₦airaland Forum

Creamypie:
oboy think b4 yslking. It's essential . Ned nwoko, just like every Delta north senator, from okowa, nwaboshi, Ned, etc. They didn't and haven't done anything tangible at all in their districts. Go and see what omo agege and piud ewherido did. U will think they have or had same capacity of a governor.am not a pdp, apc supporter. U say 2027? Ned nwoko knows that it was from kwale, abor zone result was cooked for him by okowa in d last minute just b4 apc was about to be declared the winner. They deliberately delayed the announcement for 2 hours.

Una dey think at all? It's by chance that Agege was settled with Deputy Senate Presidency. He was a deputy senate president hence can influence more project.

ElevationD:
You make me laugh young man. You made a very huge negative claim against a particular tribe in the same state where you come from, yet you are not able to either substantiate or defend your claim. Do not dance your way out of it.

I simply asked you to tell us how Delta became a state. I also asked you to defend your claim of hatred. Rather than discuss with decorum, you turned to cheekiness. I have not argued with you in anyway. I only asked you questions. Before proceeding with your statistics, discuss the questions without arguments.

“No point talking to you because if you have something…..”. Do you think that this forum is filled with dunces? Do you not expect to meet those who possibly are better informed than you and you can share knowledge with them?

“You cannot counter facts…”? Have you given response to my questions in the first place?

…get fixated on arguments””..,”? Did you not read my comments before responding? Did you notice any argument?

You talked of tribe and hatred. You then turned around to claim that others are “fixated on arguments about tribes of candidates rather than focus on how to avoid making poor political choices”. Why did you make the hatred comment in the first place, seeing that you could not defend your claim?

Ruke1989 has responded well to you by focusing more on points and reasons why Okowa and other politicians like him who can't bring development should not be voted and ignored your subtle attack on him.

In my views, he did well in his initial response to you and was civil. The only thing he should play down in his write up is tribalism and talking about real or perceived hatred for a tribe.

Wahala dey for Naija ooo and that means even if Nigeria is divided as some are saying, the issue of tribalism will still remain if people within same state are talking about tribalism. Its well.

Johnred77:
Ruke1989 has responded well to you by focusing more on points and reasons why Okowa and other politicians like him who can't bring development should not be voted and ignored your subtle attack on him.

In my views, he did well in his initial response to you and was civil. The only thing he should play down in his write up is tribalism and talking about real or perceived hatred for a tribe.

Wahala dey for Naija ooo and that means even if Nigeria is divided as some are saying, the issue of tribalism will still remain if people within same state are talking about tribalism. Its well.

As a Deltan, you must have facts to enable you discuss certain issues that affect the common interest of the state. Insecurity for example is of common interest to every Deltan, whether you are Isoko, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ukwuani, Anioma, etc. Every part of the state face the same challenge.

Take your time to read through my request for clarity from him.

Leadership successes, failures and challenges, including infrastructures could be discussed after taking away the contending issues of hatred tribalism.

When Ibori was the Governor, everyone queued behind him, irrespective of tribe or local government. He was the leader of all. As an Urhobo man, he was and is still loved by all in Delta state.

I only took exception to his choice of the word “hatred” and wanted him to offer some clarifications. At least that would help everyone better understand the state, contending matters and how to deal with them, for peaceful co-habitation.

This forum should be a place where people can discuss decently, with the desire for better information and improvement of self and society.

I am still waiting for him to respond to my request.

Thank you for your input.

Johnred77:
Ruke1989 has responded well to you by focusing more on points and reasons why Okowa and other politicians like him who can't bring development should not be voted and ignored your subtle attack on him.

In my views, he did well in his initial response to you and was civil. The only thing he should play down in his write up is tribalism and talking about real or perceived hatred for a tribe.

Wahala dey for Naija ooo and that means even if Nigeria is divided as some are saying, the issue of tribalism will still remain if people within same state are talking about tribalism. Its well.

I am an urhobo and I lived in asaba. After staying in ekiti for 10 years, I arrived asaba. I noticed the tribalism clearly among those guys.

First, beginning from the house I rented, the indigent asaba folks were always fond of saying urhobos and the warri based governors refused to develop asaba. But you will know they are just being malicious because most legacy projects in warri are federal govt projects attracted to warri and and urhobo land by urhobo senators and representatives at the federal level over the years. They are not state projects. The state has not really benefitted from the thieving governors

Asaba international airport was initiated by ibori (an urhobo) in the last few months of his administration, he spent 40 billion. At that time warri had a domestic airport - not international. Ibori didn't propose upgrading it. Why? That airport was serving a specific purpose- it served the oil sector, basically chevron workers who work in delta but had headquarters in Lagos.
Uduaghan govt continued the airport, spent another 40 billion. Yes, the work pace was slow. Okowa took over the airport, spent N120 billion which took him almost 8 years too to complete and commercialise. The credit rightly goes to okowa for not only completing it but more importantly, commercializing it.

I lived in warri all through ibori administration and if anyone wants to be objective, they will realize Ibori has no legacy project in warri beside relocation of domestic airport in warri to osubi - his projects are mostly in his village - oghara. Most infrastructure in warri predate ibori govt. Most projects came from military era federal govt and from the private oil companies. If he wants to counter this, let him name one ibori legacy project in warri? Or ughelli or any other part of urhobo land that makes them think urhobos deliberately underdeveloped asaba in favour of warri. Ibori and okowa are two sides of same coin.

Ibori built polytechnic near asaba Ie ogwashuku, built Stephen kechi stadium in asaba even hosted African cup of nations there. But I couldn't believe my ear to here the asaba folks claim ibori did not build stadium, did not start airport. Okowa renovated and upgraded the stadium, just the same way ibori upgraded and renovated warri stadium which he didn't build from scratch.

The spilling of bile is mostly from the oniocha/asaba folks who have even benefitted from govt. Most delta Igbos from ndokwa (kwale) axis and urhobos from ughelli axis who truly are marginalized and deserve urgent developmental projects don't spill bile from my encounter with them.

This guy arguing with me doesn't know I understand his language to be able to know what his people discuss right in the heart of asaba

ehikwe22:
Una dey think at all? It's by chance that Agege was settled with Deputy Senate Presidency. He was a deputy senate president hence can influence more project.

what about waive now, an ordinary house of rep member representing ughelli south that sent a bill for establishment of federal medical centre in his town ovwian, near warri and the bill scaled through. President tinubu signed it to law last week. DSC in warri came through senator Fred brume and also Fupre university in ugbomro, near warri also through late sen pius ewerhido bill. The problem with big men is that they are proud. If you have a very proud and selfish person representing you, they would feel too big to lobby their colleagues to secure projects

Promise47:
The 2 of them join+ he married a child he's a child abuser he's gone we await him to cry

bro you funny. You are right if you don't want a non performer to lead. That's just my point. Regardless of tribe or section, we need to ensure only performers get elected or reelected

ElevationD:
As a Deltan, you must have facts to enable you discuss certain issues that affect the common interest of the state. Insecurity for example is of common interest to every Deltan, whether you are Isoko, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ukwuani, Anioma, etc. Every part of the state face the same challenge.

Take your time to read through my request for clarity from him.

Leadership successes, failures and challenges, including infrastructures could be discussed after taking away the contending issues of hatred tribalism.

When Ibori was the Governor, everyone queued behind him, irrespective of tribe or local government. He was the leader of all. As an Urhobo man, he was and is still loved by all in Delta state.

I only took exception to his choice of the word “hatred” and wanted him to offer some clarifications. At least that would help everyone better understand the state, contending matters and how to deal with them, for peaceful co-habitation.

This forum should be a place where people can discuss decently, with the desire for better information and improvement of self and society.

I am still waiting for him to respond to my request.

Thank you for your input.

That doesn't change the fact that Ibori developed his Ethiope Area of Oghara and neighboring communities and abandoned the STATE CAPITAL. you guys abuse this STATE CAPITAL a lot. Regardless of how you look at it, capital is still capital

ehikwe22:
That doesn't change the fact that Ibori developed his Ethiope Area of Oghara and neighboring communities and abandoned the STATE CAPITAL. you guys abuse this STATE CAPITAL a lot. Regardless of how you look at it, capital is still capital

Please read my comments gently from the beginning for a better understanding. I already commented about your first paragraph, on why governors face their senatorial zones.

Do not forget that the military government did not do much after Asaba became the state capital. Asaba, just like most state capitals, was a glorified local government when Ibori became the governor. Certainly it would take more than his government to make Asaba what it should be. He did his best within his 8 years mandate. That’s why Ibori is still loved state wide. The same happened to other parts of the state.

However, we must not deny Ibori his development efforts in Delta state as a whole, inspite of the corruption charges. His projects are out there for all to see, if you can take your time to read through. That includes his projects in Asaba as the state capital.

By the way, do you know that the then Deputy Governor, Benjamin Else’s town, Obior, benefitted from Ibori’s government? His roads were built, street lights were installed and those traveling on the expressway from Benin to Ubulu Uku - Ogwashi Uku - Igbuzor, had a bypass for themselves with the good roads in Obior.

ElevationD:
Please read my comments gently from the beginning for a better understanding. I already commented about your first paragraph, on why governors face their senatorial zones.

Do not forget that the military government did not do much after Asaba became the state capital. Asaba, just like most state capitals, was a glorified local government when Ibori became the governor. Certainly it would take more than his government to make Asaba what it should be. He did his best within his 8 years mandate. That’s why Ibori is still loved state wide. The same happened to other parts of the state.

However, we must not deny Ibori his development efforts in Delta state as a whole, inspite of the corruption charges. His projects are out there for all to see, if you can take your time to read through. That includes his projects in Asaba as the state capital.

By the way, do you know that the then Deputy Governor, Benjamin Else’s town, Obior, benefitted from Ibori’s government? His roads were built, street lights were installed and those traveling on the expressway from Benin to Ubulu Uku - Ogwashi Uku - Igbuzor, had a bypass for themselves with the good roads in Obior.

you can see the hatred I talked about. Hatred is the reason they blindly deny the fact that ibori did anything at all in asaba. Most delta rural communities were not connected to Nepa light before ibori time. Ibori did his best in that regard. I am not from ibori LG but I can tell you my village got light during ibori time. Ibori improved salary state wide and ensured delta was the highest paying state. In asaba he started the airport. If okowa did everything in asaba, why did he not construct summit internal roads. He is known to have constructed okpanam road. So who constructed the other roads apart from okpanam. Who built ogwashuku polytechnic. Okowa concentrated on two towns in delta out of over 100 towns and they are using it to compare someone who apart from concentrating projects in his village, also tried to do one or two projects spread among many communities. Under okowa PDP communities suffered 10 years of darkness/no Nepa despite them bringing it to the governor attention through their PDP stalwarts. That community is mosogar. Agege offered to help them but they refused believing he wants to use it get political leverage. They waited on okowa promise to no avail for 10 years. That doesn't mean okowa did nothing anyway. He did for asaba and for owa alero