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| Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by gohf(op): 1:24pm On Jan 27, 2025 |
When you hear someone say, Jesus is God because you cannot separate a person from their word, it is when a lie is meant to sound logically or when logic is used in confusing you into accepting a lie. The truth is, to represent a person doesn't mean you become that person. The question you should ask from Matthew 8 and Luke 7 is, did Jesus go to the house of the centurion to heal his servant? The answer is No Jesus spoke a word, he sent a word. You may say only God can sent a word, at times it's like we forget the bible starts with genesis and has stories of Moses, Joshua, Samuel, Isaiah, Elijah, Elisha, Ezekiel the prophets of God that God spoke through. So when you read some miracles you believe that it is God doing them, yes it is God's doing but through the hands of a man. Jesus calls himself the son of man, Matt. 8:20, demons in fear recognize him as the son of God, Matt. 8:29 In Luke.7.16 Then fear came upon all, and they glorified God, saying, "A great prophet has risen up among us"; and, "God has visited His people." Is Jesus being called a great prophet or God here? It is only those who see Jesus as God who would say yes, but Jesus wasn't called God here but a prophet through whok God was visiting His people. John asked are you the Messiah, he didn't ask are you God? Why then do you ask if Jesus is God? 1 Like |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by gohf(op): 12:02pm On Jan 28, 2025 |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by gohf(op): 7:03pm On Jan 29, 2025 |
It is well |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Steep(m): 7:40pm On Jan 29, 2025 |
gohf:Do you know? Thomas confessed that Jesus is his Lord and God. John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. Paul confessed that Jesus is our great God and saviour Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Steep(m): 7:46pm On Jan 29, 2025 |
The Jews wanted to stone Jesus because he made himself God. Guess what Jesus calmed he has being sanctified by the father meaning whatever he says is true. John 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus reinforced his initial statement that he is one with God the Father by appealing to his Sonship. |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Janosky: 12:28am On Jan 30, 2025 |
Steep: The Biblehub commentary on John 10:33 knocked out your claim. Screenshot evidence. John 10:33 correct rendition: "(Jesus) Making himself a god". Check Emphatic Diaglott Bible. The context of John 10:34-36 proven that Biblehub commentary is very correct.. 
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| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Janosky: 12:37am On Jan 30, 2025 |
Steep:John 20:17, Jesus Christ has explained his stand and status. The context of John 20:12-29 proven your claim faulty. Thomas exclaimed in verse 28, because he was doubtful of Jesus resurrection. John 20:28 ends with exclamation mark. "Oh my God"/my God !/ my goodness"! are exclamation point. Paul is a confirmed staunch Judaist before conversion. After his conversion,he spoke @ Acts 9:20, the first sermon of Paul the apostle. He wrote 1 Corinthians 11:3. The same people who doctored 1 Timothy 3:16 tampered with Titus 2:13. Paul was never a Trinitarian.
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| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Steep(m): 4:27am On Jan 30, 2025 |
Janosky:
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| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Steep(m): 4:30am On Jan 30, 2025 |
Janosky:The question is who was Thomas speaking to? Answer Jesus Christ Thomas was exclaiming that Jesus was his Lord and God. |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by gohf(op): 3:58pm On Jan 30, 2025 |
Steep:the great God not gods, and our Savior Jesus Christ. If you listened all the times I answered you, you won't be repeated your folly again and again. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Steep(m): 8:22pm On Jan 30, 2025 |
gohf:Actually it is "our Great God and saviour" the original Greek translation ties great God and saviour together and apply it to one person which is Jesus christ. Paul literally called Jesus our great God and Saviour.
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| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Janosky: 11:34pm On Jan 30, 2025 |
Steep:
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| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Janosky: 11:50pm On Jan 30, 2025 |
Steep:1st point: You are vehemently denying John 20:17,24-31. 2nd point: The Response of Thomas 24 Now Thomas (called Didymus),[an] one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he replied,[ao] “Unless I see the wounds[ap] from the nails in his hands, and put my finger into the wounds from the nails, and put my hand into his side, I will never believe it!”[aq] John 20:24-27,Did Thomas believe Jesus resurrected? No ! Jesus told Thomas: "Do not continue in your unbelief, but believe" (in my resurrection). 26 Eight days later the disciples were again together in the house,[ar] and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were locked,[as] Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put[at] your finger here, and examine[au] my hands. Extend[av] your hand and put it[aw] into my side. Do not continue in your unbelief, but believe.”[ax] 28 Thomas replied to him,[ay] “My Lord and my God!”[az] 29 Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are the people[ba] who have not seen and yet have believed.”[bb] 30 Now Jesus performed[bc] many other miraculous signs in the presence of the[bd] disciples, which are not recorded[be] in this book.[bf] 3rd point: Thomas exclaimed to show his surprise that actually Jesus resurrected, cleared his doubt. 31 But these[bg] are recorded[bh] so that you may believe[bi] that Jesus is the Christ,[bj] the Son of God," John wrote and proven that verses 17 & 31 have knocked out your imaginary theory about verse 28 |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Janosky: 11:55pm On Jan 30, 2025 |
Steep:That verse is a subject of controversy because it conflicting with other Bible verses Paul wrote about Jesus. 1 Corinthians 11:3, is God is superior to himself? How many persons are spoken of in 1 Corinthians 11:3? |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:26am On Jan 31, 2025 |
Janosky:Abeg leave this guy's thread for him and his friends to continue arguing after all they will not welcome the only solution to this issue: God's Organized people. Act 1:8 If anyone wants to argue about who or what Jesus stands for let them present the organization that's working with Jesus as proof that they fully understand whom they are talking about. Jesus is Archangel Michael says Jehovah's Witnesses Organization and that's the one and only group fulfilling God's purpose others are just arguing up and down with nothing to show for their unwarranted arguments! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9 1 Like |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Steep(m): 9:32pm On Jan 31, 2025 |
Janosky:There is no controversy, It is very clear. Jesus is God. If you want answers you must first be honest with the text. It is overwhelming clear that scripture calls Jesus God. |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Janosky: 11:30pm On Jan 31, 2025 |
Steep:Oga, your claim D.O.A. You can argue as much as you want, the complete Jewish bible disagrees with your Trinitarian view. Oga Steep,You know what? Different Bible translations by Trinitarians rejected your claim about Titus 2:13, notably the popular King James Bible and American Standard Version plus Catholic Church Bible translations & others. John 17:3 Amplified Bible Now this is eternal life: that they may know You, the only true [supreme and sovereign] God, [b] Oga, your ghost deity didn't give these Trinitarian translators the intel deceiving you. Screenshot Evidences oooO *Douay-Rheims Bible Looking for the blessed hope and coming of the glory of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ, **Catholic Public Domain Version looking forward to the blessed hope and the advent of the glory of the great God and of our Savior Jesus Christ. +++New American Bible as we await the blessed hope, the appearance of the glory of the great God and of our savior Jesus Christ, ++++New Revised Standard Version while we wait for the blessed hope and the manifestation of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ. ***** Translations from Aramaic Lamsa Bible Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; ******Aramaic Bible in Plain English While we look for the blessed hope and the revelation of the glory of The Great God and Our Lifegiver, Yeshua The Messiah" Oga, your claim refuted by your fellow Trinitarians. Any Trinitarian view not supported by Catholic Church Bibles is D.O.A las las. [/b]
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| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by gohf(op): 3:21pm On Feb 01, 2025 |
2John.1.7 There are a lot of smooth-talking charlatans loose in the world who refuse to believe that Jesus Christ was truly human, a flesh-and-blood human being. Give them their true title: Deceiver! Antichrist! Steep |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Steep(m): 6:49pm On Feb 01, 2025 |
Janosky:Great God and saviour is Jesus.
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| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Steep(m): 6:50pm On Feb 01, 2025 |
gohf:Jesus is not just human he is God. |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by Janosky: 10:22pm On Feb 01, 2025 |
Steep:Your fellow Trinitarian devotees, translators no agree. They know that Paul was never a Trinitarian in his lifetime . |
| Re: Luke 7 & Matthew 8 Show That Jesus Is Not God by gohf(op): 11:18am On Feb 11, 2025 |
"Look at my servant, whom I strengthen. He is my chosen one, and I am pleased with him. I have put my Spirit upon him. He will reveal justice to the nations. He will be gentle--he will not shout or raise his voice in public. He will not crush those who are weak or quench the smallest hope. He will bring full justice to all who have been wronged. He will not stop until truth and righteousness prevail throughout the earth. Even distant lands beyond the sea will wait for his instruction." This is what God Jehovah says— the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out, who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it: “I, the LORD, have called you in righteousness; I will take hold of your hand. I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles, to open eyes that are blind, to free captives from prison and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness. Isaiah 42: 1 - 7 |
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