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Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by doffman: 3:33pm On Feb 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Now you are playing your stupidity for that is the meaning of

He walked where I walked
He stood where I stand
He felt what I feel
He understands

He knows my frailty
Shared my humanity
Tempted in every way

Yet without sin

God with us!
So close to us
God with us
Emmanuel

And besides you are foolish to not see that this was also a very Big Trap to permanently and foreverly seal the destruction of people like you. NOW NOTHING AND NO ONE SHALL EVER EVER SAVE YOU FROM EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT
🤣🤣🤣

Dey play .

Since you did not answer my question , how can I help you now ?

One day you will finally realize jesus did not die for you . You will carry your own sin yourself .
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Dtruthspeaker: 3:41pm On Feb 16, 2025
doffman:
🤣🤣

You did not answer question . I know , you can never answer it . Maybe bring another person to help you .

Must God collect blood before he can give salvation .

Why not God kill the Satan directly without asking for blood for salvation !

Dey play oo
I answered the questions by showing you that He went to the first men to save them but like you they did, as they willed.

And in that first salvation He did not demand blood. But, with you devils shedding blood, you stupidly forgot that the Law and Just Is, that blood must also be taken from you. So eye for eye, blood for blood.

Then thirdly, allowing devils like you to be born means that you and Satan get bring out all your Satanness and then God gets to punish you all and wipe you all out entirely and permanently in one swoop!
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by SonofElElyonRet: 3:43pm On Feb 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Ok

But, they are wrong on Theophany.

Those apparitions to Abraham, Sarah and the Sodom and Gomorrah event are actually Jesus Christ!

People are not paying attention that it is Written that Jesus, is The LORD/Lord.

There are no 2 "The Lord"

We have only ONE LORD!


1 Corinthians 8:6
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
The Father did appear. Very notable time was when Moses said " show me your glory" . That was certainly the Father.
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Dtruthspeaker: 3:49pm On Feb 16, 2025
doffman:
🤣🤣🤣

Dey play .

Since you did not answer my question , how can I help you now ?

One day you will finally realize jesus did not die for you . You will carry your own sin yourself .
See Madness and Lies. Typical of Muslims. (And see how you Muslims prove that Satan is your father)

Obviously this is the answer and Lie you give when you real eyes that you do not have any reasonable thing to say.

Today, you real eyes that you have been permanently marked for destruction the way Lagos firsts marks buildings before they come back and destroy them.
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Dtruthspeaker: 3:55pm On Feb 16, 2025
SonofElElyonRet:
The Father did appear. Very notable time was when Moses said " show me your glory" . That was certainly the Father.
Nope.
That was Jesus Again.

The Father's Appearance is only in Genesis, in the places where you see "And God..."

After that you see The LORD takes over.
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Ruke1989: 4:20pm On Feb 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
You do not need anything to obey not to lie or steal or drink to stupidity.
I agree
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by 198800Mam(m): 4:30pm On Feb 16, 2025
SultanOfAbia:
Catholic is the best church in christianty. The first church by the disciple Peter. The rock!!

The first church that Jesus ordained physically and spiritually

Proud Catholic❤❤
Congratulations 👏🎉 to you
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by doffman: 5:00pm On Feb 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
See Madness and Lies. Typical of Muslims. (And see how you Muslims prove that Satan is your father)

Obviously this is the answer and Lie you give when you real eyes that you do not have any reasonable thing to say.

Today, you real eyes that you have been permanently marked for destruction the way Lagos firsts marks buildings before they come back and destroy them.
Why are you crying nah 🤣

You will cry tire because you did not answer my question. I will ask you again okay .
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by doffman: 5:03pm On Feb 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
I answered the questions by showing you that He went to the first men to save them but like you they did, as they willed.

And in that first salvation He did not demand blood. But, with you devils shedding blood, you stupidly forgot that the Law and Just Is, that blood must also be taken from you. So eye for eye, blood for blood.

Then thirdly, allowing devils like you to be born means that you and Satan get bring out all your Satanness and then God gets to punish you all and wipe you all out entirely and permanently in one swoop!
Don’t miss them together 🤣

Let me ask you again clearly .

You claimed Jesus is the only way to heaven right ?

And I asked you , those that came before Jesus , will they enter hellfire since they did not see Jesus that will shed their blood for their salvation 😂?

Simple question that beg for simple answer ?
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by SonofElElyonRet: 5:31pm On Feb 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Nope.
That was Jesus Again.

The Father's Appearance is only in Genesis, in the places where you see "And God..."

After that you see The LORD takes over.
I don't know who told you this. Elohim Yahweh Jah, Jehovah, I am that I am are all references to God. The Old Testament was basically the Father's dealings with Israel... God is Elohim in Hebrew. THE LORD is Yahweh. Just Lord is Adonai. Etc. In Daniel, Jesus was referred to as the Prince of princes. Also scholars believe anywhere you see an "Angel" speaking as God without first saying "thus says the Lord" it's Jesus. Or where you see "The Angel of the Lord" it's Christ. Or where an Angel tells a person to take off his shoes because where he's standing is holy ground, it's Jesus
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by gohf: 5:59pm On Feb 16, 2025
phemmyfour:
He removed faith completely. He said righteousness is easy
ah you misunderstood him na
This is what he wrote
"it is obedience that is not easy without faith. Once you obey, righteousness follows"

Abu am I not reading it well.

So from faith we obey and once we obey then righteousness, abi?
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Dtruthspeaker: 7:44am On Feb 17, 2025
SonofElElyonRet:
I don't know who told you this. Elohim Yahweh Jah, Jehovah, I am that I am are all references to God. The Old Testament was basically the Father's dealings with Israel... God is Elohim in Hebrew. THE LORD is Yahweh. Just Lord is Adonai. Etc. In Daniel, Jesus was referred to as the Prince of princes. Also scholars believe anywhere you see an "Angel" speaking as God without first saying "thus says the Lord" it's Jesus. Or where you see "The Angel of the Lord" it's Christ. Or where an Angel tells a person to take off his shoes because where he's standing is holy ground, it's Jesus
Now you are appealing to the authority of scholars and now
they are Wrong.

For now you are saying there are 2 Lords meanwhile the bible Says we have ONLY ONE LORD1 Corinthians 8:6, Ephesians 4:5 and both declaring Jesus is The LORD!

Then 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us that we have ONLY ONE MEDIATOR between God and men.

So, where are you getting 2Lords from?
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Dtruthspeaker:
doffman:
Don’t miss them together 🤣

Let me ask you again clearly .

You claimed Jesus is the only way to heaven right ?

And I asked you , those that came before Jesus , will they enter hellfire since they did not see Jesus that will shed their blood for their salvation 😂?

Simple question that beg for simple answer ?
Mr Lie Muhammad worshipper, you did not ask me that. This is what you asked

"Since no one get to God without Jesus , those that came Before Jesus was born, how will they saved , or they will enter hellfire right ?

See, no mention of blood as Seth, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Job all saved, yet no blood,
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by SonofElElyonRet: 8:40am On Feb 17, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Now you are appealing to the authority of scholars and now
they are Wrong.

For now you are saying there are 2 Lords meanwhile the bible Says we have ONLY ONE LORD1 Corinthians 8:6, Ephesians 4:5 and both declaring Jesus is The LORD!

Then 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us that we have ONLY ONE MEDIATOR between God and men.

So, where are you getting 2Lords from?
You can't just interpret by yourself. THE LORD is translated from the Hebrew name of the Father YAHWEH.. bible translators wanted to use a name that would relate with all peoples that's why they chose THE LORD. In other places God's name is mentioned but for YAHWEH, it's translated THE LORD.
Lord is Adonai. Remember Jesus quoted Psalms and applied it to The Father and Himself.. THE LORD (Yahweh/The Father) said to my Lord (Adonai/Jesus), sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool.
Please do some research. You can't interpret the bible based on your own views.
I rest my case. Shalom
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Dtruthspeaker:
SonofElElyonRet:
You can't just interpret by yourself. THE LORD is translated from the Hebrew name of the Father YAHWEH.. bible translators wanted to use a name that would relate with all peoples that's why they chose THE LORD. In other places God's name is mentioned but for YAHWEH, it's translated THE LORD.
Lord is Adonai. Remember Jesus quoted Psalms and applied it to The Father and Himself.. THE LORD (Yahweh/The Father) said to my Lord (Adonai/Jesus), sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool.
Please do some research. You can't interpret the bible based on your own views.
I rest my case. Shalom
Respectfully, I see all these were attempts at simplifying the difficulty of understanding the wonderful Relationship and System Between God and His Son and their Co Rule which can not be easily explained to people.

But, people keep forgetting that God made us to be like Him. So all of the lawful things we do are a reflection of God.

Thus, even without Hebrew translations and retranslations, we ought to see that Fathers and sons, King and Prince, rule together. And the Father may do some things Himself while the Son does the rest.

And just as you cannot go to see Tinubu directly, same thing with God.

And look at David's statement, it is clear he was referring to the Father and the Son,

And Who is David's Lord?

Clearly, The Son, Who is now later known as Jesus Christ, The LORD!

And you people are not paying attention to the word "our' and "thy' where the bible is always telling us"The LORD "our God" or the Lord "thy God".

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God

Is is one Lord:

Exodus 20:2
I am the Lord ...

thy God

Even without Hebrew translations and retranslations, this is very clear!
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by charlsecy(m): 12:53pm On Feb 17, 2025
gohf:
Rom.4.20 Yet he did not waver through unbelief regarding the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God,...
How did we have Ishmael?
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Kobojunkie: 12:59pm On Feb 17, 2025
idanone:
That is true
He is lying!
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Kobojunkie: 1:00pm On Feb 17, 2025
phemmyfour:
There were no Catholic in that era.

We had galatians, corinthians, Ephesians , samaria churches. And no church was bigger than the other
There was also no religion known as Christianity or the Protestant movement you are a part of. undecided
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by doffman: 2:51pm On Feb 17, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Mr Lie Muhammad worshipper, you did not ask me that. This is what you asked

"Since no one get to God without Jesus , those that came Before Jesus was born, how will they saved , or they will enter hellfire right ?

See, no mention of blood as Seth, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Job all saved, yet no blood,
Good ,🤣🤣

Now I am asking you again :

Since no one get to God without Jesus , those that came Before Jesus was born, how will they saved , or they will enter hellfire right ?
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Truthseeker10: 3:46pm On Feb 17, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Yes. The spirit of man is called soul.
Does Genesis 2:7 say that soul was put into man when he was created?


Do you see the dead policemen working and devising how to forc someone's wife and daughter?



Don't know, don't care. Right now KJV said "grave" and that is sounds very right, clear and understandable.
Do you agree that the word translated grave in the king James version is "sheol"?
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Dtruthspeaker: 6:17pm On Feb 17, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Does Genesis 2:7 say that soul was put into man when he was created?
Have you never heard of synonyms before? Is it spiritiology that is studied or psychology or only physiology?

Truthseeker10:
Do you agree that the word translated grave in the king James version is "sheol"?
I don't care.
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Dtruthspeaker: 6:22pm On Feb 17, 2025
doffman:
Good ,🤣🤣

Now I am asking you again :

Since no one get to God without Jesus , those that came Before Jesus was born, how will they saved , or they will enter hellfire right ?
And 3 times have I answered telling that people like Seth, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Job etc all saved even before Jesus came to earth in Mathew.
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Truthseeker10: 6:32pm On Feb 17, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Have you never heard of synonyms before? Is it spiritiology that is studied or psychology or only physiology?
Below is Genesis 2:7 in your beloved king James version.


King James Bible
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Kindly point out where the synonym of soul was put in man.


I don't care.
Ok if you say that Hades is a place of punishment, why is 'sheol' in Psalms 16:10 rendered as 'hades' in Acts 2:27?
Does sheol and Hades mean the same thing?
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Dtruthspeaker: 7:02pm On Feb 17, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Below is Genesis 2:7 in your beloved king James version.

King James Bible
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Kindly point out where the synonym of soul was put in man.
Clearly your madness has begun for I clearly said the spirit of man is called soul.

Now you are looking for synonym of soul ?

You are that Mad enough that you do not know what synonym means?

Clearly, you suffer short lived sanity syndrome

Truthseeker10:
Ok if you say that Hades is a place of punishment, why is 'sheol' in Psalms 16:10 rendered as 'hades' in Acts 2:27?
Does sheol and Hades mean the same thing?
See how Mad you are? Acts 2:27 cited Psalm 16:10 yet your mad mind changed the words. And you think you are sane.

Please go back and take your in sanity medicines, when you are sane, maybe we can talk and hopefully finish the discussion before your next episode of Madness commences
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by phemmyfour: 7:07pm On Feb 17, 2025
Kobojunkie:
There was also no religion known as Christianity or the Protestant movement you are a part of. undecided
Ignorance, Christianity isn't a religion. It a definition of combination of two words "Christ Followers"
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Kobojunkie: 7:33pm On Feb 17, 2025
phemmyfour:
Ignorance, Christianity isn't a religion. It a definition of combination of two words "Christ Followers"
It isn't a religion yet it is operated 100% like any religion out there notably Islam? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by phemmyfour: 7:34pm On Feb 17, 2025
Kobojunkie:
It isn't a religion yet it is operated 100% like any religion out there notably Islam? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Everyone is free to operate based on his/herknowledge
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Kobojunkie: 7:37pm On Feb 17, 2025
phemmyfour:
✓ Everyone is free to operate based on his/herknowledge
Not everything out there can operate like a religion Christianityoperates like any other religion hence it is nothing but a religion. 🤔
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by phemmyfour: 7:41pm On Feb 17, 2025
Kobojunkie:
Not everything out there can operate like a religion Christianityoperates like any other religion hence it is nothing but a religion. 🤔
That people do it in a particular manner, does not make it right. Majority can be wrong at times
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by Kobojunkie: 7:54pm On Feb 17, 2025
phemmyfour:
That people do it in a particular manner, does not make it right. Majority can be wrong at times
Again,
Not everything out there can operate like a religion Christianity operates like any other religion hence it is nothing but a religion. 🤔
Re: Faith Equals Righteousness With God by doffman: 9:13pm On Feb 17, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
And 3 times have I answered telling that people like Seth, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Job etc all saved even before Jesus came to earth in Mathew.
Good , 🤣🤣

Since Seth, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Job etc all saved even before Jesus came to earth , that mean Jesus is not the only way to heaven . As you can see , no any blood 🩸 privilege to save them . As the Jesus came after certain prophet , there is also a prophet after Jesus and he did not tell us any salvation . No single messenger or God preach blood .

Jesus or any other prophets did not preached blood sacrifice before salvation . Jesus alone cannot preached that as he was already told you he did not come to abolish old laws but to fulfill them .


The Quran has also exposed your lied and told us the real truth of the Jesus as he is a prophet sent to Israel and he did not preach blood salvation . We know the true words of Jesus in the bible and we know the added and corrupted one .

It is not a must to accept the truth , but one day the truth will be cleared to everyone when we are six feet down . You will think na play .

Quran 5:116:


And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.

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