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MrPOTUS:
These people just dey manipulate members,

Where in the Bible was this written?

Tinubu economy on red alert 😅😂🤣, it's payback time. Pulpit bandits a.k.a pastorprenuers don't want to give back to same members that gave them

Abegi

Make I hear word

[quote author=capnies post=133917258][/quote]The person that is blessed when you give to the less privileged is the giver not the receiver


That is why Jesus didn't return the widows mite
..that would have denied her the much-needed blessing


The same thing with the widow of Zarapth who told Elijah that she would die if she gave her last food to him but he insisted



The less is blessed by the greater

capnies:
IS GIVING MONEY TO A NEEDY CHURCH MEMBER NOT A BLESSING

STOP TWISTING THE BIBLE
ONLY GOD BLESSES DIVINELY
IBIYIOMEI HAS NOTHING SPIRITUALLY
HE IS 100% CARNAL I REPEAT IBIYIOMEI IS 100% CARNAL

You that gave us blessed not the one that receive


Even Lucky Dube with marijuana in his head knows that ..blessed he that giveth than the one that taketh

bukkani:
You must be a fool to think he has any anointing at all .. wetting dey worry all of una .. respect which nonsense anointing ..An anointed man of God can't be saying what God did not say ...Ode nie

Haba, why the insults? If you think the man is a magician or babalawo, it's your opinion. Keep it. Peace.

Themandator:
Feeding and blessing is not the same


Blessing means spiritual empowerment to succeed


Feeding us temporary nourishment.i5 is needed again and again


Jesus fed them and they returned again for bread because they were hungry again



Blessing is not free even in our tradition... For your own father to proclaim blessing on you you must come with something, called venison

So ibiyieme now your father?

Mervingreat:
So ibiyieme now your father?

Fools despise wisdom


Have a wonderful day

Themandator:
Feeding and blessing is not the same


Blessing means spiritual empowerment to succeed


Feeding us temporary nourishment.i5 is needed again and again


Jesus fed them and they returned again for bread because they were hungry again



Blessing is not free even in our tradition... For your own father to proclaim blessing on you you must come with something, called venison

Was Ibiyeomie talking of blessing? The guy was clearly talking about money which is a material thing like food. Jesus never said a preacher cannot give to his followers, none of the disciples said that, can you quote any scripture that either said or implied that?

Pastor you just lied. Even Jesus paid for Peter's tax and provides fish for his disciples.

This man is a crazy clown. Who made them senior men of God in the first place. Always trying to extort the gullibles.

Themandator:
Fools despise wisdom


Have a wonderful day

Fools hate the truth and love running away when confronted with fact.

Good day too.

Wow...... Thank God we have deep Christians here. Who still refuse to understand after this your Spirit inspired comment should be ignored. Case closed

Themandator:
The less is blessed of the greater and venison is the activator of the blessing


Heb 7 v 7




Genesis 27:25 - Isaac Blesses Jacob
He said, “Bring it near to me, and I will eat of my son's venison, that my soul may bless you.” He brought it near to him, and he ate.

phosky:
https://eyesoflagos.com/2025/01/29/pastor-david-ibiyeomie-warns-never-take-money-from-senior-pastors-it-reduces-your-blessings/

The heading of the subject matter and the contents there in seems different from a perspective.

But I will never go and say, ‘Pastor Femi, can you help me?’ It’s not scriptural.

The bolded stems from going to seek for aid(begging) from the Senior Man of God.

But what if the Senior Man of God, on his own gives or gifts you money as a junior person, would it be proper to say you don't want it and that it's scriptural to not receive money from him?

Na lie

This is not right at all, if I become a senior pastor tomorrow, you mean I can't help the needy or a junior pastor going through hard times.

Anybody can give, pastors shouldn't collect all the time.

Ogun go soon kee this thief

Liar

Give to the poor that is what the Bible said

Seems this man has not come across
John 12:4
Or
John 13:29

Jesus had the tradition of giving to the poor.

The poor is also a needy.

And Everyone needs one thing or the other and should sincerely get it where he can

Dorman09:

Confusing right? When you hear of Urhobo wayo, this is exactly what it means. Very dishonest, fraudulent and extortionate in nature.

It’s Ok for pastors to exploit gullible members of their hard earned money but it’s a curse if you go to your pastor for financial support.

I laugh out loud when I see people talk this way
Well don't be too smart in this world if you do you will have problems solving idiots messages
On the other hand people like this will call them self man of God right
Well as we all know Nigeria is a scammers Lodge hope you can relate
I pray God opens the eyes of every one in Black race
So Help Me God

Kingdavid579:
Out of contest

"out of context"

So what about those 5,000 people who collected food from Jesus the overall most Senior Pastor?
Armed robber's and pulpit bandit's have taken over the Altar.

Themandator:
Feeding and blessing is not the same


Blessing means spiritual empowerment to succeed


Feeding us temporary nourishment.i5 is needed again and again


Jesus fed them and they returned again for bread because they were hungry again



Blessing is not free even in our tradition... For your own father to proclaim blessing on you you must come with something, called venison

You are taking a version of the Bible and interpreting it the way you like.

That which you're saying stems from the bessing of a father to his son. Which every father is expected to do to their children.

It has nothing to do regarding a Pastor and his follower or mentee. That is not what it says there.

The Pastor cannot play the role of a father but a father can play the role of a pastor over his biological children and that is exactly what happened in that which you're describing.


Now, apart from where Scripture talked about the greater blessing the lesser which occured between Melchizedek the King of Salem and Abraham. We can't truly say that blessing was in material things because Abraham was already wealthy and that was the reason why he refused to take from the spoils of war except that 10% he gave to the Prince of Salem. Abraham's men took their portion from the spoils of war as tradition demands then in times of war.
Also note that one of the reasons Melchizedek the King of Salem was mentioned was to let us know before hand that at a particular time, the order of the levitical priesthood will cease to exist and a new order of priests will be called who are not of the house of Levites.


Now, this is what Scripture days as it concerns material things...

Deut.28.12 - The LORD will open to you His good treasure, the heavens, to give the rain to your land in its season, and to bless all the work of your hand. You shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow.


Deut.8.18 - "And you shall remember the LORD your God, for it is He who gives you power to get wealth, that He may establish His covenant which He swore to your fathers, as it is this day.

Now, the bolded in the above verses talks about the blessing of material wealth.


Spiritual blessing is completely different from material blessing. Spiritual blessing entails so many things and in some instances it's specific and in accordance to the words of the one who is blessing you.

phosky:
https://eyesoflagos.com/2025/01/29/pastor-david-ibiyeomie-warns-never-take-money-from-senior-pastors-it-reduces-your-blessings/

Format too much for this guy hand...excess format dey worry am

WHY is it that every message I have ever seen pasted by Ibiyeomi is alway about MONEY! MONEY! MONEY!

What is the problem na? Is there nothing else in his mind or so called "mandate" apart from earthly wealth? So tiring.

Tell this man to deliver just a 30 minutes message on salvation of soul or heavenly race, serious WAHALA go burst.

I don't blame the gullible pastor. I blame the gullible poeple attending his pecuniarty church.

If to say na just me. Na only him and his family go dey that church.

Dogalmighty17:
Ibiyeome should rest from this matter. Doctrines that have no basis in scripture are what he teaches all this time.

Doctrime is messing Christianity up

I don't blame the gullible pastor. I blame the gullible poeple attending his pecuniarty church.

If to say na just me. Na only him and his family go dey that church

If u can ask God for help, who is then a so called senior man?

Senior men that are billionaires, who then will they give to.

I have never seen a page in the bible where collecting something from a man of God attracting negativity

Thank God Nigerians are getting smarter.
I can't forget the tears I shaded when one of them preached to me to bring my entire January income as first seed, that it will open the doors of financial freedom for me.
I couldn't control myself.
I burst into tears.
Why should he think I should be that dumb to give him my entire January salary?

Judolisco:
So when jesus shared bread and fish for his followers they were not suppose to collect it.... I hear new one today

Abeg help me ask am oo