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Salt06:
Bro are u a deciever? It's only a deciever that would believe everyone is

Name the church u are hyping, so i burst your bubble. Simple.
Abi, why Christianity full of simps like dis?

Krismas:
Name the church u are hyping, so i burst your bubble. Simple.
Abi, why Christianity full of simps like dis?

See u. Lolz. Trouble lover. Me no sabi argue. But Drop your contact.
How about we fit chat on another platform when I have time.

I didn't expect you to say otherwise. You guys are business men.

Salt06:
See u. Lolz. Trouble lover. Me no sabi argue. But Drop your contact.
How about we fit chat on another platform when I have time.

Whot is wrong with chatting on dis platform?
Una too fake abeg.
Kontinue to defend business centers called churches.
Bye

Afolue:
tbh, no man of God is anointed by God! Was it done in the spirit realm or what? Who anointed them? who did God send that we all know of to be indeed from God most high! Left for me, religious work/activities is a voluntary calling. Only the false claim anointing.

Anointing is meant to be a chain by known prophets. Let look at the biblical days. Elijah anointed Elisha, Samuel anointed Saul after which David. Jesus anointed Peter coming to the present day Pope.

The excesses in the Christian religion is too much. It has been abused to a fault. No religious bodies to checkmate these mess. Unfortunately it has ruined many lives…

If ordination is real, why do these so called men of God contradict themselves and no oneness in the faith.? This was the same man who once said that he hates white garments. People who came before him and still standing…!

So the popes are anointed?

THIS ONE IS A MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER. I NEVER SEE HIM AS A PASTOR OF THE WORD OF GOD.

Krismas:
Whot is wrong with chatting on dis platform?
Una too fake abeg.
Kontinue to defend business centers called churches.
Bye

Na so una dey use "fake" and "business centres" tag to run

Themandator:
Sense is your problem....


But you must be helped


Abraham gave to the greater...the less is blessed by the greater...Heb 7 v 7



It was not Melchizedek that gave Abraham


That is what he is saying

Reading through all your responses....you are sounding very stewpid and foooooolish by the second.
His church is my worship center though I've stopped going there because of most of his financial narratives....
He's talking carelessly of late.
What is wrong with giving? Isn't is said that givers don't lack? Why is he turning the narrative just to suit his interests....?
Late TB Joshua gave to the down trodden in the society. Dont support stupidity because one bros claims to be God's relative....we were all made in His image, hence we can function without most of these pulpit bandits....stop sounding ridiculous......

Afolue:
tbh, no man of God is anointed by God! Was it done in the spirit realm or what? Who anointed them? who did God send that we all know of to be indeed from God most high! Left for me, religious work/activities is a voluntary calling. Only the false claim anointing.

Anointing is meant to be a chain by known prophets. Let look at the biblical days. Elijah anointed Elisha, Samuel anointed Saul after which David. Jesus anointed Peter coming to the present day Pope.

The excesses in the Christian religion is too much. It has been abused to a fault. No religious bodies to checkmate these mess. Unfortunately it has ruined many lives…

If ordination is real, why do these so called men of God contradict themselves and no oneness in the faith.? This was the same man who once said that he hates white garments. People who came before him and still standing…!

who anointed Elijah?

When and how was Peter anointed?

To answer your question why they contradict themselves, it is because they are not of God and their faith is from the devil the author of confusion. So please answer mine

gohf:
who anointed Elijah?

When and how was Peter anointed?

To answer your question why they contradict themselves, it is because they are not of God and their faith is from the devil the author of confusion. So please answer mine

Elijah and similar other was by birth.Divine existence…! Asides from these men of God earthly ordained like Elisha, David by well known prophet by birth(ordained).
As for Peter, Jesus said upon this rock I shall build my church. That was his form of ordination.

Mind you, Paul was never known nor ordained by anyone. And this is where these so called present day men of God began sprouting up in disguise outside the knowledge of the said Christian religious faith itself

Truthseeker10:
So the popes are anointed?

according to Christiandom in line to ordination the Pope is from the hierarchy of Peter whom was said that upon the rock….

Words by Jesus himself. That was his form of ordination. Peter was the first Pope ever.

That is why Catholics never identify with other denominations

Afolue:
according to Christiandom in line to ordination the Pope is from the hierarchy of Peter whom was said that upon the rock….

Words by Jesus himself. That was his form of ordination. Peter was the first Pope ever.

That is why Catholics never identify with other denominations

Kindly show me a verse where Peter was ordained as Pope and where peter ordained other popes.

Afolue:
Elijah and similar other was by birth.Divine existence…! Asides from these men of God earthly ordained like Elisha, David by well known prophet by birth(ordained).
As for Peter, Jesus said upon this rock I shall build my church. That was his form of ordination.

Mind you, Paul was never known nor ordained by anyone. And this is where these so called present day men of God began sprouting up in disguise outside the knowledge of the said Christian religious faith itself

okay so instead of believing that God anoints men, you choose to believe ordination from birth 🙄😮‍💨.
So Peter was anointed by the words of Jesus to be the foundation of the church right? Ah that's not true at all, how could you believe and make up such things just to support what you claim

Truthseeker10:
Kindly show me a verse where Peter was ordained as Pope and where peter ordained other popes.

is there any verse of Peter’s death in the Bible? So where do you expect me to show you from?

The hierarchy of the Pope is from Peter. And if a Pope does pass away another will not arise. And they are divinely chosen in their own ways. Please read more. We don’t need begin arguments. Or simply ask any catholic priest is all I can say. At most google it “hierarchy of the Popes”.

Afolue:
is there any verse of Peter’s death in the Bible? So where do you expect me to show you from?

The hierarchy of the Pope is from Peter. And if a Pope does pass away another will not arise. And they are divinely chosen in their own ways. Please read more. We don’t need begin arguments. Or simply ask any catholic priest is all I can say. At most google it “hierarchy of the Popes”.

So I should just believe what you wrote up there because you said it. Where was Peter ordained as a pope in the bible?

gohf:
okay so instead of believing that God anoints men, you choose to believe ordination from birth 🙄😮‍💨.
So Peter was anointed by the words of Jesus to be the foundation of the church right? Ah that's not true at all, how could you believe and make up such things just to support what you claim

God knows only prophets. It is God and the prophets. Check out those who ordains on earth, their existence were divine existence. Elijah, Samuel, Jesus Christ. Even John the Baptist to have even dared to touch Jesus, he was by birth, but still fear no let am. Until he was ordered to!

Most of these so called men of God today are followers of the ways of Paul the apostle who doesn’t have clear ordained witness of his religious escapades. Peter never knew him. One who was the master of the sharia law in his time!. To execute oppositions. Peter denied him. Anointing and ordination is a chain. It is only a born anointed that can anoint anyone on earth. God can’t come down from heaven and anoint a man. How can! Those who claim to be ordained are nothing but voluntary service to God. If not there won’t be separations, contradictions and misunderstandings amongst themselves and members alike which is an outright way to show clearly that they are mostly false.

Ordained men speak out God’s words directly without being biased.

Truthseeker10:
So I should just believe what you wrote up there because you said it. Where was Peter ordained as a pope in the bible?

Peter you are the Rock, upon this Rock I build my church. That’s according to the scriptures. You are obviously not a catholic. And I hope you know Catholicism existed centuries even before Islam came into line light? Pope is the terminology by the Catholic as the head!. Just as you don’t know how they came about it. Same as myself. But it’s left for us to know more.

At least we all know after Jesus on earth, persecutions was in Rome(Italy) where the papacy is, to this very day. Tis where the word Roman Catholics came from. So please ask the catholic priest more!

Pope mean head. Peter was the 1st head

Afolue:
Peter you are the Rock, upon this Rock I build my church. That’s according to the scriptures. You are obviously not a catholic. And I hope you know Catholicism existed centuries even before Islam came into line light? Pope is the terminology by the Catholic as the head!. Just as you don’t know how they came about it. Same as myself. But it’s left for us to know more.

At least we all know after Jesus on earth, persecutions was in Rome(Italy) where the papacy is, to this very day. Tis where the word Roman Catholics came from. So please ask the catholic priest more!

Pope mean head. Peter was the 1st head

Where does the bible say 'Peter you are the Rock' as you stated above? Kindly quote the verse.

If Pope means 'head', Peter was the head of what?

judewrites:
If he wasn't anointed, he wouldn't have been able to pastor one of the biggest churches on earth 🌎.

Are you actually as daft as you sound? What a tool!!!!

Afolue:
God knows only prophets. It is God and the prophets. Check out those who ordains on earth, their existence were divine existence. Elijah, Samuel, Jesus Christ. Even John the Baptist to have even dared to touch Jesus, he was by birth, but still fear no let am. Until he was ordered to!

Most of these so called men of God today are followers of the ways of Paul the apostle who doesn’t have clear ordained witness of his religious escapades. Peter never knew him. One who was the master of the sharia law in his time!. To execute oppositions. Peter denied him. Anointing and ordination is a chain. It is only a born anointed that can anoint anyone on earth. God can’t come down from heaven and anoint a man. How can! Those who claim to be ordained are nothing but voluntary service to God. If not there won’t be separations, contradictions and misunderstandings amongst themselves and members alike which is an outright way to show clearly that they are mostly false.

Ordained men speak out God’s words directly without being biased.

You say, "Peter never knew him."

2Pet.3.15 And remember, the Lord is waiting so that people have time to be saved. This is just as our beloved brother Paul wrote to you with the wisdom God gave him--

Then you say, "Peter denied him." So where is the proof?

Who told you, "Anointing and ordination is a chain." When does it begin and when does it end? Why does it also end, it is from scripture you are getting this or from a man or a spirit?

This you wrote I believe, Ordained men speak out God’s words directly without being biased."

I know God calls men from the womb, and I know God anoints men, He doesn't need to come down and do so. Jesus was anointed with power and it wasn't from the womb, Peter received the anointing like the rest of the disciples of Jesus as the Holy Spirit came upon them.


Elijah did not anoint Elisha, God did. God is the one who anoints not men. Elisha sent his servant to anoint Jehu, it was God who anointed not Elijah's servant. Samuel wanted to pour oil up on the head of Jesse's elder son but God choose and anointed David

Afolue:
is there any verse of Peter’s death in the Bible? So where do you expect me to show you from?

The hierarchy of the Pope is from Peter. And if a Pope does pass away another will not arise. And they are divinely chosen in their own ways. Please read more. We don’t need begin arguments. Or simply ask any catholic priest is all I can say. At most google it “hierarchy of the Popes”.

but Peter the one in the bible wasn't the head of the church, oh well that's Jesus, but Peter wasn't their leader. It was James.

gohf:
but Peter the one in the bible wasn't the head of the church, oh well that's Jesus, but Peter wasn't their leader. It was James.

Jesus knew he was leaving them was when he handed over to Peter. Where he asked him if he truly loved him about 3 times. It was Peter and no one else. . . And that is where the pillar of the Catholic faith stands till date.

Your are the rock and upon the rock I have built the church.

Other men of God are voluntary service. Tis why the steady breakaways. Has the Catholic Church broken till then? No! People only leave and it’s a free will.

Ordination no be beans. God no be small person

Afolue:
Jesus knew he was leaving them was when he handed over to Peter. Where he asked him if he truly loved him about 3 times. It was Peter and no one else. . . And that is where the pillar of the Catholic faith stands till date.

Your are the rock and upon the rock I have built the church.

Other men of God are voluntary service. Tis why the steady breakaways. Has the Catholic Church broken till then? No! People only leave and it’s a free will.

Ordination no be beans. God no be small person

Till now, you've not told us where the statement in bold is in the bible.

I wonder which bible, he is talking about,

gohf:
You say, "Peter never knew him."

2Pet.3.15 And remember, the Lord is waiting so that people have time to be saved. This is just as our beloved brother Paul wrote to you with the wisdom God gave him--

Then you say, "Peter denied him." So where is the proof?

Who told you, "Anointing and ordination is a chain." When does it begin and when does it end? Why does it also end, it is from scripture you are getting this or from a man or a spirit?

This you wrote I believe, Ordained men speak out God’s words directly without being biased."

I know God calls men from the womb, and I know God anoints men, He doesn't need to come down and do so. Jesus was anointed with power and it wasn't from the womb, Peter received the anointing like the rest of the disciples of Jesus as the Holy Spirit came upon them.


Elijah did not anoint Elisha, God did. God is the one who anoints not men. Elisha sent his servant to anoint Jehu, it was God who anointed not Elijah's servant. Samuel wanted to pour oil up on the head of Jesse's elder son but God choose and anointed David

“with the wisdom God gave him” ! When Paul was arrested who was he asked to go meet? Has Paul and Peter ever met one on one in existence? The answer is No! That is what I mean. Though He speaks out of wisdom, outrightly yes!

Second, Peter never knew Paul by all standards. The proof if from your previous quote. He was hearing of him but he never knew him in person! In which he admitted

I have given a clear explanation of what I mean, from the church which is Jesus Christ to Peter coming down to the present day pope and to the future popes. “ Jesus” is the divine authority here, who passed it on.

Jesus was an ordained prophet even before he was born, Peter never was from the Holy Spirit, it was by Jesus proclamation (chosen) by natural authority as a prophet from birth just as the likes of Samuel, Samson, John the Baptist etc. Remember what Jesus said about Judas iscariot? He was as well ordained. Was it the Holy Spirit that came upon Judas upon betrayal? No!

What does the word ordained mean? Power bestowed upon them by God most high. Why didn’t you mention ordinarily men? It was God using whom he ordained to carry out his ordinance. So it was God who did. Yes! Never did any carried anything on their own accord! So get the difference

Truthseeker10:
Till now, you've not told us where the statement in bold is in the bible.

all the questions you are asking is outrightly life after biblical occurrences.

Tis why I said you are not a Catholic.

All these your questions should be directed to the Catholic priests. Since you’re are not getting the trend.

Life after Jesus was Catholicism, and that was how they came about.

They are authors of the Bible as well…

So I don’t know begin this.

phosky:
https://eyesoflagos.com/2025/01/29/pastor-david-ibiyeomie-warns-never-take-money-from-senior-pastors-it-reduces-your-blessings/

Money, money, money, money , money, money, money, money , money, money , money and of course, more money : that's all they think about, ponder on, meditate on, consider, dream of, envision and talk about morning, day and night. Now, he will not show us where this is located in the Bible.

Truthseeker10:
Where does the bible say 'Peter you are the Rock' as you stated above? Kindly quote the verse.

If Pope means 'head', Peter was the head of what?

when the Catholic priest celebrates mass, he recites on a daily basis, all these questions you are asking …

Your are obviously not a Catholic.

No catholic will ask me these kind of questions.

Instead should be directed to the priest.

The have knowledge of everything, during and after

Afolue:
when the Catholic priest celebrates mass, he recites on a daily basis, all these questions you are asking …

Your are obviously not a Catholic.

No catholic will ask me these kind of questions.

Instead should be directed to the priest.

The have knowledge of everything, during and after

So you mean that your knowledge is based on what a catholic priest is saying and not the bible?

Truthseeker10:
So I should just believe what you wrote up there because you said it. Where was Peter ordained as a pope in the bible?

I have full knowledge of the Bible but not a scholar. Quoting is not my thing. Unless you don’t know the Bible yourself

Afolue:
all the questions you are asking is outrightly life after biblical occurrences.

Tis why I said you are not a Catholic.

All these your questions should be directed to the Catholic priests. Since you’re are not getting the trend.

Life after Jesus was Catholicism, and that was how they came about.

They are authors of the Bible as well…

So I don’t know begin this.

So the catholic priest was the one that told you that Peter was the first pope and the rock on which the church was built without giving you a Bible verse to support it?

Afolue:
I have full knowledge of the Bible but not a scholar. Quoting is not my thing. Unless you don’t know the Bible yourself

Quoting is not your thing. So where are you getting the statement that you claim is from the scriptures?