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Re: On The Origin of Evil by TheDevilsBride(f): 2:18pm On Feb 09, 2025
DeepSightZ:
[*Prays against ban]
No be small thing grin.

Currently at an event. Will respond once I get home.
Re: On The Origin of Evil by TheDevilsBride(f): 2:19pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Back and forth shey? cheesy

He is ALMIGHTY not OMNIPOTENT! wink
They're the same thing. Try again grin!

Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:22pm On Feb 09, 2025
TheDevilsBride:
Also, you've portrayed your God here as lacking infinite goodness. In that case, what then makes him a source of morality?
He has gathered His worshipers globally as His WITNESSES {Isaiah 43:10} we now have one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers from different nations throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:2-4

So all you need to do is present a better organization than the organization that has removed weapons in the hearts of all their members! smiley
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:24pm On Feb 09, 2025
TheDevilsBride:
They're the same thing. Try again grin!
Failed reference!

Almighty: power to do all things but can't do evil.
Omnipotent: can do both evil and good.
Re: On The Origin of Evil by DeepSightZ: 2:29pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Failed reference!

Almighty: power to do all things but can't do evil.
Omnipotent: can do both evil and good.
This is nonsensical and one can easily swap your definitions around.
By the way, the God of your Bible does confess to creating evil -

Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Re: On The Origin of Evil by TheDevilsBride(f): 2:30pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Failed reference!

Almighty: power to do all things but can't do evil.
Omnipotent: can do both evil and good.
Provide a reputable academic source to back up your claim. So far, the reality is stacked against you smiley.

Re: On The Origin of Evil by LordReed(m): 2:30pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Yet you've been quoting the Bible to prove that you have something tangible to say before! smiley
How does quoting your favourite book of Jewish mythology change anything?
Re: On The Origin of Evil by TheDevilsBride(f): 2:34pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
He has gathered His worshipers globally as His WITNESSES {Isaiah 43:10} we now have one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers from different nations throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:2-4

So all you need to do is present a better organization than the organization that has removed weapons in the hearts of all their members! smiley
Smh, he wants to jet, dodge and leap away from the point, as usual. You can't solve life's problems by running from them, my dear grin.

How can a God who plays infantile, selective hide-and-seek games, with his own creation that he loves so much, be the foundation of objective morality?

Can you answer the question please cheesy?
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:42pm On Feb 09, 2025
TheDevilsBride:
Provide a reputable academic source to back up your claim. So far, the reality is stacked against you smiley.
The Bible is enough for me.
The word used is ALMIGHTY not OMNIPOTENT! smiley
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:44pm On Feb 09, 2025
LordReed:
How does quoting your favourite book of Jewish mythology change anything?
You were quoting to support your demand saying what He did for misinformed religionists worshiping lesser Gods He should do the same for you when you guys don't believe in the existence of supernaturals! smiley
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:46pm On Feb 09, 2025
TheDevilsBride:
How can a God who plays infantile, selective hide-and-seek games, with his own creation that he loves so much, be the foundation of objective morality?
Morality comes to mind when you have neighbours and peace with neighbours is evidence of the highest form of moral! wink
Re: On The Origin of Evil by DeepSightZ: 3:01pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Morality comes to mind when you have neighbours and peace with neighbours is evidence of the highest form of moral! wink
Peace with neighbours?

Please dont even start.

You surely are not talking about the God of the Bible who instructed his chosen people to slaughter their neighbours - even insisting that they must kill every child and all cattle as well?

1 Samuel 15:3 - “Now go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Do not spare them. Kill men and women, infants and nursing babies, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.”
Re: On The Origin of Evil by LordReed(m): 3:31pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You were quoting to support your demand saying what He did for misinformed religionists worshiping lesser Gods He should do the same for you when you guys don't believe in the existence of supernaturals! smiley
Nope, I was quoting your favourite book of Jewish mythology to show you your excuses were rubbish and true to type you changed your tack each time you were confronted.
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:35pm On Feb 09, 2025
DeepSightZ:
Peace with neighbours?
Please dont even start.
You surely are not talking about the God of the Bible who instructed his chosen people to slaughter their neighbours - even insisting that they must kill every child and all cattle as well?
1 Samuel 15:3 - “Now go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Do not spare them. Kill men and women, infants and nursing babies, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.”
You only read without understanding and instead of asking:
WHY?
You just summed up everything in your shallow mind that you've gotten it all.

Those people are worshipers of demons who requires they should sacrifice their children by throwing them into the fire alive.
They mate with their animals and practices barbaric sexual activities.

That's why God told His worshipers to exterminate them since they will not leave the land for His worshipers! undecided
Re: On The Origin of Evil by DeepSightZ: 3:36pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You only read without understanding and instead of asking:
WHY?
You just summed up everything in your shallow mind that you've gotten it all.

Those people are worshipers of demons who requires they should sacrifice their children by throwing them into the fire alive.
They mate with their animals and practices barbaric sexual activities.

That's why God told His worshipers to exterminate them since they will not leave the land for His worshipers! undecided
And what did the infants and cattle do?
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:37pm On Feb 09, 2025
LordReed:
I was quoting your book
In which God never spoke nor act due to demands of atheists! smiley
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:40pm On Feb 09, 2025
DeepSightZ:
And what did the infants and cattle do?
No one will cater for their infants and it's unwise to keep them because when they grow up they will surely fight against their guardians after hearing the story.
They have mated with their cattles that's why the animals must be destroyed for them not to start bearing half human half animal! smiley
Re: On The Origin of Evil by DeepSightZ: 3:41pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
No one will cater for their infants and it's unwise to keep them because when they grow up they will surely fight against their guardians after hearing the story.
They have mated with their cattles that's why the animals must be destroyed for them not to start bearing half human half animal! smiley
Sweet Jesus. You are actually justifying the mass murder of infants. There is nothing you will not defend. I am sure if your Bible says that Alhaji Maiguno should rape your wife, mother and sister seven times a day, you will find a way to justify it.
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:44pm On Feb 09, 2025
DeepSightZ:
Sweet Jesus. You are actually justifying the mass murder of infants. There is nothing you will not defend. I am sure if your Bible says that Alhaji Maiguno should rape your wife, mother and sister seven times a day, you will find a way to justify it.
You must not do this to Jehovah your God, because they do for their gods every detestable thing that Jehovah hates, even burning their sons and their daughters in the fire to their gods. Deuteronomy 12:31

You people hate the truth.
Because i gave you sound reasons now you want to start emotionally blackmail can you quote where Israelites were ordered to rape anyone? smiley
Re: On The Origin of Evil by DeepSightZ: 3:48pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You people hate the truth.
Because i gave you sound reasons now you want to start emotionally blackmail can you quote where Israelites were ordered to rape anyone? smiley
What sound reasons? There are no reasons to mass murder infants. Infants dont know anything. If you kill their parents you can teach them the ways you believe are righteous and that is what they will grow up knowing.

You even went as far as to justify the killing of cattle.

You are simply iredeemable.

Morality my foot.

Your god is obviously nothing but a bloodthirsty pagan mountain mythical deity of the Jews.
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:56pm On Feb 09, 2025
DeepSightZ:
What sound reasons? There are no reasons to mass murder infants.
Guy if you don't know something ask for insight not just jumping to conclusions.

Haman who plotted that all Jews should be exterminated was the only baby who escaped that annihilation son of Agag the king of Amalek. 1Samuel 15:8; Esther 3:1
Re: On The Origin of Evil by DeepSightZ: 3:57pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Guy if you don't know something ask for insight not just jumping to conclusions.

Haman who plotted that all Jews should be exterminated was the only baby who escaped that annihilation son of Agag the king of Amalek. 1Samuel 15:8; Esther 3:1
Enjoy yourself. You are barbaric and enslaved. Thats all.
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:01pm On Feb 09, 2025
DeepSightZ:
Enjoy yourself. You are barbaric and enslaved. Thats all.
No wahala at least you have known the reason why God ordered Israelites to kill all the Amalekites. Go and explain to your fellow atheists that a Bible believer has helped you to unravel the secret! wink
Re: On The Origin of Evil by DeepSightZ: 4:09pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
No wahala at least you have known the reason why God ordered Israelites to kill all the Amalekites. Go and explain to your fellow atheists that a Bible believer has helped you to unravel the secret! wink
You gave no reason. You only showed yourself as completely bereft of morals, bloodthirsty, ritualistic and pagan.
Besides, that incident with the Amalekites is by no means the only case of Yahweh displaying his barbarism.

There are many.
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:21pm On Feb 09, 2025
DeepSightZ:
You gave no reason. You only showed yourself as completely bereft of morals, bloodthirsty, ritualistic and pagan.
Besides, that incident with the Amalekites is by no means the only case of Yahweh displaying his barbarism.
There are many.
If you don't understand something just ask no one will flog you for asking! Matthew 7:7-8 smiley
Re: On The Origin of Evil by DeepSightZ: 4:29pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If you don't understand something just ask no one will flog you for asking! Matthew 7:7-8 smiley
Go on deceiving yourself with excuses for madness.

- - -

Deuteronomy 22:28–29 God’s punishment for the raping of a virgin is to pay her father 50 shekels of silver and marry her for life. The rapist was seen as ruining someone else’s property, not ruining a young girl’s life. Forcing a girl to marry her rapist and have her father accept some money as compensation is disgusting.

2 Samuel 7:1 God, through Nathan, says he is going to punish David’s affair with Bathsheba by making all of David’s wives prostitutes. God making David’s wives prostitutes, despite what His own law said, is not moral.

Leviticus 26:29 God describes how he will punish people by making them eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters. Any God threatening to force people into cannibalism on their family is not moral.

Joshua 6:20–21 God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men, women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys”. C’mon. Ruthlessly murdering all the women and children in a city is not moral.

Deuteronomy 2:32–35 God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children. Later in chapter 3:3–7, God commands they do the same to the city of Bashan. Killing children ain’t moral, dude.

1 Numbers 31:7–18; God decides to not kill everyone this time. This time, He commands the Israelites to kill all the Midianites except the virgins, whom they will take as spoils of war. Killing everyone besides virgins and using them as sex slaves isn’t moral.

Judges 11:30–39 Jephthah burns his daughter alive as a sacrificial offering for God’s favor in killing the Ammonites. Jephthah is crazy for burning his daughter alive and God is crazy for allowing it. Child sacrifice is not moral.

Deuteronomy 21:18–2 God demands we kill disobedient teenagers. Stoning disobedient children to death is not moral.

Exodus 21:20–21, Colossians 3:22–24, Ephesians 6:5, 1 Peter 2:18; God legitimizes slavery by saying it’s okay to own slaves and to beat them. Slaves are told to obey their masters just as they would obey Jesus, even if their masters are harsh. God blatantly supports slavery. Supporting slavery is not moral.

- Culled - from Renly Bradell
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:31pm On Feb 09, 2025
DeepSightZ:
Go on deceiving yourself with excuses for madness.
When you are ready you will humbly ask your questions! wink
Re: On The Origin of Evil by DeepSightZ: 4:41pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
When you are ready you will humbly ask your questions! wink
The quotes are there. I presented them to you. If you dont realise those are questions, thats up to you. Obviously you are afraid.
Re: On The Origin of Evil by LordReed(m): 4:43pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
In which God never spoke nor act due to demands of atheists! smiley
Yes because it a fairytale. A god who can only appear to people who believe is a figment of their imagination.
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:45pm On Feb 09, 2025
DeepSightZ:
The quotes are there. I presented them to you. If you dont realise those are questions, thats up to you. Obviously you are afraid.
When you are ready my guy WHEN YOU ARE READY! wink
Re: On The Origin of Evil by DeepSightZ: 4:46pm On Feb 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
When you are ready my guy WHEN YOU ARE READY! wink
Shameful. Goodluck.
Re: On The Origin of Evil by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:47pm On Feb 09, 2025
LordReed:
Yes because it a fairytale. A god who can only appear to people who believe is a figment of their imagination.
So if you're truly convinced deep down in your heart that it's all imagination then you don't have to join those who are imagining nah.
Or are you still in doubt regarding your stand? smiley
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