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ukaface:
But dissolution based on impotence is not the biblical reason for a divorce

Adultery, right?

Marriage is not spiritually valid until consummated.

If it cannot be consummated because the man is impotent, the marriage is simply null and void.

Its dissolution is merely ceremonial, it was never a marriage in the first place.

Kobojunkie:
1. There is what you say and there are the facts on the ground that counter your claims. 😏

2. So, this almighty made the teeth, the head, the anus, the legs, the hands, the d--ck, but made plans specifically for how the vagina alone should be utilized? Clearly, he is a sex god of some sort whose particular focus seems to be on the vagina which he installed on the female population, right?

3. Respect isn't mutual though. I respect others even if they do not respect me. It is a choice and is not always guaranteed to be mutual. But here you seem to assert that you can only respect a woman if and only if she respects you too. Clearly, this is completely removed from the claims you made earlier that a woman is seen as your equal and you respect her equally and all of that yap earlier!

Okay I was addressing the topic at hand. He has instructions for everything He has made. Not just the .....thingy. He has instructions for everything. All the body and how it should be used maintained and what it should never be used for.
For me I still respect women even when thy don't respect me. What I meant by mutual is in a Marriage or relationship. Even in every way or place where there is human relationship it should be so. But we are to love and respect even when we don't get the same response because that is what God did for us.

GiftofGod77:
➜Okay I was addressing the topic at hand. He has instructions for everything He has made. Not just the .....thingy. He has instructions for everything. All the body and how it should be used maintained and what it should never be used for.
➜For me I still respect women even when thy don't respect me.
➜What I meant by mutual is in a Marriage or relationship. Even in every way or place where there is human relationship it should be so. But we are to love and respect even when we don't get the same response because that is what God did for us.

He does? What is this almighty's specific instructions on how to use the teeth, the anus, the navel, etc? Let's hear it.

2. So, you say you respect all women but you impose specific rules on how women can use their vaginas because your deity laid down specific rules for that as far as even those who don't believe in your deity?

3. So, in a marriage or close relationship, if the respect is not mutual, then it should not exist at all. I am interested in knowing what happens when respect is not mutual.

Kobojunkie:
How can I agree with what are clearly delusional lies?

Okay o I heard you.

DIVINEEVIDENCE:
Marriage is not spiritually valid until consummated.

If it cannot be consummated because the man is impotent, the marriage is simply null and void.

Its dissolution is merely ceremonial, it was never a marriage in the first place.

You are confusing me

So you are saying that even after the exchange of vows, it is valid to call it quits if the man is impotent? Does the church know about this? Or you are making this up

Marriage is not spiritually valid until consummated? You joking right?

Kobojunkie:
He does? What is this almighty's specific instructions on how to use the teeth, the anus, the navel, etc? Let's hear it.

2. So, you say you respect all women but you impose specific rules on how women can use their vaginas because your deity laid down specific rules for that as far as even those who don't believe in your deity?

3. So, in a marriage or close relationship, if the respect is not mutual, then it should not exist at all. I am interested in knowing what happens when respect is not mutual.

1. They are to be kept clean and not to be used for any purpose other than intended purpose other wise regarded as immoral. For example, this thing called anal sex is an aberration to what it meant to used for. Taking of drugs in terms of drug abuse is also an abuse. They are to be kept clean because the body is the Temple of God here on earth. They are never to be used for the purposes they were not meant to be used such as for evil purposes.
2. Please the private part of a woman is made for her husband in holy matrimony. Giving it to men not married or chosen by God to be husbands is an aberration with consequences. So please I never impose any rules on woman except the One who made the women and it is for the good and pure holy living with the dignity deserving for all humankind. Such rules is for the prosperous living of not only women but for men too with our own rules.
3. In a marriage when respect is not mutual there are bound be issues. For example the woman will feel belittled and this will make her not to give in her very best. At times she will even begin to scheme against her man especially if she sees other men who may be giving their own woman respect the deserve. It is not even God's plan in the first place.

Kobojunkie:
Whoever what?

Whoever will humble themselves, acknowledge that they have sinned against God and need His help. Then they acknowledge and accept His Son Jesus Christ as their Saviour then He God will adopt them to be His children. As long as they or "whoever" believes in God's Will and Plan in Christ they become the sons of God. This is something we should never take for granted and we must give God all the glory and thanks for this. If not there will be no hope.

GiftofGod77:
1. They are to be kept clean and not to be used for any purpose other than intended purpose other wise regarded as immoral. For example, this thing called anal sex is an aberration to what it meant to used for. Taking of drugs in terms of drug abuse is also an abuse. They are to be kept clean because the body is the Temple of God here on earth. They are never to be used for the purposes they were not meant to be used such as for evil purposes.

1. Who is this deity of yours who gave you all those supposed rules you have there? There are over 4000 deities identified out there so which one of them told you to keep your teeth, legs, and bellybutton clean? Which one? We need to be clear of the identify before we proceed.

Kobojunkie:
Is that like saying when a Juju worshipper also worships or mediates on his own ideas, gets inspiration and understanding, he is equally on a spiritual scape as well?

2. How in the world is your spiritual claim any different from that of those who believe in mystical phoenix birds abeg? No be the same thing you dey claim they too dey claim? What proof do you have that your spiritual is different from their spiritual bullsheet?

I think you did not get me well there, I meant it is not like those other ones who get theirs from demons. I mean it is a genuine experience that lifts and edifies and clearly manifests the presence of God in a humble vessel such as me. They are not the same. Never will be.

Kobojunkie:
1. Who is this deity of yours who gave you all those supposed rules you have there? There are over 4000 deities identified out there so which one of them told you to keep your teeth, legs, and bellybutton clean? Which one? We need to be clear of the identify before we proceed.

The One Deity who made the heavens and the earth. Who is the Almighty and All Holy God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. He has many names. The All Knowing, The Alpha and Omega... There are no other ones except Him. Only jokers....very funny ones too wannabes....

GiftofGod77:
➜2. Please the private part of a woman is made for her husband in holy matrimony.
➜Giving it to men not married or chosen by God to be husbands is an aberration with consequences.
➜So please I never impose any rules on woman except the One who made the women and it is for the good and pure holy living with the dignity deserving for all humankind. Such rules is for the prosperous living of not only women but for men too with our own rules.
3. In a marriage when respect is not mutual there are bound be issues. For example the woman will feel belittled and this will make her not to give in her very best. At times she will even begin to scheme against her man especially if she sees other men who may be giving their own woman respect the deserve. It is not even God's plan in the first place.

1. Your deity explicitly stated that the private part of a woman is made for her husband. So, the woman has no bodily autonomy of any kind? Is her private part is exclusive property of her husband?

2. So, your deity also requires that women without intention to marry at all also have their private parts seized by men only, abi?

3. You just claimed the private part of a married woman belongs to her husband. That is an imposition. You also stated that the private part of any woman belongs only to her husband meaning that women who are not married do not clearly own their body because according to you, it has to be the property of men.

4. You folks like to tell tales. I didn't ask you about marriage but about respect. According to you, your sex deity wants women's vagina's to belong to their husbands. But what about people who don't believe in your god and his ideals? Do you mutually respect them or impose your own deity's ideas on them disrespectfully?

GiftofGod77:
➜The One Deity who made the heavens and the earth. Who is the Almighty and All Holy God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. He has many names. The All Knowing, The Alpha and Omega... There are no other ones except Him. Only jokers....very funny ones too wannabes....

Now I know for a fact that you lied! First of all, the God of Israel —YHWH— made clear that His Laws apply only to those who are of the bloodline of Jacob. Second, He never gave laws regarding teeth, bellybutton, anuses, or even drugs. You lied! 😏

GiftofGod77:
➜I think you did not get me well there, I meant it is not like those other ones who get theirs from demons.
➜I mean it is a genuine experience that lifts and edifies and clearly manifests the presence of God in a humble vessel such as me. They are not the same. Never will be.

From where I sit, you are no different from those people you disparage.

2. You speak the same language they speak— talking about some spiritual bullsheet— so how can I see you any different from them?

GiftofGod77:
➜Whoever will humble themselves, acknowledge that they have sinned against God and need His help. Then they acknowledge and accept His Son Jesus Christ as their Saviour then He God will adopt them to be His children. As long as they or "whoever" believes in God's Will and Plan in Christ they become the sons of God. This is something we should never take for granted and we must give God all the glory and thanks for this. If not there will be no hope.

But Jesus Christ of Israel and YHWH —God of Israel — instead said that it is instead WHOEVER AMONG those who are of the bloodline of Jacob. See the difference between your claim and what is actually written in the book which you actually deny?

So, who is lying here... you or Jesus Christ of Israel & YHWH?

Kobojunkie:
From where I sit, you are no different from those people you disparage.

2. You speak the same language they speak— talking about some spiritual bullsheet— so how can I see you any different from them?

He will reveal Himself to you...

Kobojunkie:
But Jesus Christ of Israel and YHWH —God of Israel — instead said that it is instead WHOEVER AMONG those who are of the bloodline of Jacob. See the difference between your claim and what is actually written in the book which you actually deny?

So, who is lying here... you or Jesus Christ of Israel & YHWH?

That is your own interpretation...not what the Scripture says...

GiftofGod77:
He will reveal Himself to you...

Who?

GiftofGod77:
That is your own interpretation...not what the Scripture says...

I didn't write the book so it couldn't be my interpretation as it is instead what is written in the book in John 3 vs 14 - 16 & Matthew 15 vs 20 - 28 & Matthew 7 vs 6 & .....

I am not a Christian so I don't do interpretations since I will never even think to apply the same reasoning to my other books which are equally written in human language much like the books of Israelite Scripture.

Kobojunkie:
1. Your deity explicitly stated that the private part of a woman is made for her husband. So, the woman has no bodily autonomy of any kind? Is her private part is exclusive property of her husband?

2. So, your deity also requires that women without intention to marry at all also have their private parts seized by men only, abi?

3. You just claimed the private part of a married woman belongs to her husband. That is an imposition. You also stated that the private part of any woman belongs only to her husband meaning that women who are not married do not clearly own their body because according to you, it has to be the property of men.

4. You folks like to tell tales. I didn't ask you about marriage but about respect. According to you, your sex deity wants women's vagina's to belong to their husbands. But what about people who don't believe in your god and his ideals? Do you mutually respect them or impose your own deity's ideas on them disrespectfully?

The man's body belongs to his wife. They are one and the Love of God binds and keeps them. It nourishes them and blesses them. I have seen it practically. I love all men irrespective of their spiritual predispositions but I live in line with the dictates of Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
Who?

The deity you were asking of...believe me He is good at that...

Kobojunkie:
I didn't write the book so it couldn't be my interpretation as it is instead what is written in the book in John 3 vs 14 - 16 & Matthew 15 vs 20 - 28 & Matthew 7 vs 6 & .....

I am not a Christian so I don't do interpretations since I will never even think to apply the same reasoning to my other books which are equally written in human language much like the books of Israelite Scripture.

What those Scriptures mean must be interpreted in the Spirit of God. When men read and attempt to interpret them literarily they get hurt. The Letter kills while the Spirit gives life...

Kobojunkie:
I didn't write the book so it couldn't be my interpretation as it is instead what is written in the book in John 3 vs 14 - 16 & Matthew 15 vs 20 - 28 & Matthew 7 vs 6 & .....

I am not a Christian so I don't do interpretations since I will never even think to apply the same reasoning to my other books which are equally written in human language much like the books of Israelite Scripture.

It's quite okay, I still love and respect you.

Kobojunkie:
I didn't write the book so it couldn't be my interpretation as it is instead what is written in the book in John 3 vs 14 - 16 & Matthew 15 vs 20 - 28 & Matthew 7 vs 6 & .....

I am not a Christian so I don't do interpretations since I will never even think to apply the same reasoning to my other books which are equally written in human language much like the books of Israelite Scripture.

and besides it's fun interacting with you. Blessings...

GiftofGod77:
➜The man's body belongs to his wife. They are one and the Love of God binds and keeps them. It nourishes them and blesses them. I have seen it practically.
➜I love all men irrespective of their spiritual predispositions but I live in line with the dictates of Jesus Christ.

That does not change the fact that your deity frowns against bodily autonomy. And what you claim is practical is no different from what atheists experience in their own marriages. They too enjoy marriage in similar ways. 🙄

2. Again, you assert that Jesus Christ of Israel lied. Yet you want me to believe it is the same liar that you believe in? You can't have it both ways! 🙄

Kobojunkie:
That does not change the fact that your deity frowns against bodily autonomy. And what you claim is practical is no different from what atheists experience in their own marriages. They too enjoy marriage in similar ways. 🙄

2. Again, you assert that Jesus Christ of Israel lied. Yet you want me to believe it is the same liar that you believe in? You can't have it both ways! 🙄

No please autonomy in the right way. He never lies, He is the Truth.

GiftofGod77:
➜What those Scriptures mean must be interpreted in the Spirit of God.
➜When men read and attempt to interpret them literarily they get hurt.
➜The Letter kills while the Spirit gives life...

Where did you get this idea that what is written in plaintext must be interpreted in this spirit of your deity that you refer to?

2. Again, where do you get this notion that the context must be interpreted?

3. What does this statement have to do with this context?

GiftofGod77:
➜ No please autonomy in the right way.
➜He never lies, He is the Truth.

So, bodily autonomy can be wrong is what you are saying?

2. He never lies and is the Truth yet your every statement asserts the opposite which is that He in fact lied and hence cannot be Truth?

GiftofGod77:
It's quite okay, I still love and respect you.

GiftofGod77:
and besides it's fun interacting with you. Blessings...

I am not interested in any of that as it is all meaningless religious gobbledegook to me.

GiftofGod77:
The deity you were asking of...believe me He is good at that...

You still have not identified this deity as you had formerly indicated one who never gave the set of rules which you claim you live by. Also, the one you identified made clear that He only interacts with those who are of the bloodline of Jacob. Since you aren't of the bloodline, I can't believe your claims since they contradict what He stated in His Scriptures.

Kobojunkie:
Where did you get this idea that what is written in plaintext must be interpreted in this spirit of your deity that you refer to?

2. Again, where do you get this notion that the context must be interpreted?

3. What does this statement have to do with this context?

Yes please, because the intent or content of words could be missed. It is trite and proper for the Writer to be the one to interpret the words that he or she or He wrote. Even in law there are different methods of interpreting laws to avoid ambiguity and wrong interpretation which can lead to damnation, confusion and wrong perceptions.

Kobojunkie:
I am not interested in any of that as it is all meaningless religious gobbledegook to me.

No problem at all cheers...

Kobojunkie:
You still have not identified this deity as you had formerly indicated one who never gave the set of rules which you claim you live by. Also, the one you identified made clear that He only interacts with those who are of the bloodline of Jacob. Since you aren't of the bloodline, I can't believe your claims since they contradict what He stated in His Scriptures.

No He made it clear which is why there are millions out there who live daily based on His decision and Wisdom to redeem us....