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Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by blacknp(m): 4:46pm On Feb 15, 2025
SmartPolician:
Why won't people (including fellow lawyers) misinterprete the judgment? Instead of the judges using simple English to explain their judgement, they always use jargons to pass their verdict. I don't know who they are always trying to impress with those terminologies.
What is there to interpret again, isn’t it a democrazy that we are practicing here in Nigeria?

How can 4 people claim they are legitimate, against 27?
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by APCHaram: 4:47pm On Feb 15, 2025
Moventist:
That case was before their defection
You lie

Fubara's defense in that suit filed by the 27 law makers was that they had lost their seats and could not sue the executive over the budget presentation.

Stop lying .
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by Smartcitizen: 4:47pm On Feb 15, 2025
Hmmm!

Useless liar, who told you that the supreme Court doesn't decide the issue of house membership?

This type of case has been decided before and I don't know why this idiot is saying Rubbish here.

In fact most people in Nigeria are foolish.

Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by OpinionCounts(m): 4:48pm On Feb 15, 2025
richmond500:
the court won't use simple words, it will use words peculiar to it's field
If the words are peculiar to it's field, how come people in thesame field still conflict it's interpretation.

Like Helpfromabove1 said, they better use simple English words understandable by all to avoid all these controversies.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by zero8zero(op): 4:48pm On Feb 15, 2025
richmond500:
the lower court case cannot stand cos the budget has already been spent.
Wike lost
The court of Appeal withheld the judgement of the lower court. Spent or not, Fubara's action was illegal.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by blacknp(m): 4:50pm On Feb 15, 2025
Hushpuppy20:
Oga you are not a lawyer nau. How can you say what a confirm SAN said is misleading ? Blood don enter where he no suppose enter for your brain.so na your own we go hear abi..
U don’t need to be a Senior Advocate to have common sense to know that 4 is not greater than 27.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by blacknp(m): 4:50pm On Feb 15, 2025
zero8zero:
The court of Appeal upheld the judgement of the lower court. Spent or not, Fubara's action was illegal.
Upheld.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by APCHaram: 4:50pm On Feb 15, 2025
OpinionCounts:
If the words are peculiar to it's field, how come people in thesame field still conflict it's interpretation.

Abeg they should use simple English words understandable by all to avoid all these controversies.
Because the likes of Falana are grifters that thrive in a chaotic environment so they need to cause confusion to remain relevant.

By the way, the original High Court judgement was straight forward .
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by Coldspice: 4:53pm On Feb 15, 2025
SmartPolician:
Why won't people (including fellow lawyers) misinterprete the judgment? Instead of the judges using simple English to explain their judgement, they always use jargons to pass their verdict. I don't know who they are always trying to impress with those terminologies.
It is pretty straightforward. Get someone to interpret it for you.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by richmond500: 4:56pm On Feb 15, 2025
OpinionCounts:
If the words are peculiar to it's field, how come people in thesame field still conflict it's interpretation.

Like Helpfromabove1 said, they better use simple English words understandable by all to avoid all these controversies.
They are not confused, they are politically manipulative.

Fubara is ahead
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by Segxydube: 4:57pm On Feb 15, 2025
zero8zero:
Very funny set of lawyers. If the court ruled that spending 2024 budget without the approval of the 27members was illegal, is it the 2025 budget that was taken before the 4 members that will now be legal?. If they had lost their seats, will the court asked you to present the budget to them?.
Did the court tell u they have not lost their seat? Dey use ur brain abeg

Anytin fit happen on top 2024 budget wey dem don spend finish?
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by Smartcitizen: 4:57pm On Feb 15, 2025
blacknp:
U don’t need to be a Senior Advocate to have common sense to know that 4 is not greater than 27.
My friend stop saying Rubbish, this kind of case has been decided long ago in Ondo state years back.

You people should stop saying what you don't know for goodness sake.

Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by richmond500: 5:04pm On Feb 15, 2025
zero8zero:
The court of Appeal withheld the judgement of the lower court. Spent or not, Fubara's action was illegal.
Fubara action is not illegal.

First the lawmakers defected and at such they automatically lost their seats by the constitution, necessarily, this is a direct constitutional case and need not to go to court. The governor had to pass 2024 budget so he passed it to those who haven't defected yet but the appealate court told the governor to re-pass the budget to the defected lawmakers.
Note that the judge didn't reinstall them, Omotosho politically asked the governor to pass it to them, but the gov took the case to the supreme court and later dismissed the case cos the budget has already been spent and hence it became academic.
The governor did the right thing
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by blacknp(m): 5:05pm On Feb 15, 2025
Smartcitizen:
My friend stop saying Rubbish, this kind of case has been decided long ago in Ondo state years back.

You people should stop saying what you don't know for goodness sake.
Please stop exhibiting your lack of common sense.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by blacknp(m): 5:08pm On Feb 15, 2025
richmond500:
Fubara action is not illegal.

First the lawmakers defected and at such they automatically lost their seats by the constitution, necessarily, this is a direct constitutional case and need not to go to court. The governor had to pass 2024 budget so he passed it to those who haven't defected yet but the appealate court told the governor to re-pass the budget to the defected lawmakers.
Note that the judge didn't reinstall them, Omotosho politically asked the governor to pass it to them, but the gov took the case to the supreme court and later dismissed the case cos the budget has already been spent and hence it became academic.
The governor did the right thing
If u automatically lose your sit, how come Ned Nwoko is still parading himself as the Senator representing Delta North?

Only a Federal High Court can declare a sit vacant after hearing the reason for the defection, you cannot assume & take the law into your own hands like Mumu Fubara in his miscalculated desperation has done.

It is a democrazy we practice in Nigeria, if 27 say a, & 4 say b, the 27 that said a, irrespective that you disagree with their opinion, they are right in the eyes of the law.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by zero8zero(op): 5:11pm On Feb 15, 2025
richmond500:
Fubara action is not illegal.

First the lawmakers defected and at such they automatically lost their seats by the constitution, necessarily, this is a direct constitutional case and need not to go to court. The governor had to pass 2024 budget so he passed it to those who haven't defected yet but the appealate court told the governor to re-pass the budget to the defected lawmakers.
Note that the judge didn't reinstall them, Omotosho politically asked the governor to pass it to them, but the gov took the case to the supreme court and later dismissed the case cos the budget has already been spent and hence it became academic.
The governor did the right thing
Omotosho politically asked him to pass it , the Appeal Court also politically asked him to pass it , then Fubara politically withdrew the case and the SC politically dismissed the case. Clap for yourself. E be like your own law chamber na under the tree.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by zero8zero(op): 5:12pm On Feb 15, 2025
Smartcitizen:
My friend stop saying Rubbish, this kind of case has been decided long ago in Ondo state years back.

You people should stop saying what you don't know for goodness sake.
Has the SC sacked the 27 lawmakers yet?
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by Hushpuppy20(m): 5:13pm On Feb 15, 2025
Which means a carpenter can know more than a judge if he has a common sense abi, infact common sense is not common.
blacknp:
U don’t need to be a Senior Advocate to have common sense to know that 4 is not greater than 27.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by Smartcitizen: 5:13pm On Feb 15, 2025
blacknp:
Please stop exhibiting your lack of common sense.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Your useless sense without a fact?

You think emotions has anything to do with the law?

I'm telling you that those fools committed blunders by declaring not to be the members of the state assembly when they left their party and you are here deceiving yourself with your emotional statements.

Anyway, what's the difference between you and Olodo and them that committed the blinders?

Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by LEGALSER: 5:15pm On Feb 15, 2025
zero8zero:
Very funny set of lawyers. If the court ruled that spending 2024 budget without the approval of the 27members was illegal, is it the 2025 budget that was taken before the 4 members that will now be legal?. If they had lost their seats, will the court asked you to present the budget to them?.
When you type finish sit down and go through then think about it. I like the confusion and I like the fact that people like you have fun displaying your ignorance cheesy grin
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by blacknp(m): 5:16pm On Feb 15, 2025
Hushpuppy20:
Which means a carpenter can know more than a judge if he has a common sense abi, infact common sense is not common.
Even when u go to a court of law, there are some cases that annoy a judge, that could have been settled by common logic, why come & waste the time of the court?

I.e a person dies intestate by law his estate is vested in The Chief Judge of the state until the letters of administration is granted, why come and argue otherwise in front of a judge of competent jurisdiction?

Only oblivious minded mumus will argue that 4 is greater than 27 in a democracy.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by richmond500: 5:18pm On Feb 15, 2025
blacknp:
If u automatically lose your sit, how come Ned Nwoko is still parading himself as a Senator?

Only a Federal High Court can declare a sit vacant after hearing the reason for the defection, you cannot assume & take the law into your own hands.

It is a democrazy we practice in Nigeria, if 27 say a, & 4 say b, the 27 that said a, irrespective that you disagree with their opinion, they are right in the eyes of the law.
I don't know if u are ignorant or outright manipulative.
The state lawmakers and Ned Nwoko case is 100% different.
Just like election, this 27lawmakers fiasco is a constitutional case and is automatic except there are grievances that needs interpretation and then the court or tribunal will come in.

Also this is not "A and B" case, constitutional duties will not be stopped because of the lawmakers.
By defection, they have lost their seat until the court says otherwise, in this case, even the court cannot bring them back because that will be a mutiny against its own laws. That is why they wanted to Fubara to pass the budget so they can use it against him that he recognized them and use politics to hold the state ransom.
Fubara was wise
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by jojothaiv(m): 5:20pm On Feb 15, 2025
SmartPolician:
Why won't people (including fellow lawyers) misinterprete the judgment? Instead of the judges using simple English to explain their judgement, they always use jargons to pass their verdict. I don't know who they are always trying to impress with those terminologies.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by blacknp(m): 5:21pm On Feb 15, 2025
richmond500:
I don't know if u are ignorant or outright manipulative.
The state lawmakers and Ned Nwoko case is 100% different.
Just like election, this 27lawmakers fiasco is a constitutional case and is automatic except there are grievances that needs interpretation and then the court or tribunal will come in.

Also this is not "A and B" case, constitutional duties will not be stopped because of the lawmakers.
By defection, they have lost their seat until the court says otherwise, in this case, even the court cannot bring them back because that will be a mutiny against its own laws. That is why they wanted to Fubara to pass the budget so they can use it against him that he recognized them and use politics to hold the state ransom.
Fubara was wise
You claimed the law makers defected so they lost their sits automatically by the operation of law, Ned Nwoko also defected why did he not automatically lose his seat in the Senate?
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by richmond500: 5:21pm On Feb 15, 2025
zero8zero:
Omotosho politically asked him to pass it , the Appeal Court also politically asked him to pass it , then Fubara politically withdrew the case and the SC politically dismissed the case. Clap for yourself. E be like your own law chamber na under the tree.
It was a political exercise because the court cannot reinstate them, nothing can bring them back.
It's only the governor that could recognize them.
In this case, whoever the governor recognize is the authentic members as long as they were elected
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by richmond500: 5:23pm On Feb 15, 2025
blacknp:
You claimed the law makers defected so they lost their sits automatically by the operation of law, Ned Nwoko also defected why did he not automatically lose his seat in the Senate?
Ned Nwoko is not the same case as the state lawmakers please.
I am not a lawyer but this topic was stressed and it was explained.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by blacknp(m): 5:25pm On Feb 15, 2025
richmond500:
It was a political exercise because the court cannot reinstate them, nothing can bring them back.
It's only the governor that could recognize them.
In this case, whoever the governor recognize is the authentic members as long as they were elected
There is nothing to reinstate, when did the same court declare their sits vacant, before you in your ignorance is talking of reinstatement?
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by richmond500: 5:25pm On Feb 15, 2025
blacknp:
Even when u go to a court of law, there are some cases that annoy a judge, that could have been settled by common logic, why come & waste the time of the court?

I.e a person dies intestate by law his estate is vested in The Chief Judge of the state until the letters of administration is granted, why come and argue otherwise in front of a judge of competent jurisdiction?

Only oblivious minded mumus will argue that 4 is greater than 27 in a democracy.
Law is not mathematics, why do u keep bringing up this rubbish?
Tueh
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by 1972xy: 5:25pm On Feb 15, 2025
There is hunger in the land !
Hunger has no respect for anybody.
Everybody is looking for ways to quench his hunger.
Even Lawyers too. Only the illiterates will fall into their hands.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by blacknp(m): 5:28pm On Feb 15, 2025
richmond500:
Ned Nwoko is not the same case as the state lawmakers please.
I am not a lawyer but this topic was stressed and it was explained.
The lawmakers claimed they defected because of crisis in the Pdp, same as Ned Nwoko claimed problems in the Pdp is his reason for cross carpeting.

So why in your imagination will the lawmakers by the operation of your own law lose their sit, but Ned Nwoko by the operation of your own law in your own mind shouldn’t lose his?

They are both legislators, one state, the other federal.
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by richmond500: 5:28pm On Feb 15, 2025
blacknp:
There is nothing to reinstate, when did the same court declare their sits vacant, before you in your ignorance is talking of reinstatement?
the court won't declare their seat vacant because this is a constitutional case.
When u win an election, is it the court that will declare u president?
Re: Rivers Crisis: Falana’s Interpretation Of SC Judgement Misleading- Hon Solomon by richmond500: 5:31pm On Feb 15, 2025
blacknp:
The lawmakers claimed they defected because of crisis in the Pdp, same as Ned Nwoko claimed problems in the Pdp is his reason for cross carpeting.

So why in your imagination will the lawmakers by the operation of your own law lose their sit, but Ned Nwoko by the operation of your own law in your own mind shouldn’t lose his?

They are both legislators, one state, the other federal.
first, when the lawmakers defected, there was no crisis in the party.
Can you recall the crisis rocking the party when they defected? I bet you cant
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