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You're are wrong OP, Jesus , the apostles and the prophets ,never preached about dying of hair or plaiting, do you think during their time such don't exist? Prophet Samuel, Prophet Ezekiel and the Judge Samson had dreadlocks, but some people call it a sin now, preaching against it is omitting from the bible, saying something contrary is also adding to the bible which the last chapter of revelation says there's a punishment for that in hell

Stop focusing on the appearance of men, preach to the heart! When the heart is conquered by love, it will guide the appearance. Appearance is often social and cultural, it is the least of your concern in soul winning. Character and integrity over physical appearance.

1 Samuel 16:7 (NIV): "But the Lord said to Samuel, 'Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.'"

Proverbs 21:2 (NIV): "A person may think their own ways are right, but the Lord weighs the heart."

Jeremiah 17:10 (NIV): "I the Lord search the heart and examine the mind, to reward each person according to their conduct, according to what their deeds deserve."

Matthew 5:8 (NIV): "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God."

Luke 16:15 (NIV): "He said to them, 'You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of others, but God knows your hearts. What people value highly is detestable in God’s sight.'"

1 Peter 3:3-4 (NIV): "Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight."

dermmy:
At the bolded. Does barbing your hair or keeping low cut help you in the Christian race? The answer is NO. So why barb it too. SMH

Yes, it does. Christian doctrine teaches modesty. keeping a modest haircut conforms to Christian doctrines.

Problem is, MOST of them are actually very dumb with zero sense

ebubeson:
A true child of God should appear as a true child of God.

Naked as he/she was born

Your conscience should be your guard.
The book of James told us that knowing the right thing and refusing to do it is a sin.

Assuming,
Jesus step out from heaven into this world with plaited hair, a bottle of hot drink and a smoking stick of cigarette in his hand, and calling people to follow him. Will you come to him?

meobizy:
Good. The same holy book says a Christian shouldn’t judge. Live life as you deem fit and let the other person do the same.

na u nor understand dat verse...una dey use am dey subsidize wetin dey wrong😂😂😂

Judge not"😂😂😂

cutecommend:
If you check in some churches, you will see guys with plaited and probably see ladies and guys with coloured hair. You may even see guitarists with plaited hair. Is this right for a genuinely born again Christian?
The bible says in 2 Corinth 6:17 "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you".

True born again Christians should appear in a way that sinners will not have doubt about their Christian faith. They should appear in a way that people can receive the gospel from them without doubting them as true Christians.

A true born again guy should not be seen with plaited hair, neither should guys and ladies have coloured hair.

TRUE CHRISTIANS SHOULD BE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.

The short answer is NO

The problem with Christianity is they always give various interpretations to a bible verse to suit their own views. How does this verse stated here buttress his opinion.
'Touch not the unclean' implies that plaiting here by men is unclean but by women is clean.
Na wa oo

Naigerians and stupidity, the People who introduced yous to christianity wear what they like, wear their hair how they want or look how they want but you goons are trying to tell us that it is wrong.

I'm a Christian, but this post is crap. How is plaiting or coloring one's hair sinful? Are you aware that in some parts of Africa, men braid their hair?

You people will just add your own doctrines and personal biases into the scriptures, thereby bringing scorn and disrepute to the he gospel of Christ.

Shior

Naturally speaking this makes one looks irresponsible and I serious in life,how much more a Christian that is called to be spiritual and template in all things,my little submission

illicit:
Those things are cultural...

What's a non sinner suppose to look like?

This is how extremism starts.

African culture, men plait hair, in some culture, women cut hair

Jesus had long hair like all his people

I agree with your post, but the bolded sentence is wrong. In Jewish culture, men don't allow their hair to touch their shoulders. It is a shame for a man to keep his hair long, so no Jesus did not have long hair. The long haired, blue eyed and white skinned Jesus you know is a construct of the white man whose stock in trade is whitewashing history. All their pictorial depictions of heavenly beings are made to look like Caucasians.

bixton:
My definition of modesty and that of yours may be different but the most sincere question we should all ask ourselves is, if our modesty is based on how God through Christ Jesus defines and perceives modesty...

Yes, there are many cultures all over the continents and that has its own effect on everyone of us based on where we come from or are resident or what we've been taught.

Nevertheless, there is one God, one Jesus Christ and one Holy Spirit.
Irrespective of our culture the "Divine" within you should enable you to know what being modest within the confines of your culture is and not what the individual may think and it is.

Christianity as a religion has three aspects...
(1) The way of the Spirit of God.
(2) The way of the world.
(3) The way of the flesh.



If I were to mount a pulpit in Jamaica, I would not preach that keeping dreadlocks is not modest except if I am moved by the Spirit of God to do that.
Now, I believe we know that many of those who keep dreadlocks do so based on a belief system they were taught from birth. These dreadlocks are natural growing hairs and not those artificially done.
Now, by my conduct in that church and the conduct of others who don't wear dreadlocks, over time, the greater portion of the remaining half keeping dreadlocks should be able to realise and get their dreadlocks cut.



Christ will not be bothered about all that when he comes because, He is coming to take those whose are of Him and have satisfied the requirements given by Him.

Now to everyone who says they are of Christ Jesus, then the Jesus Christ in you if truly He is in you and the Spirit of God that dwells in you if truly our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, then we ought to know if cornrows, dreadlocks or skin cuts are approved of God.
These are like the attitudes or characters of every individual. The Spirit of God in you should give you that conviction if one still possess a bad or good character and which one is to be kept and which one the individual should put away.

At the end of the day, the main point you've made is that each individual has his/her own convictions as led by the spirit, and as such, our definitions of modesty varies as much as our fingerprints vary. Therefore, if you think within yourself, based on your own personal convictions that something is wrong, then by all means, keep away from it. However, it wouldn't be right for us to keep projecting our personal convictions on others as though they were the laws or commandments of God.

In otherwords, there a people who believe a woman wearing a trouser or even earrings is sinful, same way in which some persons believe, based on their own personal convictions that a man with cornrows or dreadlocks is a condemned sinner. But the truth is, there's absolutely no way in heaven or on earth that Jesus would be concerned about such irrelevant religiosity!

Please did Jesus barb his hair?

Jus curious tho

obailala:
At the end of the day, the main point you've made is that each individual has his/her own convictions as led by the spirit , and as such, our definitions of modesty varies as much as our fingerprints vary. Therefore, if you think within yourself, based on your own personal convictions that something is wrong, then by all means, keep away from it. However, it wouldn't be right for us to keep projecting our personal convictions on others as though they were the laws or commandments of God.

In otherwords, there a people who believe a woman wearing a trouser or even earrings is sinful, same way in which some persons believe, based on their own personal convictions that a man with cornrows or dreadlocks is a condemned sinner. But the truth is, there's absolutely no way in heaven or on earth that Jesus would be concerned about such irrelevant religiosity!

The key word is the bolded.
Bt the truth is, not many of us are led by the Spirit of God or want to adhere to the direction of the Spirit of God.
We have chosen our own convictions and remain walking in the flesh.

And if I come from one of those cultures in the Amazon in South America where we practice cannibalism,even after becoming a Christian I should continue because thats my culture abi?

drlaykay:
Stop misleading people with Bible verses that do not conform to the subject matter. There's nothing immoral about plaiting your hair or looking good in general.

This is mainly a cultural thing and your lack of exposure to other cultures has beclouded your judgement skills.

Nazgul:
Most doctrines we grew up to adapt to as Christians were made based on our culture and not the Bible...

Those weren't even our culture for a start. There were men that carried long braided hair in times before the coming of Christianity. The slave dealers invaded our communities, demonized everything about us and we bought into it.

I guess Op would be quick to dismiss Samson as a child of God on sighting him...one trademark of a Nazarene is that they don't cut their hair which then turns to dreadlocks which I would say even looks worse than plaiting it.

Looking4Trouble:
You are not wrong you know, but you are mentally unstable like the two idiots below

You are mad... you're one of those religion has made stupid

oroje1:
And if I come from one of those cultures in the Amazon in South America where we practice cannibalism,even after becoming a Christian I should continue because thats my culture abi?

Some cultures can practise wrong things but it's easier to decipher what's wrong from what is not.
God gave us the 10 commandments and even when Jesus came and was asked which is the greatest commandant he said "Love".
Love the Lord your God and love your neighbour as yourself. These two commandments summarise the 10 commandments.
Now the point is, cannibalism or other harmful cultural practices are directly against the commandments. You are not showing love to your neighbour whom you've killed for food.
Apply the principle of love in anything you do and you can tell if it's a sin or not

Looking4Trouble:
There is no culture in which men plait their hair, except the Satanic cult. Is it German culture, French culture, English culture, Chinese customs, Fulani culture or Igbo culture?

Remove this nonsense you posted before 5 market days so that Ogun no go strike you

A simple Google search would have saved you from self disgrace. Saying something wrong confidently without making the simplest of research. There are lots of cultures where men plait hair.
The commandments you need to keep are
1. Love the Lord thy God with all your heart
2. Love your neighbour as yourself.
If anything you do, doesn't violate these commandments, it's not a sin

Babinski:
Sin does not necessarily equate to immorality and vice versa. What is moral or not is determined by the community or society you find yourself.

There are no different standards for trial by God. What is a sin, is a sin. God does not judge people differently. Because the western world embraced homosexuality does not make it not a sin. People don't set the standard, God does. And what is the standard? According to Jesus, the standard is love. 1. Love the Lord with all your heart 2. Love your neighbour as yourself. Those two commandments are all encompassing. It's a superset of the 10 commandments. So ask yourself, how does plaiting of the hair violate the love for God and that of your neighbour.

Some communities do not see premarital sex as immoral. Also in some communities, giving a wife for sex to enteetain guests is not seen as immoral. Yet all these are sins before God.

You contradicted yourself here. That's why I said that God is the standard and not the society. Adultery and fornication is a sin.

Sin is disobedience to God and not dependent on morality or immorality as defined by men. Plaiting your hair as a man or coloring it as a man or woman can be a sin before God.

Did you say "CAN be sin before God?" You need to be definite in your assertion so we know where you stand. I have told you the standard for measurement of sin according to the Bible so you don't need to use human reasoning based on broad acceptance of behaviour.

Furthermore, Paul said in 1 Corinthians 10:23 and 1 Corinthians 6:12 that all things are permissible to me but not all things are profitable to me. Genuinely born again Christians are God's Children, Joint Heirs of the Kingdom with Christ and soldiers in God's Army. Anything capable of being an impediment in their journey with God should be avoided.

I love this verse you quoted. It even sheds more light to it. It might not be a sin but it has no benefit. That's the summary of the verse you wrote. Just like plaiting of hair will not add value to you, yet it is not a sin. Most of these standards are eroding that's another confirmation that it's manmade and not God's doing. Before today, Deeper life members don't watch television. They tagged it immoral and a sin. Today, the general overseer has corrected that doctrine. Before now, there's stereotype about dreadlocks, now it's being accepted. God does not change, only humans do. Sin is sin. Something couldn't be a sin years back and stopped being sin today.

Can you imagine Prince William colouring his hair, making tattoos and carrying weave-on? Of course you cannot because it would be a ridicule to the British Crown. Now imagine the children of the Most High whose Kingdom is not even comparable to the British Crown seeking to live their lives anyhow and emulate the lives of unbelievers so that there is hardly any distinction between them?

These are standards set by humans for themselves. Catholic priests do not get married, Pentecostal pastors do. Such standard upheld by Catholic priest does not make others who do not conform to it sinners.

For those who want to do all things while claiming to be Born Again Christians, how profitable are those things to you in your journey with Christ? Would you rather run your race with encumbrances that make you feel good or forgo them as a soldier limiting baggage so you can make good speed?

Plaiting your hair to many is just like having a good haircut and not in anyway an encumbrance. In this category is excessive paying attention to your hairdo to the extent that it limits you from doing the things of Christ can be an encumbrance. Just like money is not but the love of money is.

ponlear:
How does my look, the fashion style I choose affect my godliness?

We just attribute so many things to different things for no good reason

SMH

Yes it does. The Apostle Paul talks of modesty. Imagine a Christian lady going out to evangelize in a mini-skirt & overflowing cleavage. Do you think people will take her seriously? There’s a saying that you dress as you’d want to be addressed. I believe it’s true even in Christianity.Modesty is key.

meobizy:
Good. The same holy book says a Christian shouldn’t judge. Live life as you deem fit and let the other person do the same.

It’s not always judgement. If one can’t wear an outfit for a job interview, why wear it to church? People respect human beings more than they respect God. How would unbelievers listen to a Christian man in earrings & cornrows or a woman with exposed cleavage? Not only is it distracting, it’s also not modest.

Ishilove:
I agree with your post, but the bolded sentence is wrong. In Jewish culture, men don't allow their hair to touch their shoulders. It is a shame for a man to keep his hair long, so no Jesus did not have long hair. The long haired, blue eyed and white skinned Jesus you know is a construct of the white man whose stock in trade is whitewashing history. All their pictorial depictions of heavenly beings are made to look like Caucasians.

That's not true, Absalom was a Jew...

Apart from biblical doctrine, the only men who used to plait hair are Sango worshippers.
The Bible even said, any man who carries long hair is a shame unto him

illicit:
That's not true, Absalom was a Jew...

Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

1Cor 11 vs 14

Ishilove:
Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

1Cor 11 vs 14

Those are Christians...

Jesus was a Jew

So if Christians don't want to keep hair that it's shameful, fine...

illicit:
Those are Christians...

Jesus was a Jew

So if Christians don't want to keep hair that it's shameful, fine...

Paul, who wrote the passage I quoted for your reference was a Jew from the tribe of Benjamin. A 'Jew's Jew'. An Ultra Jew. The early Christians were Jews before the spread of Christianity to other parts of the world.

Ishilove:
Paul, who wrote the passage I quoted for your reference was a Jew from the tribe of Benjamin. A 'Jew's Jew'. An Ultra Jew. The early Christians were Jews before the spread of Christianity to other parts of the world.

That's my point...

They became Christians and so had to make a difference...

If people didn't keep their hair long before why will he say its not ideal...?

dermmy:
I am a practising Christian I run from sin. I preach Jesus and yes my hair is plaited.

The highlighted is where you've been thoroughly deceived.
You can't practice Christianity with plaited hair!
Christianity is not what you wish but the standard set for those who are preachers and teachers of God's Kingdom.
In Christianity plaiting your hair is a sign that you don't love your neighbour as yourself.
True Christians do everything just to get the message to people of all sort:

For though I am free from all people, I have made myself the slave to all, so that I may gain as many people as possible. To the Jews I became as a Jew in order to gain Jews; to those under law I became as under law, though I myself am not under law, in order to gain those under law. To those without law I became as without law, although I am not without law toward God but under law toward Christ, in order to gain those without law. To the weak I became weak, in order to gain the weak. I have become all things to people of all sorts, so that I might by all possible means save some. But I do all things for the sake of the good news, in order to share it with others! 1Corinthians 9:19-23

For your information i do drink alcoholic beverages because it's no sin but when i discover someone is irritated by it i won't take it in his presence in order to pass the message to him until he fully grasp it i will go on fasting for alcoholic beverages!