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Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Wallade(m): 8:11am On Jan 30, 2025
Starzo:
Stop saying what you don't know

How you people say ignorant things with so much confidence amuses me
What have I said that I don't know?

Even in Nigeria, do you know a president can not use executive fiat or order to fire a Civil Servant.

There are rules and procedures to disengage or fire a civil servant as backed by the civil service rules.

There shall be litigations to determine the legality of these disengagement of civil servants by the president.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Ojuntana: 8:18am On Jan 30, 2025
Wallade:
She is a career civil servant, not a political appointee. The executive president of USA can't fire her.

She has a good case against the sack. She should go to court.
The office of inspector General is a political appointment not civil servant office

Stop typing from ignorance

Trump is not the first president to fire an ig

Even Reagan and Obama did
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by RillJ(m): 8:19am On Jan 30, 2025
Very stupid of her trying to make nonsense of the nation's constitution and constituted authority.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Babangidapikin: 8:19am On Jan 30, 2025
cheesy I just hope Elon Musk has not insert a chip in Trumps Brain to control him
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Winnin009: 8:19am On Jan 30, 2025
Nwaikpe:
If she is leftist,

drag her out.

If she is muslim inclined,

Shoot her.
Lol... calm na bro. 🤣😅
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by DarkJeddi(m): 8:19am On Jan 30, 2025
AImiron:
She FAFO!! 🤣🤣🤣

Nlfpmod frontpage boss

Former USDA IG Phyllis Fong told government officials that that she didn’t recognize President Trump’s authority to fire her. She then refused to leave her office. Federal security agents were forced to physically remove her proving her firing was justified.
Forcefully removing someone from office does not prove her firing was right.
It simply means you have the FORCE to forcefully remove her from office..😂
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by hotseat: 8:22am On Jan 30, 2025
The Constitution of the USA is currently on vacation!



The country that once prided itself as the "Champion of Democracy" is now a totalitarian state where "executive orders" have taken the centre stage.


With the current trajectory, the USA may not be any better than Afghanistan.


America has been hijacked by oligarchs, megalomaniacs, narcissists and now operates a "one-man show".


Could anyone remind us when DT came back into office?


America is in turmoil and they seem not to know it.




@hotseat
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by adecz: 8:23am On Jan 30, 2025
Trump with his usual childish vindictiveness
is on a revenge mission In democratic country
like the USA 🇺🇸


I don't see this man ending well.


Time ⏲️ ⏳️ 🕐 🕙 🕚 though, will tell.

Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Wallade(m): 8:23am On Jan 30, 2025
Ojuntana:
The office of inspector General is a political appointment not civil servant office

Stop typing from ignorance

Trump is not the first president to fire an ig

Even Reagan and Obama did
Do you even do research before you talk, the essence of the research is to prevent you from spewing rubbish like you just did on nairaland.

Again, I insist that the office of an Inspector General in the USA is not a political appointment; it is a career driven appointment.

the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) in the United States is not a political appointment. Instead, the President nominates the Inspector General (IG) for Cabinet-level departments and major agencies, and the Senate confirms the appointment. The IG is appointed based on their integrity and their ability in areas like accounting, auditing, and law.

Explanation:
The IG is a nonpartisan official who leads the OIG, which is responsible for detecting and preventing waste, fraud, and abuse.
The IG's office conducts audits, investigations, and evaluations to recommend policy improvements.
The IG is independent and can't be prevented from conducting audits or investigations by the agency head or deputy.
The IG can be removed from office by the President, but the President must notify both houses of Congress of the reasons for the removal.
The OIG was created in 1978 in response to the Watergate Scandal.

Please research:
https://www.ignet.gov/content/frequently-asked-questions

How are IGs appointed and removed?
IGs are appointed without regard to their political affiliation.
The appointment is based on integrity and ability in:
accounting, auditing, financial analysis;
law, management analysis, public administration; or
investigations.
The President nominates IGs at Cabinet-level departments and major agencies with Senate confirmation. These IGs can only be removed by the President. The agency heads appoint and can remove IGs at designated Federal entities. Both houses of Congress must be notified if an IG is removed by the President or an agency head.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Winnin009: 8:27am On Jan 30, 2025
Starzo:
Stop saying what you don't know

How you people say ignorant things with so much confidence amuses me
What exactly was said the the person doesn't know?

Before you respond ehn.... read the link below.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5275424/president-trump-fired-more-that-a-dozen-inspectors-general-heres-why-that-matters
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Gandollar(f): 8:27am On Jan 30, 2025
DrAda:
How long do you think it will take before Americans launches a massive protest against Trump?
Is Trump doing anything bad? Any protest would be a minority few and they would be contained same way the 1500 capitol rioters were contained.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Julius1995(m): 8:28am On Jan 30, 2025
The opinion of a battered Nigerian. Do you not hear that there is protocol? She will go to court and probably be reinstated. What did you mean "the president firer a government employee"? You think this is Nigeria where the president is alpha and omega. Trump is obviously a third world country type leader who finds himself in a country like U.S.
NothingDoMe:
That's nonsense talk from her.

The president fired a government employee and the employee said the termination is not effective.

Now the government don use force remove her from their office her body don cool down.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Winnin009: 8:30am On Jan 30, 2025
Ojuntana:
The office of inspector General is a political appointment not civil servant office

Stop typing from ignorance

Trump is not the first president to fire an ig

Even Reagan and Obama did
Yes. They did by following the IG act that gives 30days notice and also required the president to present his reason for the sack before Congress..

Bro, just use the link to help yourself


https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5275424/president-trump-fired-more-that-a-dozen-inspectors-general-heres-why-that-matters
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Julius1995(m): 8:32am On Jan 30, 2025
Battered Nigerian. LOL. People who deserve BAT, Buhari, and all tge worst figures in the world as leaders. If the table turns, lets say BAT do same to a Nigerian of Igbo tribe, na you your wailing go loud pass
Starzo:
These people sha. Just because you have the mainstream media on your side you feel like you're above the law

President fired you and you say you don't recognize president's authority

Somebody need to put these people in their place...they feel like they're untouchable and unquestionable
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Starzo: 8:35am On Jan 30, 2025
Winnin009:
What exactly was said the the person doesn't know?

Before you respond ehn.... read the link below.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5275424/president-trump-fired-more-that-a-dozen-inspectors-general-heres-why-that-matters
It's you and the guy that should read broadly before typing




It now states that the presidency must have substantial reasons for the firing .

Stop following leftist propaganda sites
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by JuanDeDios: 8:35am On Jan 30, 2025
Creamypie:
She should be thankful she wasn't deported back to asia
You're one of those who think every non-Caucasian person is not American. As if whites are indigenous to the country.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by cl0r0x: 8:37am On Jan 30, 2025
Ndi criminal structure.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Starzo: 8:38am On Jan 30, 2025
Winnin009:
What exactly was said the the person doesn't know?

Before you respond ehn.... read the link below.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5275424/president-trump-fired-more-that-a-dozen-inspectors-general-heres-why-that-matters
Here's one for you....https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/trump-fired-17-inspectors-general-was-it-legal


These issues are complex

The supreme Court ultimately has the final say

The presidency still has the right to remove her. Only that it must give Congress reasons for doing it.

Her saying the presidency does not have the right to remove is another thing. It's blatant ignorance and disrespect for the number one office in the country
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Ojuntana: 8:40am On Jan 30, 2025
Wallade:
Do you even do research before you talk, the essence of the research is to prevent you from spewing rubbish like you just did on nairaland.

Again, I insist that the office of an Inspector General in the USA is not a political appointment; it is a career driven appointment.

the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) in the United States is not a political appointment. Instead, the President nominates the Inspector General (IG) for Cabinet-level departments and major agencies, and the Senate confirms the appointment. The IG is appointed based on their integrity and their ability in areas like accounting, auditing, and law.

Explanation:
The IG is a nonpartisan official who leads the OIG, which is responsible for detecting and preventing waste, fraud, and abuse.
The IG's office conducts audits, investigations, and evaluations to recommend policy improvements.
The IG is independent and can't be prevented from conducting audits or investigations by the agency head or deputy.
The IG can be removed from office by the President, but the President must notify both houses of Congress of the reasons for the removal.
The OIG was created in 1978 in response to the Watergate Scandal.

Please research:
https://www.ignet.gov/content/frequently-asked-questions

How are IGs appointed and removed?
IGs are appointed without regard to their political affiliation.
The appointment is based on integrity and ability in:
accounting, auditing, financial analysis;
law, management analysis, public administration; or
investigations.
The President nominates IGs at Cabinet-level departments and major agencies with Senate confirmation. These IGs can only be removed by the President. The agency heads appoint and can remove IGs at designated Federal entities. Both houses of Congress must be notified if an IG is removed by the President or an agency head.
Just look at yourself. You are simpy disgracing your education
You posted a "research" that says the IG is appointed by the President and you are still saying rubbish that the IG is not a political appointment. Do you even know what a political appointment means. Abeg go and rest and stop typing nonsense
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Ojuntana: 8:41am On Jan 30, 2025
Winnin009:
Yes. They did by following the IG act that gives 30days notice and also required the president to present his reason for the sack before Congress..

Bro, just use the link to help yourself


https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5275424/president-trump-fired-more-that-a-dozen-inspectors-general-heres-why-that-matters
You can argue about the modality of the sack. I'm not against that but to claim the President does not have the power to fire them is a big fat lie

He does. End of story
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Wallade(m): 8:42am On Jan 30, 2025
Ojuntana:
Just look at yourself. You are simpy disgracing your education
You posted a "research" that says the IG is appointed by the President and you are still saying rubbish that the IG is not a political appointment. Do you even know what a political appointment means. Abeg go and rest and stop typing nonsense
Did you read my post? Maybe you should read again and try to comprehend.

A political appointment is such that the president can appoint anybody, even outside civil service or from anywhere into an agency, ministry or department of government.

Career appointment can be done by the president or head of agency by recommendations of career officers for such position to the president, onward transmission of such candidate to the Congress for approval and subsequent appointment.

Did I just explain the difference to you or you still don't understand. If you don't, read and do more research about the subject yourself. I am done spooning you.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by dru23(m): 8:43am On Jan 30, 2025
NothingDoMe:
That's nonsense talk from her.

The president fired a government employee and the employee said the termination is not effective.

Now the government don use force remove her from their office her body don cool down.
Trump is behaving like a tyrant of a 3rd world countries. I no go mention names of the country or countries....

They are certain protocol Trump is suppose to follow. He fired over 1k federal workers which he is not suppose to do without Congress . He than offered those federal workers a compensation in exchange for their firing. Which he knows was wrong...

He will get nothing done through out his 4yrs in office. It will be court cases upon court cases...

If you don't see what Trump is doing is wrong. Than again people with your point of view deserves the type of leaders they get
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Gandollar(f): 8:43am On Jan 30, 2025
I support Trump because what he does, he does for the love of his country.

His methodology may be crude, but rest assure he's not doing it for more money into his pocket or to give undue advantage to his tribesman or for people of his faith.

Let this be a wake up call to African leaders to stop stealing the people's commonwealth, but use it to develop their countries to a standard where everyone can thrive and be proud to call home.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Starzo: 8:47am On Jan 30, 2025
Wallade:
Did you read my post? Maybe you should read again and try to comprehend
You're the one not comprehending....

Can she be removed by the president?,yes...it's written in the Constitution

Only that Congress has to be notified...

She didn't say due process was not followed. She expressly said the president does not have the right to remove her.

Either she's ignorant or a terrible liar who feels uncountable to the presidency. Either of these two scenarios make her unfit to hold key govt position.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by lomprico(m): 8:47am On Jan 30, 2025
DrAda:
How long do you think it will take before Americans launches a massive protest against Trump?
Which of the Americans ?
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Blackman101: 8:48am On Jan 30, 2025
My advice to anybody holding a sensitive Federal office in USA to resign now before been sack by Trump.


let the man rung the government the way he wants, if the people don't like it let them kick him out.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Winnin009: 8:49am On Jan 30, 2025
Starzo:
It's you and the guy that should read broadly before typing




It now states that the presidency must have substantial reasons for the firing .

Stop following leftist propaganda sites
Kindly share a link i can read. Would love to read just like I read the other guy's
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Starzo: 8:50am On Jan 30, 2025
Winnin009:
Kindly share a link i can read. Would love to read just like I read the other guy's
Already did
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Winnin009: 8:51am On Jan 30, 2025
Starzo:
You're the one not comprehending....

Can she be removed by the president?,yes...it's written in the Constitution

Only that Congress has to be notified...

She didn't say due process was not followed. She expressly said the president does not have the right to remove her.

Either she's ignorant or a terrible liar who feels uncountable to the presidency. Either of these two scenarios make her unfit to hold key govt position.
Mehn... English language will be the end of us all.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Wallade(m): 8:53am On Jan 30, 2025
Starzo:
You're the one not comprehending....

Can she be removed by the president?,yes...it's written in the Constitution

Only that Congress has to be notified...

She didn't say due process was not followed. She expressly said the president does not have the right to remove her.

Either she's ignorant or a terrible liar who feels uncountable to the presidency. Either of these two scenarios make her unfit to hold key govt position.
Did Trump notify the Congress before removing the Inspector Generals?

Trump has to notify the Congress with reasons or justification before he can remove her.

It is quite obvious that Trump is seeking and gearing to have absolute power, that is something no USA president had because of checks and balances.

Trump criticized African leadership recently but he covets the absolute power that fuelled corruption, bad leadership and bad governance in Africa.

I am afraid of what failure, terror and pevert USA will become with Trump as the president.

Besides, I want to answer your silly assumption that - She didn't say due process was not followed. She expressly said the president does not have the right to remove her.

I answer it with an extract of the original post of the main op:

"Phyllis Fong, a 22-year veteran of the department, had earlier told colleagues that she intended to stay after the White House terminated her Friday, saying that she didn’t believe the administration had followed proper protocols, the sources said"

This shows that you don't read to comprehend or you just don't read at all, you just talk - thrash talk.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Berankis: 8:54am On Jan 30, 2025
Kailalomo:
He should keep kicking the useless Democrats and their supporters ass, that's what they voted him for. He's on a revenge mission and to make the world sane again.
Okay na. 3690 of your brothers and sisters are coming home very soon. To add to your pressure, hope you are preparing to receive and accommodate them.
Re: USDA Inspector General Escorted Out Of Her Office After Defying White House by Roboto11: 8:55am On Jan 30, 2025
Babangidapikin:
cheesy I just hope Elon Musk has not insert a chip in Trumps Brain to control him
It's possible.

grin
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