₦airaland Forum

ValarDoharis:
Why was he killed just 6months as head of state while Gowon was there for 9yrs? Why was Igboland divided in 1967 in a deleberate way to cut them from sea access after reneging on what was agreed at Aburi?

Why did he refuse to try the coup plotters for up to six months despite having arrested all of them successfully within a week after the coup itself? Is there any other military government in the history of Nigeria that delayed trial of arrested coup plotters for up to a month talkless of a whooping six months?

Why Did Ironsi, the Igbo president split the preexisting regions to groups of provinces in the first instance? Why not just leave them exactly the way he met them?
If Ironsi the Igbo extraction head of government had tried the coup plotters quickly and executed them, replaced Tarawa Balewa with Dipcharima whom the parliament democratically threw up, replaced the slain regional premiers with their deputies, left the constitution alone and returned to the barracks to continue his career as a professional army officer, do you think Gowon would have ever had the opportunity to smell power let alone create 12 states?

How is Ironsi Igbo president?

How did he split the 4 regions when Gowon inherited 4 regions?

Did Gowon kill the coup plotters after he took over?

Are you sure you're not dishing beer parlour gossips?

Deadlytruth:
Why did he refuse to try the coup plotters for up to six months despite having arrested all of them successfully within a week after the coup itself? Is there any other military government in the history of Nigeria that delayed trial of arrested coup plotters for up to a month talkless of a whooping six months?

Why Did Ironsi, the Igbo president split the preexisting regions to groups of provinces in the first instance? Why not just leave them exactly the way he met them?
If Ironsi the Igbo extraction head of government had tried the coup plotters quickly and executed them, replaced Tarawa Balewa with Dipcharima whom the parliament democratically three up, replaced the slain regional premiers with their deputies, left the constitution alone and returned to the barracks to continue his career as a professional army officer, do you think Gowon would have ever had the opportunity to smell power let alone create 12 states?

EXOUSIAng:
19 states in the North
5 states in the East

I think its only a mentally ill person that should expect things to be shared in the same percentage especially when those from the 5 states have made themselves an enemy of the North and their fellow southerners....

The north will always have the higher share.

Lets not even talk about what this 5states are
bringing to the national treasury....

Or should we talk about the fact that these 5states are less than some northern states in Land mass and that each northern state can still be broken into 3 additional state each?

You may argue that its not about landmass.

But you know the reality





The North has a higher percentage in the total number of states. If I was dealing with the Yorubas or, Ijaw who are actually known for having a higher IQ I would have expected these comments to tell us how the North with 19 states who actually contribute more to the National treasury and also feed most of the country is expected to get exactly what the SE with 5states get, but you are the set of people who dont even know their 123 which is why you a call everyone with a few thousands and a car a billionaire.
Even if we say we give 1 per state the SE wants to get 19 ministers because the North will get 19 ministers at 1minister per state.
I think its regional mental problem


This is yet another thing I forgot to mention...
This your foul mouth is the reason why even when you are qualified for a position you dont get it, but it think its insulting people upandan, bragging and making noise is a part of the Igbo cultural heritage anyways....

Anyone with a brain as small as that of a rat would know that when he has problems with everyone around him, from the south, to the north to the west, he most definitely is the major problem.....
Nobody hates the igbos, people just hate this your character

North = 19 states
East 5 states. So because South East is 5 states the government won't invest in it. The sea ports closer to the South East should not operate to full capacity even though the South Easterners are mainly business people that do a lot of importations. See your mouth that the north is feeding the whole nation as if they distribute food for free. After taking the lion share the north still remains the poverty capital of the whole world. I tot they are "feeding the whole Nigeria"🤣🤣🤣🤣

Shikena:
Ijaw marginalization no matter? Tiv, Igala, Ogoni, Ikwerre, Ibiobio, Efik, Nupe, Idoma etc.

They should speak out and stop hiding under the guise that they are not Igbo.

In all these arguments, if you pin a person down to a spot, you yourself is going NOWHERE! That is the case of NIGERIA. Fact! If you like argue from now till tomorrow, that is the principle of life. You must let go in order to move forward.

aspabay:
Employee one person from each region

North will have 19
SW will have 6
SS will have 7
SE will have 5

Yet SE will claim marginalisation.


During GEJ era SS and SE were having all the appointments, where was this olodo native doctor that time. The SW kept quite and strategised on how to get back to the Center.

Victim mentality criers.

Have you ever asked yourself why Nigeria has been moving in circles since it was created. Both the North, South East and South west are all grooping in darkness without knowing the right direction to follow. It is a principle of life that you must move in the right direction before you get to your desired destination. No corner corner. The latest of the numerous wrong direction is "teaching Igbos a political lessons" Now everybody is suffering from the consequences. Should I give you mòre examples?

lagonovo:
Sentiment aside, Oyo is marginalized too though they don't talk about it. Oyo competes in size with the entire Igbo land and it's just one of several states in the South West. Yet, Oyo has just one governor and just 3 senators while Igbo land has several governors and numerous senators. That is marginalization.

So some northern states that are bigger than Oyo should have 4 governors right?? Lol

Earthquakes:
So some northern states that are bigger than Oyo should have 4 governors right?? Lol

If they combine that with high VAT contribution, why not?

strangest:
Fact....

Nonsense.

NewsmaxNigeria:
Chike Obidigbo Ph.D

The restructuring of Nigeria to create more states for the northern states to the detriment of the Southern Nigeria, especially, the Southeast was not only an impediment politically. Britain orchaestrated that simply to restrain the economic potentials of the Igbo people negatively.

Source : https://newsmaxng.com/2025/02/02/igbo-marginalization-fact-or-fanciful-claim/

And this man has a Ph.D!

Britain is the one that orchestrated state creation in Nigeria against Ndigbo.

He said he has a PhD from Commonwealth University Belize. A school with no website and that has been busted as fake:

https://thestreetjournal.org/busted-education-minister-approves-curriculum-programme-for-fake-commonwealth-university-despite-ban-in-ghana/?__cf_chl_tk=v9QhuvOW0kCI7MjCtxzM.LNephgTparKQjG3YuAsB_o-1738544207-1.0.1.1-831ZpgG_HEKK7vWsivypcgCMzWrIKzk91Tz_0ZLMTmk

TenQ:
As far as I am concerned, until we have an Igbo President, the Igbos are marginalized in Nigeria.


By the way: I am not Igbo!

And until Ndigbo stop with the bullying abuses and insults and reach out to people in a polite and respectful manner, there will not be an Ndigbo President.

And I say this wanting an Ndigbo to be President.

Streetinvestor2:
The SW has been using igbos to play thr game.This will change in 2027 to remove the SW president. Nothing can stop it

How has the SW being using Ndigbo when Ndigbo have never voted "SW" parties since the beginning of time?

AG, UPN, AC and APC are (so called) Yoruba parties that the SE never voted for.

Prior to the last elections, SE were all in with PDP despite that party giving them shishi (I guess Peter Obi as VP is something).

igbosarejews:
Your Nigerian led Federal government is the terrorist here and you o yes supporters. Igbos said they want to be on their own, una say no.

Go through your Abuja reps.

Don't continue brutalising Ndigbo in al'igbo, you would never achieve your aim that way

aswani:
Go through your Abuja reps.

Don't continue brutalising Ndigbo in al'igbo, you would never achieve your aim that way

I think y'all are the one's against the interest of what the Igbo's want. The only people feeling brutalized are the so called Abuja reps and they don't represent the Igbo's interest. No house hold in south east, that doesn't support IPOB or a member of Indigenous people of Biafra, there's no particular people that are IPOB, but the whole of Igbo race.

igbosarejews:
I think y'all are the one's against the interest of what the Igbo's want. The only people feeling brutalized are the so called Abuja reps and they don't represent the Igbo's interest. No house hold in south east, that doesn't support IPOB or a member of Indigenous people of Biafra, there's no particular people that are IPOB, but the whole of Igbo race.

Okay if your current set of reps don't represent you, vote them out and replace them with those that will represent and prioritize Ndigbo interests of secession.

I am very sure Igbo households that have suffered brrutalisaion and even fatalities at the hands of IPOB don't support them so you are wrong in saying the whole Igbo race do.

I keep saying, if Ndigbo propose secession, they will be surprised at how quickly their motion passes through in Abuja. Peaceful and smooth, how isn't that better than the wickedness of the enforcement of sit at home, especially against school children.

ValarDoharis:
How is Ironsi Igbo president?

How did he split the 4 regions when Gowon inherited 4 regions?

Did Gowon kill the coup plotters after he took over?

Are you sure you're not dishing beer parlour gossips?

Was Ironsi not an Igbo man? Why asking how Ironsi was an Igbo president? Was he a Northerner or a Yoruba or a SS man? Are you trying to deny that Ironsi was an Igbo man or what?

Gowon inherited powerless groups of provinces and not regions. In fact at some point Gowon had to make a decree reverting the regions to their previous autonomy which Ironsi stripped them of. If Ironsi didn't tamper with the regions at all, then how come in his May 29 national broadcast he kept on referring to them as 'former regions'? What is the meaning of the word 'former' if I may ask? And why did he ask the heads he imposed on the groups of provinces to be reporting to him at the center? Were the premiers of the previous actual four regions reporting to Balewa at the center before the coup? Your position now is akin to claiming that Nigeria presently operates regional system just because things like NE, NW, NC, SE, SW and SS exist when in actual fact these regions are not federating units and are not legal entities. Don't use sophistry here to twist facts. So if, by the time Tinubu leaves office, he begins to claim that he left Nigeria with true federalism just because whoever will succeed him then will inherit the present six regions, will you agree with him? Why being this dishonest?

Does the fact that Gowon didn't kill the coup plotters change the fact that Ironsi's refusal to kill them led to his own overthrow and murder? Check very well, you are the one dishing out beer parlour and kain kain joint gossip.

How many provinces?

Being Igbo does not mean he has Igbos mandate? Did Igbos vote for him?

You said Gowon reversed what he did, why are you still blaming him?

Deadlytruth:
Was Ironsi not an Igbo man? Why asking how Ironsi was an Igbo president? Was he a Northerner or a Yoruba or a SS man? Are you trying to deny that Ironsi was an Igbo man or what?

Gowon inherited powerless groups of provinces and not regions. In fact at some point Gowon had to make a decree reverting the regions to their previous autonomy which Ironsi stripped them of. If Ironsi didn't tamper with the regions at all, then how come in his May 29 national broadcast he kept on referring to them as 'former regions'? What is the meaning of the word 'former' if I may ask? And why did he ask the heads he imposed on the groups of provinces to be reporting to him at the center? Were the premiers of the previous actual four regions reporting to Balewa at the center before the coup? Your position now is akin to claiming that Nigeria presently operates regional system just because things like NE, NW, NC, SE, SW and SS exist when in actual fact these regions are not federating units and are not legal entities. Don't use sophistry here to twist facts. So if, by the time Tinubu leaves office, he begins to claim that he left Nigeria with true federalism just because whoever will succeed him then will inherit the present six regions, will you agree with him? Why being this dishonest?

Does the fact that Gowon didn't kill the coup plotters change the fact that Ironsi's refusal to kill them led to his own overthrow and murder? Check very well, you are the one dishing out beer parlour and kain kain joint gossip.

aswani:
Okay if your current set of reps don't represent you, vote them out and replace them with those that will represent and prioritize Ndigbo interests of secession.

I am very sure Igbo households that have suffered brrutalisaion and even fatalities at the hands of IPOB don't support them so you are wrong in saying the whole Igbo race do.

I keep saying, if Ndigbo propose secession, they will be surprised at how quickly their motion passes through in Abuja. Peaceful and smooth, how isn't that better than the wickedness of the enforcement of sit at home, especially against school children.

Oga, no bonafide son of Igbo land that will say he doesn't want Biafra even the so called reps, if they wouldn't be silenced by Nigerian actors. like I said the set of rep you mentioned, does not represent what Ndi Igbo's wants. Tell me which of them will speak up, when they're Anti Igbo and Anti Biafran law Makers in their numbers from both north, south west and some so called south south. If you feel that Biafra is not supported by Majority of Igbos, let your government call for referendum, better still come to any Igbo market and speak against Biafra, then the Igbo women will decend on you as never before first. We know those committing crimes in Igbo land, which the government is part of it.

aswani:
And until Ndigbo stop with the bullying abuses and insults and reach out to people in a polite and respectful manner, there will not be an Ndigbo President.

And I say this wanting an Ndigbo to be President.

I can understand your sentiments about the ugly nature of some Igbos, but we shouldn't allow it to define all of them. Some Yorubas on Nairaland are as toxic than even the Igbos they cry about.

This nature is also probably because they feel marginalized by the West and North of Nigeria

igbosarejews:
Oga, no bonafide son of Igbo land that will say he doesn't want Biafra even the so called reps, if they wouldn't be silenced by Nigerian actors. like I said the set of rep you mentioned, does not represent what Ndi Igbo's wants. Tell me which of them will speak up, when they're Anti Igbo and Anti Biafran law Makers in their numbers from both north, south west and some so called south south. If you feel that Biafra is not supported by Majority of Igbos, let your government call for referendum, better still come to any Igbo market and speak against Biafra, then the Igbo women will decend on you as never before first. We know those committing crimes in Igbo land, which the government is part of it.

If majority are pro Biafra, why can't Ndigbo vote people from the majority?

Government can't just offer a referendum, someone has to propose the motion and it has to pass through Abuja.

It is not about speaking against Biafra, I myself want it, it is about taking a peaceful path to actualise it.

All the killings and maimings and sit-at-home in the east, where has that gotten Ndigbo?

At least recall your reps and give the ones you are replacing them with specific instructions to propose a referendum. You might be surprised that the anti-Igbo lawmakers from other parts of the county might be happy for you to secede at this point.

At least try that path first.

TenQ:
I can understand your sentiments about the ugly nature of some Igbos, but we shouldn't allow it to define all of them. Some Yorubas on Nairaland are as toxic than even the Igbos they cry about.

This nature is also probably because they feel marginalized by the West and North of Nigeria

We are in agreement, Ndi Yoruba toxicity will also cost them eventually even though my observations are they are fighting back against relentless abuse on here.

Look at President Tinubu during the campaign, acting senile and playing possum, as soon as he gets in, no more bulaba, he has even gone after the North and shown his ruthlessness. That's the kind of "cunny man die, cunny man bury am" attitude Ndigbo need.

Not the abuse and insult between the Presidential and Gubernatorial elections on Lagos state that cost Chinedu Gbadebo the governorship riding on the back of Peter Obi.

Just to confirm, I am not using it to define Ndigbo. I understand it's a "small minority" empty barrel making the most noise loudmouth group, sadly they are front and center.

aswani:
We are in agreement, Ndi Yoruba toxicity will also cost them eventually even though my observations are they are fighting back against relentless abuse on here.

Look at President Tinubu during the campaign, acting senile and playing possum, as soon as he gets in, no more bulaba, he has even gone after the North and shown his ruthlessness. That's the kind of "cunny man die, cunny man bury am" attitude Ndigbo need.

Not the abuse and insult between the Presidential and Gubernatorial elections on Lagos state that cost Chinedu Gbadebo the governorship riding on the back of Peter Obi.

Just to confirm, I am not using it to define Ndigbo. I understand it's a "small minority" empty barrel making theodt noise loudmouth group, sadly they are front and center.

There were so many Yoruba that voted against Tinubu but voted Obi in the last election. It is painful when such are rolled up as Anti-Igbo in discussions involving Nigeria politics.
If both Igbo and Yoruba can come together as one, they could form a formidable force.

The constant fight has only given the North more power over them but is seems either they don't know or they do not care. There is no election that the West can win alone and neither is their an election that the East can win alone. Only the North seem united.

But ignorant shallow brained people will not think!
SMH!

EXOUSIAng:
19 states in the North
5 states in the East

I think its only a mentally ill person that should expect things to be shared in the same percentage especially when those from the 5 states have made themselves an enemy of the North and their fellow southerners....

The north will always have the higher share.

Lets not even talk about what this 5states are
bringing to the national treasury....

Or should we talk about the fact that these 5states are less than some northern states in Land mass and that each northern state can still be broken into 3 additional state each?

You may argue that its not about landmass.

But you know the reality





The North has a higher percentage in the total number of states. If I was dealing with the Yorubas or, Ijaw who are actually known for having a higher IQ I would have expected these comments to tell us how the North with 19 states who actually contribute more to the National treasury and also feed most of the country is expected to get exactly what the SE with 5states get, but you are the set of people who dont even know their 123 which is why you a call everyone with a few thousands and a car a billionaire.
Even if we say we give 1 per state the SE wants to get 19 ministers because the North will get 19 ministers at 1minister per state.
I think its regional mental problem


This is yet another thing I forgot to mention...
This your foul mouth is the reason why even when you are qualified for a position you dont get it, but it think its insulting people upandan, bragging and making noise is a part of the Igbo cultural heritage anyways....

Anyone with a brain as small as that of a rat would know that when he has problems with everyone around him, from the south, to the north to the west, he most definitely is the major problem.....
Nobody hates the igbos, people just hate this your character

Just be proud and say you hate the Igbos no body will beat you. LoL talking of IQ, you people and delusion

aswani:
If majority are pro Biafra, why can't Ndigbo vote people from the majority?

Government can't just offer a referendum, someone has to propose the motion and it has to pass through Abuja.

It is not about speaking against Biafra, I myself want it, it is about taking a peaceful path to actualise it.

All the killings and maimings and sit-at-home in the east, where has that gotten Ndigbo?

At least recall your reps and give the ones you are replacing them with specific instructions to propose a referendum. You might be surprised that the anti-Igbo lawmakers from other parts of the county might be happy for you to secede at this point.

At least try that path first.

We're observing the sit at home out of our own passion for the Igbo hero, Nnamdi Kanu. It's our headache.
Lol, We all know how your Yoruba people and Hausa/Fulani don't want to hear about that word Biafra. Even when it's mentioned here in Nairaland, we all see even from y'all reaction.

TenQ:
There were so many Yoruba that voted against Tinubu but voted Obi in the last election. It is painful when such are rolled up as Anti-Igbo in discussions involving Nigeria politics.
If both Igbo and Yoruba can come together as one, they could form a formidable force.

The constant fight has only given the North more power over them but is seems either they don't know or they do not care. There is no election that the West can win alone and neither is their an election that the East can win alone. Only the North seem united.

But ignorant shallow brained people will not think!
SMH!

What you just posted here is the absolute truth.

Hopefully, more people realise the real enemy of Nigerians is the Northern Political cabal who don't care about their own people and just want power.

I also wish Ndigbo and Ndi Yoruba would just stop to think instead of the current state of unhealthy rivalry playing into the hands of the Northern Cabal.

igbosarejews:
We're observing the sit at home out of our own passion for the Igbo hero, Nnamdi Kanu. It's our headache.
Lol, We all know how your Yoruba people and Hausa/Fulani don't want to hear about that word Biafra. Even when it's mentioned here in Nairaland, we all see even from y'all reaction.

Biafra is not a dirty word to a lot of people, like I said, you will be surprised to how many non Ndigbo want it actualised.

It's not your headache when children in school uniform are being brutalised for the effontery of wanting to go to school on a Monday. They are fellow Nigerians and it is my headavhe too.

helinues:
It's fanciful and jokes

What should the minority tribes in Nigeria say ? The Igbo's have been miscalculating politically in Nigeria while blaming others for their actions

What are you calculating? Is the north that's helping you just to avoid the Igbo, same thing we are talking about. The day north get you in their bad book you'd understand you're not politically smart than others

aswani:
What you just posted here is the absolute truth.

Hopefully, more people realise the real enemy of Nigerians is the Northern Political cabal who don't care about their own people and just want power.

I also wish Ndigbo and Ndi Yoruba would just stop to think instead of the current state of unhealthy rivalry playing into the hands of the Northern Cabal.

I hope so too o!
The south either East or West is generally more progressive than the North and it would have been easy to carve out the north central to join the south.

Unfortunately, as long as this unhealthy rivalry is going on, the North wins and then all of us will start complaining.

The problem of the North is generally their leadership who think only in terms of getting power to accumulate personal wealth. They don't care if the North in average is not educated as long as they control money and power

SmartPolician:
Why does NITDA have offices in all geopolitical zones except the South East? Nigeria doesn't want the IT industry in the region to grow but SE zone has the highest number of police extortion points in the country!

If your observation is true, why hasn't any of your governor or senator talked about that? Not talking about it means it is never an issue, you only talked on what you don't understand and ignorant of. Few federal government in your area, is it not ipob that keeps destroying anything federal presence? Is it not ipob that even destroyed ordinary open university in your area? Why killing yourself and still crying? Why won't police have reasons to mount extortion points as you alleged if not for the fact that ipob keeps killing your Ezes, rich and poor in the society.

The only reason to keep police out of your roads is to see ipob coming out to surrender to police and promise not to collect donations from igbos to kill igbos again. And when assurance comes from your state government that they are now capable and I control of the region in terms of security, then; police can reduce checking points from south east

Deadlytruth:
The fear of disintegration was introduced into Nigeria by Nnamdi Azikiwe. Was he a Northerner?

Zik was a nationalist and not a parasitic element like you people are shamelessly today. Zik is Igbo and today his Igbo wants out of the country.
Question still stands,why are you mallams the only people,region afraid of total restructuring resources control,true federalism and of course,disintegration?

smartlad:
Nairaland mods are biased. Anything against the igbos reach front page in seconds

How's this against Igbo?

Did you read the post at all or you have issues comprehending basic sentences?

Is the article not pro-Igbo?

aswani:
Biafra is not a dirty word to a lot of people, like I said, you will be suroreas to how many Mon Ndigbo want it actualised.

It's not your headache when children in school uniform are being brutalised for the effontery of wanting to go to school on a Monday. They are fellow Nigerians and it is my headavhe too.

Na only una wey no be Igbo's dey carry am for head, just like we easterners care or are complaining