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flyinnizam:
Someone should please educate what is the main cause of the war. We know Russia Ukraine cause, Israel Hamas war but this one is confusing even after using Google...surely the likes of God1000 and Botragelad will help

You 🤡 actually believe Botragelad can "help"

praxs:
Here is a brief recap of what is actually happening.
Before anything else, let’s start from pre-border era.

It’s a know fact that anytime that resides in between borders of two countries, will definitely have its people separated in between the two border countries. E.g, Hausa people of sokoto, samsara katsina state borders have its people both in Nigeria and Niger. After British drew the border lines which we all call countries today, the Hausa people of Niger became Niger citizens while Hausa people of Nigeria became Nigeria citizens.

Tutsi are a tribe found in border town between Congo (kivu province) and Rwanda. To be clear, president paul Kagame is a Tutsi by tribe. For several years, the Tutsi in Congo(M23) have been crying of marginalization by the Congolese government. The Congolese government have asserted severally during the past years that Tutsi are Rwandese citizens and not Congolese. Because of these marginalization, the Tutsis in Congo had to pick up arms to defend themselves and their people from exploitation of resources in their local region in Congo by the Congolese government. This became the genesis of the war. Now that the Congolese government doesn’t recognize them as Congolese, the M23 needs money and resources to sustain it self and its militant. Their region being rich in minerals, they delve into mining of the resources for export so they can get money. Part2

They only option to which the can export is through Rwanda since they are not recognized the congolese government. Now this is where the alleged “sponsorship by Kagame” comes in. As they are Tutsi by tribe, naturally Kagame will have sympathy for his tribal men. Thus, Kagame gave them access to export through Rwanda and most likely share a certain percentage with Rwandan government. This naturally makes them bond with the Rwandese.
As it is now, Congolese govt is saying Rwanda is sponsoring the M23 and they are not Congolese, they must go back to Rwanda. On the other hand, Kagame is denying this accusation and asserting that they are Congolese and not Rwandese, they will not be accepted as Rwandese just because they are Tutsi by tribe.
Hope this summary helps

Rooted in GREED,OPPRESSION and TRIBALISM!
You don't want to share power
You don't want to share resources or it's proceeds.
You don't share or accept other people's reasonable ideas
You don't want people to express their contrary views and grievances.
TRIBALISM, the cunning way to cause division and control people.

madridguy:
Let me tell you a short story.

Rwanda and Burundi are two central/East African countries who have almost the same ethnic make-up.
In both countries Hutu and Tutsis are the main ethnic groups.

In Rwanda, the minority Tutsis have been dominating the majority Hutus for the past 300 years politically and economically. In Burundi, the Majority Hutu is dominating the Minority Tutsis.

Both countries are literally at war asymmetrically because of Ethnic hegemony and ethnic differences that had existed since pre-colonial times. The Hutus were the land owners before the nomadic Tutsis invaded and subjugated the Hutus.
Rwanda and Burundi used to be one kingdom before colonialism broke it into two, which is the french and German controlled colonies.

As at today 11/01/2024, the Burundi government just expelled all Rwandans from their territory due to this historical/political tensions that has refused to go away.

Moral of the story is that, let no one with zero political and historical knowledge tell you that Ethnic identity doesn't matter in the fight for power and resources. Only a fool, will listen to such lies.

Copied.

You meant to tell me Belgium didn't have any influence especially over Rwanda at the Berlin conference in the late 1800s ?

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Including Lithium,Tantalum,etc

Enough of all these colonialism crap. Let there be Hutuland and Tutsiland and there will be peace.

flyinnizam:
Someone should please educate what is the main cause of the war. We know Russia Ukraine cause, Israel Hamas war but this one is confusing even after using Google...surely the likes of God1000 and Botragelad will help

My opinion is that the conflict involving Rwanda is being sponsored by the West in pursuit of cheap natural resources. Rwanda itself lacks significant natural resources, so Western powers provide it with money and weapons in exchange for access to Congo’s resources at a lower cost. Rwanda has a population of about 14 million, while Congo has over 100 million. If Congo were to declare war on Rwanda, the United Nations might intervene and compensate Rwanda by granting it parts of Congo that contain the resources they are fighting over. Remember, the UK once proposed relocating asylum seekers to Rwanda, which could be seen as a way to strengthen Rwanda’s position in the conflict.

Solid minerals. The west fueling the war in order to get cheap solid minerals from rebels.

From what I read today the president of DR Congo reneged on the agreement he made with M23 rebels. Mainly Tutsis, M23 rebel, has been betrayed by the current Congo president who has massacred most of them. Therefore Kagame of Rwanda, being a Tutsi himself is helping the M23 rebels tackle government forces.

Right to Mining region based on Ethnoreligious stand

Interesting, according to Congo, the land is Congo, but the inhabitants are Rwandese. If I may ask, who are the native or first settlers, the Tutsi or Hutsi?

praxs:
They only option to which the can export is through Rwanda since they are not recognized the congolese government. Now this is where the alleged “sponsorship by Kagame” comes in. As they are Tutsi by tribe, naturally Kagame will have sympathy for his tribal men. Thus, Kagame gave them access to export through Rwanda and most likely share a certain percentage with Rwandan government. This naturally makes them bond with the Rwandese.
As it is now, Congolese govt is saying Rwanda is sponsoring the M23 and they are not Congolese, they must go back to Rwanda. On the other hand, Kagame is denying this accusation and asserting that they are Congolese and not Rwandese, they will not be accepted as Rwandese just because they are Tutsi by tribe.
Hope this summary helps

You see that Berlin conference of 1885 ehn. Africa may never recover from it. Pure evil.

una see dat Rwanda eh!
make we dey pray for dem because the day Kagame go kpeme!

tinz go sup at once!

God1000:
It's a complicated story, but here's is a brief history of this conflict

Tutsi is one of Rwandan subtribe living in Eastern DRC since the colonial period. They own properties such as land , houses , farms etc but they've complained of marginalization from the government of congo, accusing DRC of treating them as non- residents or aliens.

The eastern Congo where Tutsi occupies is well endowed with natural resources such as Diamond, cobalt and Gold

Technically Kagame benefits from the minerals through his subtribe the Tutsi living in Eastern Congo, the reason for his involvement in the civil war happening in Goma and North Kivu.

We also have other local and international actors who are fighting for their own interest in DRC

Both the M23 rebels backed by Rwanda and Rwandan soldiers are fighting Congolese government in eastern DRC


Similar to what happened in eastern Ukraine when Russia invaded and took crimea in 2014, Putin felt the ethnic Russians living in eastern Ukraine were being persecuted by the government of Ukraine

But I don't support what Paul kagame is doing, he's destabilizing that region

What a wild theory to sell. You mean the president of Rwanda is from DR Congo?

praxs:
Here is a brief recap of what is actually happening.
Before anything else, let’s start from pre-border era.

It’s a known fact that people that resides in between borders of two countries, will definitely have its people separated in between the two border countries. E.g, Hausa people of sokoto, zamafa, katsina state borders have its people both in Nigeria and Niger. After British drew the border lines which we all call countries today, the Hausa people of Niger became Niger citizens while Hausa people of Nigeria became Nigeria citizens.

Tutsi are a tribe found in border town between Congo (kivu province) and Rwanda. To be clear, president paul Kagame is a Tutsi by tribe. For several years, the Tutsi in Congo(M23) have been crying of marginalization by the Congolese government. The Congolese government have asserted severally during the past years that Tutsi are Rwandese citizens and not Congolese. Because of these marginalization, the Tutsis in Congo had to pick up arms to defend themselves and their people from exploitation of resources in their local region in Congo by the Congolese government. This became the genesis of the war. Now that the Congolese government doesn’t recognize them as Congolese, the M23 needs money and resources to sustain it self and its militant. Their region being rich in minerals, they delve into mining of the resources for export so they can get money. Part2

You gave a clearer view. Tnx

CodeTemplar:
Hutus(largely of and Rwanda backed) are using the welfare of same Tutsis they massacred in 1994 as a pretext to invade resource rich eastern DR Congo and grab resources rich land for exploitation and exploration.

You are mixing the Hutus and Tutsis up. The M23 movement and Kagame are Tutsi and not Hutu.

Na mineral resources nah

shoodboi2:
You are mixing the Hutus and Tutsis up. The M23 movement and Kagame are Tutsi and not Hutu.

Really,so minorities from a minor adversary are humilating DR Congo?

praxs:
Here is a brief recap of what is actually happening.
Before anything else, let’s start from pre-border era.

It’s a known fact that people that resides in between borders of two countries, will definitely have its people separated in between the two border countries. E.g, Hausa people of sokoto, zamafa, katsina state borders have its people both in Nigeria and Niger. After British drew the border lines which we all call countries today, the Hausa people of Niger became Niger citizens while Hausa people of Nigeria became Nigeria citizens.

Tutsi are a tribe found in border town between Congo (kivu province) and Rwanda. To be clear, president paul Kagame is a Tutsi by tribe. For several years, the Tutsi in Congo(M23) have been crying of marginalization by the Congolese government. The Congolese government have asserted severally during the past years that Tutsi are Rwandese citizens and not Congolese. Because of these marginalization, the Tutsis in Congo had to pick up arms to defend themselves and their people from exploitation of resources in their local region in Congo by the Congolese government. This became the genesis of the war. Now that the Congolese government doesn’t recognize them as Congolese, the M23 needs money and resources to sustain it self and its militant. Their region being rich in minerals, they delve into mining of the resources for export so they can get money. Part2

Greed. The DRC want to eat their cake and have it. This conflict can be resolved if the DRC simply cedes the region back to Rwanda, but because of the mineral resources there, they want to keep exploiting the people and at the same time also keep rejecting them. It just won't work

Felabrity:
Mineral resources

Forget anything else they tell you

you mean na because of fanta and Coca-Cola dem dey fight?

FreeSpirited:
There's Chatgpt....to ask such question
There's Google......to ask and get better and varied answers
So Why Nairaland?

It hallucinates and makes up information. ChatGpt is a tool of misinformation if you rely on it.

papyjaypaul:
It hallucinates and makes up information. ChatGpt is a tool of misinformation if you rely on it.

and Nairaland is better alternative?

writetopoker601:
The war in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) is primarily caused by a combination of ethnic tensions, competition over vast natural resources (such as minerals), political instability, and interference from neighboring countries and armed groups. These factors have fueled prolonged conflict and violence in the region.

The immediate cause of the current conflict in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) is the resurgence of the M23 rebel group, which has been actively fighting government forces in the eastern region since late 2021. This group, allegedly backed by Rwanda (a claim Rwanda denies), is exploiting longstanding ethnic tensions, competition over land and resources, and the weak governance in the area. The conflict has displaced thousands and drawn in regional forces, including the East African Community (EAC) and UN peacekeepers, but a lasting resolution remains elusive.

straight from the lips of Chatgpt..

CodeTemplar:
What a wild theory to sell. You mean the president of Rwanda is from DR Congo?

Nope, he is from Rwanda, but there are his tribes in Congo as well. Just like you have Yorubas in Benin

CodeTemplar:
Hutus(largely of and Rwanda backed) are using the welfare of same Tutsis they massacred in 1994 as a pretext to invade resource rich eastern DR Congo and grab resources rich land for exploitation and exploration.

Ha

FreeSpirited:
and Nairaland is better alternative?

Try to rest , you’re irrelevant as the case maybe here

Ishilove:
Greed. The DRC want to eat their cake and have it. This conflict can be resolved if the DRC simply cedes the region back to Rwanda, but because of the mineral resources there, they want to keep exploiting the people and at the same time also keep rejecting them. It just won't work

You want to go and cede it for them
🙄🙄

Why's Tpain not bullying any of the countries?

God1000:
It's a complicated story, but here's is a brief history of this conflict

Tutsi is one of Rwandan subtribe living in Eastern DRC since the colonial period. They own properties such as land , houses , farms etc but they've complained of marginalization from the government of congo, accusing DRC of treating them as non- residents or aliens.

The eastern Congo where Tutsi occupies is well endowed with natural resources such as Diamond, cobalt and Gold

Technically Kagame benefits from the minerals through his subtribe the Tutsi living in Eastern Congo, the reason for his involvement in the civil war happening in Goma and North Kivu.

We also have other local and international actors who are fighting for their own interest in DRC

Both the M23 rebels backed by Rwanda and Rwandan soldiers are fighting Congolese government in eastern DRC


Similar to what happened in eastern Ukraine when Russia invaded and took crimea in 2014, Putin felt the ethnic Russians living in eastern Ukraine were being persecuted by the government of Ukraine

But I don't support what Paul kagame is doing, he's destabilizing that region

Thanks for this enlightenment. Very similar history with Eastern Nigeria politics,a tribe with so much resilient may God unite them against all odds.

baralatie:
You want to go and cede it for them
🙄🙄

"You people are not Congolese, but we will take the resources in your region."

flyinnizam:
Someone should please educate what is the main cause of the war. We know Russia Ukraine cause, Israel Hamas war but this one is confusing even after using Google...surely the likes of God1000 and Botragelad will help

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Local and international economic interests.

Those ammunitions do not fall from the sky.

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