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sonmvayina:
It was only God that existed in the beginning before creation. After creating heaven and earth...and everything in it. He now moulded the statue of a man from the dust of the earth and then sent his spirit inside the statue and it came to life..(became conscious).
What did I miss?

Truthseeker10:
So since you admit than man was mounded from the dust, why are you saying that man is God's spirit that was sent into the statue?

sonmvayina:
Man is both....without one, man can not exist.

Do you understand?

Truthseeker10:
So before the spirit entered the statue, the spirit was man with God? You be funny man oo.

sonmvayina:
You are a dullard....

When did I say that?

Truthseeker10:
Did you say that man is God's spirit? Yes or no?

sonmvayina:
Man is God's spirit+ dust of the earth. The two of them must go together....if the spirit returns to God and the body is buried ...it turns to dust. There is no man.

Do you even know how to read?

Truthseeker10:
So when a man dies, man does not exist anymore?

sonmvayina:
Is this supposed to be a question or you just learning how to read.

Yes...man ceases to exist when he experiences death.

Truthseeker10:
Before God's spirit was put in the statue, was the statue called a man?

sonmvayina:
You know the answer to that question. So answer it your self.

Truthseeker10:
Genesis 2:7 says that the molded dust was called a man before the breath of life was put in him. So do you say that man is Dust + God's spirit when Genesis 2:7 says that man is dust?

sonmvayina:
Are those men standing on that platform?

Truthseeker10:
What are you asking?

sonmvayina:
The things standing on that platform, are they men ? Yes or No

Truthseeker10:
What does Genesis 2:7 say?

sonmvayina:
I need a yes or No answer...

Truthseeker10:
If you cannot get the answer from Genesis 2:7. Then rest.

Truthseeker10:
If you cannot get the answer from Genesis 2:7. Then rest.

sonmvayina:
It was only God that existed in the beginning before creation. After creating heaven and earth...and everything in it. He now moulded the statue of a man from the dust of the earth and then sent his spirit inside the statue and it came to life..(became conscious).
What did I miss?

GothamCities:
I pity you dear.

Jesus directly said that He is coming soon and that He's the Almighty. You ignore that?

And no, Jesus was the one who give John the messages of Revelation direction. He even appeared among burning candlesticks, and John described His appearance.

Revelation 1:1,
"The revelation of Jesus Christ which the God gave him..."
Jesus received the message from God his Father,then Jesus gave it to John.

Oga stop deceiving yourself, you have seen the screenshots evidence.

GothamCities:

I pity you o. God gave Himself to us but you're saying God gave us angels when the scriptures never said so. If Jesus was an angel, it will be very clear from scriptures. Jesus is the express image of the Father according to Hebrews 1:3. Go and think about that

So, an angel is your begging and the ending. And angel is the one who is, who was and who is to come, the Almighty?

Or you're saying God is the One who is, who was and who is to come? Tell us how this fits into the description of God

Oga,pity your delusion.

Angel meaning
"Messenger/son of God" in your Bible.

Is John 3:16 in your Bible?
Are you the express image of your Father?


Abeg you stop deceiving yourself.
You no know anything!

Janosky:

Oga,pity your delusion.

Angel meaning
"Messenger/son of God" in your Bible.

Is John 3:16 in your Bible?


Abeg you stop deceiving yourself.
You no know anything!

GothamCities:
Bring your dictionary that says Angel means messenger/son of God

If angels means messenger/son of God, does that mean God cannot have other messages or son apart from angels?.

GothamCities:
Jesus Christ declared Himself the One to come and the Almighty. Keep deluding yourself. He is the brightness of God's glory and the express image of this person. It seems there's a veil cast on your eyes. Only the Holy Ghost can remove it.

Oga,your Trinitarian mentors say Jesus is second of their triune deities & you moved him to Almighty.
Jesus told you Revelation chapter 1 was given to Jesus, yet you no believe your Bible..



Ghost nah demon. Ghost is NOT holy.

Ghost is not in any Greek manuscript.

Gabrielshow24:
If I may ask,
How did your God, make/create the heaven and earth?

GothamCities:
So, according to you, God the Father is the One coming? He is the One coming with clouds? Is this the nonsense in your brain you're asking me to allow sink into mine? God the Father is the coming who is coming? Even when the book of Revelation ends with the words "...even so come, Lord Jesus."

So, God the Father was the One who WAS? Tell me exactly at what time God the Father ceased to exist for Him to have become the One who WAS. I pity your soul.

I pity you most because in spite of your nasty errors, you still have a very bad mouth. You obviously don't know God

GothamCities:
"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John",

Can you see the fault in your analogy? God gave Jesus the Revelation, Jesus sent an angel to deliver it to John.

Take a closer look dear. Take away your JW biases and look at this scripture with pure eyes:
Here is the passage:

Revelation 1:7-8
7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen.

Then, the One who is coming spoke:

“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

God the Father is. God the Father never was. It was Jesus who WAS when He died on Calvary. He even said "a little while you shall see me no more."

Jesus is the One coming with clouds. He was the One who ascended with the clouds and will return in like manner according to Acts 1.

If you put your brain to function, you would understand that Jesus spoke the message (revelation) that God his Father gave Jesus.

Jesus is a servant/angel delivering God's message (@Psalm103:20 & Revelation 1:1- to other servants.

Oga, open your eyes & see the hierarchy in Revelation 1:1-8 & Psalms 103:20.
God the Father OWNS the message, Jesus is his servant, working with other servants.
John 9:4 read it until you understand.

sonmvayina:
He defeated Tiamat and used her body to create the universe...
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Tiamat

Janosky:
Oga, is John 3:16 & John 5:37,43 & Psalms 103:20 in your Bible?
This is the reason I said you don't know your Bible but pride won't let you calm down and learn something worthwhile.
Psalms 103:20, did you learn that Yahweh sends angels to perform Yahweh's command?
Yes?
John 5:37,43, did Yahweh come to the earth?
No.
Did Jesus come in the name of Yahweh?
Revelation 1:7-8, Yahweh's son obeys his Father Yahweh by coming in the name of Yahweh.
Oga, learn something.



If you put your brain to function, you would understand that Jesus spoke the message (revelation) that God his Father gave Jesus.

Jesus is a servant/angel delivering God's message (@Psalm103:20 & Revelation 1:1- to other servants.

Oga, open your eyes & see the hierarchy in Revelation 1:1-8 & Psalms 103:20.
God the Father OWNS the message, Jesus is his servant, working with other servants.
John 9:4 read it until you understand.

Janosky:
Oga, I must not spoon-feed you, pls go and study your Bible.

Oga,your Trinitarian mentors say Jesus is second of their triune deities & you moved him to Almighty.
Jesus told you Revelation chapter 1 was given to Jesus, yet you no believe your Bible..

Ghost nah demon. Ghost is NOT holy.

Ghost is not in any Greek manuscript.[/b]

Gabrielshow24:
So he needed preexisting matter🤔?

sonmvayina:
Did you read the article on the site?

Gabrielshow24:
I didn't bother to.
Inferred that from your sentiments.

GothamCities:
It's not a matter of spoon-feeding. It's a matter of puncturing your lies or your deliberate lack of knowledge. The world Angel means messenger but it does not mean messenger/son. Angels are called sons of God.jesus is not just a Son of God but the only Begotten Son of God. Check your Bible. Not your fake JW Bible. Wherever Jesus is mentioned as Son of man or Son of God, it's always in capital S. Jesus is the only Begotten Son of God. Not just a son.

Now, tell us where Jesus ever called Himself an Angel or a messenger. .

GothamCities:
You don't get it. He is everything. He is God. He is also Jesus. He's also the Almighty. God is able to make Himself anything to fulfil whatever purpose He has ini mind. Only God can save man from his sins. No angel can do it. Hence, God had to do it by Himself.

Let me also ask you this:

Who is the Resurrection and the Life? The very source of Life and the giver thereof. An angel? No! That can only be God. But this is what Jesus claimed to be.

Who is the Bread of Life? An angel? No! God forbid! The Bread of Life can only be God.

GothamCities:
Who is the Creator? God of course. Both the Adamic creation and the New Creation were created by Him. We are a new creation in Christ Jesus. Bought by His precious blood. We are the generation of Christ. The spiritual gen is in our spiritual bodies. We do not have the gens of angels otherwise we cannot be the children of God.
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GothamCities:
If you have problems with the Holy Ghost, do you have with the Holy Spirit too? Both terms are used interchangeably for the same Person. The word 'pneumatos' is translated Spirit and Ghost. See Mathew 1:18 in Greek attached below, where we were told that Mary was found with child of the Holy Spirit.