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missjekyll:
You obviously did not read the link. What's the matter? Too poor to access the Internet? Pele.

Anyway, when certain letters were changed or leetspeak was used,it gave a version of history similar to Open AI.

I don't have money.

Happy now?

Roboto11:
Tech Bros were telling Trump that they had 500 Billion Dollars for AI.

Only for DeepSeek Chinese students to do it for 6 million dollars.
They've killed Nvidia.

believe me, you dont know what you are saying. you guys just follow the narrative of the news without seeing the big picture.

The game changer of deepseek is that it is free for the paying version of chatgpt and also rather than needing data centers, you can really just run it on a phone or a computer

but you fail to see the big picture

deepseek actually used Nvidia's lower-capability H800 chips to train their model that means that Nvidia chips are still needed to run any Ai model

I personally think because of lack of understanding the market over reacted to the news.

motymop:
believe me, you dont know what you are saying. you guys just follow the narrative of the news without seeing the big picture.

The game changer of deepseek is that it is free for the paying version of chatgpt and also rather than needing data centers, you can really just run it on a phone or a computer

but you fail to see the big picture

deepseek actually used Nvidia's lower-capability H800 chips to train their model that means that Nvidia chips are still needed to run any Ai model

I personally think because of lack of understanding the market over reacted to the news.

Did I tell you I don't know that they need GPUs and less power?

The fact is Nvidia are not the only makers of GPU but they had leading position.

With less reliance on their cutting-edge GPUs, it's safe to say their "monopoly" is quashed which is reflected in how the stock market reacted .

motymop:
Oh my Gosh! i fucking hate people like you. hate is a strong word but that is what i am expereincing.

I am testing based on what it can generate and what data it can provide, btw if i wanted to use the web, i could just go to google and get the info i was looking for, OR do you think i didnt see the web version before i started the comparison

funny enough, i actually wrote that i used chatgpt and got the info i wanted without any web function.

you said lot of bull shit. bla bla like people compare them based on task beyond average human intellect, this is a fucking lie.

People compare them based on the data they want. there are also other advanced test but that is none of my business as a non technical user.

Next time, try to comprehend what someone is saying instead of acting smart and dismissing important info.

You’re wrong, just acknowledge your goof and move on. You don’t come off as smart.

motymop:
Oh my Gosh! i fucking hate people like you. hate is a strong word but that is what i am expereincing.

I am testing based on what it can generate and what data it can provide, btw if i wanted to use the web, i could just go to google and get the info i was looking for, OR do you think i didnt see the web version before i started the comparison

funny enough, i actually wrote that i used chatgpt and got the info i wanted without any web function.

you said lot of bull shit. bla bla like people compare them based on task beyond average human intellect, this is a fucking lie.

People compare them based on the data they want. there are also other advanced test but that is none of my business as a non technical user.

Next time, try to comprehend what someone is saying instead of acting smart and dismissing important info.

You need to take to correction. You are still using web mode in ChatGPT. There is no way a GPT will know current data over the cutoff it was trained against at least not for now.

Let me teach you how you will know if any GPT is searching the web, it will cite the sources by showing web logo on answers when you ask them question.

If it’s from the GPT knowledge itself, there won’t be any sources in the response.

I specialize in helping them train GPT using data and has worked on many custom made generative AI platforms. So I know exactly what I am talking about.

DMerciful:
Well, there's a new player in town. Nvidia had a massive crash -16%, nasdaq -3%

You’re right. But the only reason Nvidia crash was because Deepseek is able to achieve almost same performance with other AI platforms while using less powerful chips.

What that means is that demand for Nvidia chips in the AI terrain will reduce. Coz it was believed that you need large amount of powerful chips to train and sustain your platform. But na lie.

lapazi:
You’re wrong, just acknowledge your goof and move on. You don’t come off as smart.

I don't have to come out smart that is not the intention

Even the test I did wasn't about being smart

It is just a normal test anybody can do

I know you feel threatened but it all good.

motymop:
it is just like chatgpt but a game changer in the aspect of generative AI

Chatgpt is US made, deepseek is Chinese

What makes deepseek a game changer?

LegendHero:
You need to take to correction. You are still using web mode in ChatGPT. There is no way a GPT will know current data over the cutoff it was trained against at least not for now.

Let me teach you how you will know if any GPT is searching the web, it will cite the sources by showing web logo on answers when you ask them question.

If it’s from the GPT knowledge itself, there won’t be any sources in the response.

I specialize in helping them train GPT using data and has worked on many custom made generative AI platforms. So I know exactly what I am talking about.

ok, i agree with you, i did a research

Now back to why Chatgpt is still more advance than deepseek

i just analysed a picture data and chapgpt gave me a more coherent analysis than deepseek

LegendHero:

I also just analysis of another data point and deepseek couldn't give an answer, while chatgpt did

motymop:
ok, i agree with you, i did a research

Now back to why Chatgpt is still more advance than deepseek

i just analysed a picture data and chapgpt gave me a more coherent analysis than deepseek

Yes you are right about your observation. However, you should understand that when you grade AI platform models, you compare them one many fronts. They will excel in some and others will do better in some. You have to use aggregate metrics to compare them.

Think of them like human being. You could be better with drawing, I could be better with typing. You could be better with dancing, I could be better in detecting smells.

Deepseek is better in other things because I use it to write out codes sometimes and they are complex thinking. I tried using ChatGPT and Grok for same thing, and it outperform them in how fast it reason and able to write code at one go that address my want.

Omoawoke:
What makes deepseek a game changer?

free, unlimited, and open-source. compare to chatgpt

it has the ability to make AI accessible to everyone

other than that, it is just media hype.

LegendHero:
Yes you are right about your observation. However, you should understand that when you grade AI platform models, you compare them one many fronts. They will excel in some and others will do better in some. You have to use aggregate metrics to compare them.

Think of them like human being. You could be better with drawing, I could be better with typing. You could be better with dancing, I could be better in detecting smells.

Deepseek is better in other things because I use it to write out codes sometimes and they are complex thinking. I tried using ChatGPT and Grok for same thing, and it outperform them in how fast it reason and able to write code at one go that address my want.

I dont write code but i use Chatgpt to analyse data and it has been forth coming unlike deepseek

We all use it for different thing, i moved toward deepseek because of the media hype and realised that it does not give me what i want.

Well! it is good that it solves your need but it does not solve mine

In my opinion, chatgpt is a better model because it solves my needs.

motymop:
ok, i agree with you, i did a research

Now back to why Chatgpt is still more advance than deepseek

i just analysed a picture data and chapgpt gave me a more coherent analysis than deepseek

Deepseek has never claimed to be more advanced than ChatGPT.
It's only said that for everyday ,man on the street use, deepseek use makes more sense.

I don't need a supercomputer at home. My Dell will do. See?

motymop:
free, unlimited, and open-source. compare to chatgpt

it has the ability to make AI accessible to everyone

other than that, it is just media hype.

But ChatGPT is accessible to everyone and has a free version
The only thing I’d say is the paid version of 20 dollars per month and the highest subscription of 200 dollars for month which has mad capabilities

motymop:
LegendHero:

I also just analysis of another data point and deepseek couldn't give an answer, while chatgpt did

Your observation is right. It has been reported that Deepseek is not better than OpenAI GPT in image processing and analysis.

missjekyll:
Deepseek has never claimed to be more advanced than ChatGPT.
It's only said that for everyday ,man on the street use, deepseek use makes more sense.

I don't need a supercomputer at home. My Dell will do. See?

but you do not need a super computer to run chatgpt

also deepseek isnt free, to use the api is cheaper than chat gpt

Omoawoke:
But ChatGPT is accessible to everyone and has a free version
The only thing I’d say is the paid version of 20 dollars per month and the highest subscription of 200 dollars for month which has mad capabilities

For normal users, you won’t notice a difference.

But for advanced users, you will understand the difference.

ChatGPT free version have limit to the words you can send. It has lesser limit to paid version. So if you’re trying to analyze bigger data, you’ll have issue. Also ChatGPT free have limit on the file you can analyze, at a point, it’ll tell you that you exceeded the limit. Imagine you want to analyze 5000 documents.

Thats why they have paid version and custom GPTs.

Also most advanced people use the API to access it. I use the API mostly with GPT 40 mini model because that is somehow cheap. But even with the cheap, Deepseek latest model is still almost more significantly less costly. When I say significant, extremely significant.

Think about companies using GPT on big data, it is a great deal for them.

motymop:
I dont write code but i use Chatgpt to analyse data and it has been forth coming unlike deepseek

We all use it for different thing, i moved toward deepseek because of the media hype and realised that it does not give me what i want.

Well! it is good that it solves your need but it does not solve mine

In my opinion, chatgpt is a better model because it solves my needs.

You are correct in your assertions. I have no argument against it.

Roboto11:
Did I tell you I don't know that they need GPUs and less power?

The fact is Nvidia are not the only makers of GPU but they had leading position.

With less reliance on their cutting-edge GPUs, it's safe to say their "monopoly" is quashed which is reflected in how the stock market reacted .

Lmao, i think you do not know what you are saying.

How is a monopoly quashed with how the stock market reacted? how does it relate??

Nvidia still has 80% of the global market share when it comes to Ai chips

I still wrote that deepseek used Nvidia gpu to train their model.

motymop:
Lmao, i think you do not know what you are saying.

How is a monopoly quashed with how the stock market reacted? how does it relate??

Nvidia still has 80% of the global market share when it comes to Ai chips

I still wrote that deepseek used Nvidia gpu to train their model.

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Why did the market react the way it did?

Ba your Nvidia stock you dey protect..

Roboto11:
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Why did the market react the way it did?

Ba your Nvidia stock you dey protect..

It reacted because Deepseek showed the world that you can use less number of Nvidia chips to achieve almost same result as when you use large number of Nvidia chips in the AI world.

That simply means in the future, there will be less demand of the chips in AI business which is in contrast to what people initially believed.

If I need 1000 chips to power my AI, and suddenly someone use 10 chips to achieve same thing, what do you think happens to the stock of the person selling the chips?

LegendHero:
It reacted because Deepseek showed the world that you can use less number of Nvidia chips to achieve almost same result as when you use large number of Nvidia chips in the AI world.

That simply means in the future, there will be less demand of the chips in AI business which is in contrast to what people initially believed.

If I need 1000 chips to power my AI, and suddenly someone use 10 chips to achieve same thing, what do you think happens to the stock of the person selling the chips?

DeepSeek came up with a more efficient way to train AI using only about 50,000 GPUs, 10,000 of which were NVIDIA GPUs purchased before the US export restrictions. Comparatively, the likes of OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic operate with more than 500,000 GPUs each, per VentureBeat.

Roboto11:
DeepSeek came up with a more efficient way to train AI using only about 50,000 GPUs, 10,000 of which were NVIDIA GPUs purchased before the US export restrictions. Comparatively, the likes of OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic operate with more than 500,000 GPUs each, per VentureBeat.

Yes you are buttressing the fact. We are both saying the same thing

DMerciful:
Deepseek got 1month of learning. Its astronomical to achieve this after just 1 month

You are fkin liar.... Do you think everyone are fools Why can't you guys be sensible for once in your life.... Hw will you say it took 1 month.... God have mercy on you liars

motymop:
I don't have to come out smart that is not the intention

Even the test I did wasn't about being smart

It is just a normal test anybody can do

I know you feel threatened but it all good.

I’m not referring to the test, the test is okay based on the knowledge gap. Your initial response is what I referred to as not coming of as smart. No be everything be fight.

Tradepunter2:
You are fkin liar.... Do you think everyone are fools Why can't you guys be sensible for once in your life.... Hw will you say it took 1 month.... God have mercy on you liars

Calm down ,Haba. You could have presented your counterargument in the time it took you to type this.

It's actually took less than 2 months.
Source :https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/27/tech-shares-asia-europe-fall-china-ai-deepseek?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Meanwhile ,none of you have put forward anyplan on how to exploit this for maximum gain.

I am smarting from my losses and need to get in on the next best thing.

Does this have any application in Nigeria?

Deepshit

LegendHero:
It’s evident you don’t know how to use it.

Let me teach you. GPTs are usually trained on some data and they usually have cutoff. Most of them have cutoff in 2023 and some early 2024.

That’s why they all have what they call the “web” version. If you want more recent data that is past their cutoff period, you will need to use the “web” version which will search the internet and return recent data. Think of it like Google.

Below is Deepseek web version, turn it on and ask your question again. You’re using ChatGPT in web mode, that was why it returned the answer.

Lastly, when people compare GPTs, they don’t compare them based on the basics like you are using. They use ability to think intelligently and perform task that are way beyond average human intellect.

I triple dare you to show me one example of where any of these Large Language Models demonstrated intelligence. As far as I'm concerned these tools are nothing more than elaborate search engines.

Alusiizizi:
I triple dare you to show me one example of where any of these Large Language Models demonstrated intelligence. As far as I'm concerned these tools are nothing more than elaborate search engines.

Lol 😂. Your response tells me about your level of education and exposure.

No need trying to show you an example.

But ChatGPT supports voice interaction, giving users a more versatile experience, while DeepSeek is limited to text-based queries