is the way you are doing in Baptist Church you belongs to. Ogboni fraternity Church in disguised!
I think, Bàbá pastorlawo is a methodist not Baptist.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Oshin56(m): 7:58am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
pastor did you even know the meaning of serving two master?
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by bukitt:
grin
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by olaztek(m): 8:05am On Jan 27, 2025
99.9% Yorubas are muslims/Christians by name, traditionalist in practice.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by bukitt:
cool
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by gotnel: 8:12am On Jan 27, 2025
Righteousness2:
Your Excellency Sir,
You cannot Serve two Masters!
It does not matter how many churches you go to in a day.
You cannot claim to Serve GOD and Serve ifa or whatever.
It is an act of one deceiving himself or herself!

Choose you this day whom ye will Serve.
The gods of your traditions or the True GOD of Heaven and Earth, THE CREATOR AND INNVENTOR OF THE WORLD.


As for me and my Generations, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE GOD OF ISRAEL.
Mr Righteousness, Obasanjo is very correct in what he is saying here.
Take a closer look around the world, you will understand more better.
Christianity and Islam was a tools for exploration and exploitation of the peoples resources and their minds.
And it will remain so till eternity.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Obakoolex(m): 8:26am On Jan 27, 2025
SeraphicWind:
Oga be calming down sometimes. Your own too much.

You are not more Christian than so many of us on this forum.

Just so you know, I am a Christian baptized in the Holy Ghost. I don't just speak tongues. I speak mysterious tongues.

You cannot stand close to me if I pray. You will collapse. I don't need to proove it to you. My tongues extracts spirits from bodies. But that is not my point here.

I do want you to know that I am a pure Igbo man too from Anambra. Pure blood. Infact, I am royalty.

As much as I am a Christian, I still honour my ancestors. I pour libations to them. I feed them. I venerate them. But I DON'T WORSHIP THEM. That is the key difference.

This is the reason why Catholics HONOR Mary. Catholics don't worship mary as so many wicked Christians propagate. Catholics honour Mary because she is not just like every other woman.

Mary is a special woman chosen by God to bear the saviour of the world.

This is why Catholics honour and venerate her. Catholics worship only God through Jesus the Christ.

There is a reason Christ told people in the Bible;

"Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. Give to God what belongs to God".

Bros, Caeasar is very real. You know this.

This is the reason some of us Christians like Obasanjo honour certain divinities to "avoid issues". We don't worship them.

But most of you Nigerian protestants are too hot blooded. Una over sabi too much.

There is a reason God created me an Igbo man and created others Hausa or Yoruba. You don't know more than God. There is something called IGBO TRADITION. But will you ever learn?

You are just a baby Christian. I have been a Christian for over 40 years.

This tradition is the Reason Catholics will remain supreme for all eternity. Many churches come and go. But Catholics remained for over 2000 years. It is Tradition.

Even David Oyedepo acknowledged this.

If you believe you have so much powers brother, I will conduct an experiment with you. I will send you to an Oracle in Idemmili.

If you believe there is no power there, I triple dare you to lift that Oracle and burn it. You will just die like a fowl.

Bros, learn this today. THE BIBLE IS EVERYTHING. BUT THE BIBLE IS NOT THE ONLY THING.

There are Revelations and Traditions.

It is through revelation that the Catholic Church in her mighty wisdom discovered the Arch Angel named St Michael. A powerful Archangel of the most high living God.

But will you ever want to learn? I doubt. Your protestant blood is overflowing. You are the gatekeeper of heaven. I understand.

Remain blessed Sir.
Welldone sir!
Pharisee of our time..... So much hypocrisy in your post Oga.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by verdad00: 8:29am On Jan 27, 2025
The Black man doesn't understand the world. The same people that put them in chains are the ones that brought Christianity to them, and they foolishly followed. A Black man has forgotten about his culture, traditions, and his identity. That's what the colonisers want.

The Black man was told that he worships idols; the same colonisers took the same idols back to their countries.You see how foolish a Black person is? Before Christianity and Islam came to Africa, the Black man was worshipping the gods of his ancestors, and things were moving well. Blacks were free and united.

Christianity and Islam came to Africa and destroyed this wonderful continent. A Black man should ask himself why it is that there is no conflict in his coloniser's country.? Why is there conflict in Africa? Because when you are not united, your colonisers use you to kill each other and steal your natural resources without you knowing.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by kingthreat(m): 8:37am On Jan 27, 2025
LegendHero:
Your god of Israel wey dey look like mumu when Israelis dey mud kid for Palestine na em you wan make Obasanjo support?

Who is deceiving themselves between you and OBJ? You wey dey praise the god of murderers or OBJ wey dey praise the god of his ancestors?

Sometimes I dey think say you religious fanatics get mental issue.
As a christian I am not angry of this stupid statement.
But I am willing to pay you to say the same against muslims on a video showing your full face.
Re: I’m A Christian But I Don’t Joke With Ifa — Olusegun Obasanjo by Krismas(m): 8:59am On Jan 27, 2025
BK, CRS and RS concentrated in teaching only white man religious systems.
Ifa should be taught in schools as part of RS
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