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Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by justmondris: 8:57am On Feb 19, 2025
Hezzyluv:
After this war, I'm not sure Putin would invade any country again. He's tired of it already.
Tired of what exactly? You don't know anything about the war. After this war no Western country including NATO will ever dare Russia again. Russia when they defeat and claim Ukraine territories like wster
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by gassbee: 8:57am On Feb 19, 2025
See how trump allow putin to brainwash n dictate terms to him.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Arrowhead71: 8:59am On Feb 19, 2025
franchasng:
Trump you are very wrong with this one angry


Though I know you are trying to massage the ego of that Russian dictator to get him to end the senseless war he started.


But don't be too sure that it would end the war because Europe is rallying behind Ukraine now and may reject any unfavorable peace deal to Ukraine, which will escalate the war and may even get things messy cos most European leaders are angry with you Trump and Putin and may damn the consequences and back Ukraine fully which would turn the tides against Russia and Putin.


Let's watch and see
all Europe should have done that since, but they allow Putin to bully them with Nuclear threat, Putin invited North Korea soldiers to fight Ukraine, but Europe refuse to commit military forces to defend Ukraine, waiting for America to send forces, no way ,
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by cr7lomo: 8:59am On Feb 19, 2025
franchasng:
Trump you are very wrong with this one angry


Though I know you are trying to massage the ego of that Russian dictator to get him to end the senseless war he started.


But don't be too sure that it would end the war because Europe is rallying behind Ukraine now and may reject any unfavorable peace deal to Ukraine, which will escalate the war and may even get things messy cos most European leaders are angry with you Trump and Putin and may damn the consequences and back Ukraine fully which would turn the tides against Russia and Putin.


Let's watch and see
And those European leaders don't want to use their own countries as the battle ground...they decided to use a naive fool to do their bidding on his land ...lol
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by justmondris: 9:00am On Feb 19, 2025
adioolayi:
You are making decisions on behalf of a "Sovereign State" .. without their presencehuh

So, what's Sovereigntyhuh

Ukraine should fight to death!!!
It's a good strategy to let Ukraine know that they are only an item in the menu.


Besides, was any African country even invited when they were creating the African map or when they decided on the name to give most African countries?
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by mysticwarrior(m): 9:01am On Feb 19, 2025
adioolayi:
You are making decisions on behalf of a "Sovereign State" .. without their presencehuh

So, what's Sovereigntyhuh

Ukraine should fight to death!!!
Ukrain is a puppet state to the US and zelensky is just a figure head. It's only a fool that would trust the US as an allied. Without the US supplying Ukraine weapons Ukraine would be powerfuless and Trump could also stop other countries from supplying Ukraine weapons by threatening them with high tariffs and sanctions. He is right when he said
I think I have the power to end this war, and I think it’s going very well,”
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by MERCHANDISER: 9:01am On Feb 19, 2025
Lovenorth:
Zeleskyy is very useless
He is super rich thanks to the war...
His wife and children are all enjoying life in the USA grin
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by justmondris: 9:02am On Feb 19, 2025
sweetkev:
The thing is that Trump never forgets people who stood by him or helped him to win election. Putin interfered in his first election against Hillary Clinton and won the election. So he will stand with Russia no matter what.
Putin also helped him greatly in the second election. Republicans really need Putin help to win elections.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by mysticwarrior(m): 9:02am On Feb 19, 2025
Arrowhead71:
all Europe should have done that since, but they allow Putin to bully them with Nuclear threat, Putin invited North Korea soldiers to fight Ukraine, but Europe refuse to commit military forces to defend Ukraine, waiting for America to send forces, no way ,
They are cowards.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Ankakh: 9:03am On Feb 19, 2025
Even though peace is the goal, the path to that goal is always important, especially when 2 countries are involved, so that no one is cheated out of rightfully belongs to them.

Now Ukraine is the aggressor? What will Musa not see in this Trump second series?
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by justmondris: 9:03am On Feb 19, 2025
datola:
At the end..., the war is not in favour of both Russia and Ukraine.
They play. You know the territories when Russia done claim?
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Mrfeel: 9:04am On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Trump then is the compound fool who surrendered to Putin's will
Trump is a smart person, he himself wants to put America first just like Putin puts Russia first, trump might start some invasion of his own and nobody will be able to stop him
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by simpleseyi: 9:04am On Feb 19, 2025
adioolayi:
You are making decisions on behalf of a "Sovereign State" .. without their presencehuh

So, what's Sovereigntyhuh

Ukraine should fight to death!!!
This sounds like a population control strategy. Ukraine will soon have no young men to work in their country
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Arrowhead71: 9:05am On Feb 19, 2025
epainos:
My own take from this new development is that in this life, make sure you are succesful, powerful, and rich. No one will give you any crap.

Gaza War: Israel pays heavily for weapons from the US. Business is business. Not saying they don't have support, but they still pay. While Palestine is all about aids here and there. Trump came on board and supported the stronger nation that he will benefit more from economically and financially. Period.

Russian - Ukraine War: Trump is not ready to drop one single cent for Ukraine anymore. And he thought about it that the best way is to invite the stronger nation to the table. If Ukraine had its money to fight this war, who will tell it to go to places? Nope. Ukraine is already paralysed without US fund, and it has no where to go. OK. Let Zelensky go to the rest of NATO and let them support him. Alright, the UK wants to send down troops there to make sure the agreed peace is carried out..lol. Why can't the UK enforce a reasonable peace that includes Ukraine on the table instead of going there to enforce the peace agreed without Ukriane? Maybe the UK will backout which is a reasonable action to take. LOL. Maybe the rest of NATO can go ahead and support Ukraine without the US. This is what I expect them to do to show that the US does not have the final say. Can they do it?

Hmmm. It seems NATO is nothing without the US. The UK, France, and Germany are nothing if they all cannot do anything. I expect them to show their worth now, and if they can't, mehn..... they are nothing. cheesy

In this life, make sure you are successful oooo. Even in family matters, no one will take your words serious. You go just be a bench warmer in family meetings. Wetin poor man who dem dey support wan talk when big boys and girls drop money? This is the fate of Africa too. This is the fate of black South Africa too, and it is the reason Trump has the gut to say that they are confisticating land of the white. Which land white get for South Africa? cheesy Get money ooo. Walahi. Else, dem go feed you poo and sh*t.
America has tried for Ukraine, if all Europe cannot stand up against Putin now , then shame on them
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by jayce232: 9:05am On Feb 19, 2025
franchasng:
Don't be too sure. Ukraine may likely reject any unfavorable peace deal and EU countries are now considering backing Ukraine fully even as UK makes plans to station military fully in Ukraine.


This Trump's one sided peace deal might turn things messy. Russia should tread with caution, whenever you think all is well with you is when trouble usually strike hardest
So what took EU this long to back Ukraine fully? They left everything to US, of what benefit is this war to US? If Ukraine president know what is good for him & his nation, he should accept any peace deal that comes out of this meeting. Once US back out of this war & he still decides to go ahead hoping on unreliable EU, he will be disgraced.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by EnterpriseMan(m): 9:05am On Feb 19, 2025
It's very easy. Ukraine has no choice or saw in this matter. Without all the tax payers funds the Biden administration has been laundering using Ukraine in form or aids, they would not have lasted a week against Russia. Trump also threatened to pull out of Nato if I remember correctly and NATO is nothing without the USA.
The leaders of UK, Germany and France are clowns and have always been. The entirety of Europe can't fight Russia so they should go sit in the corner like good old loyal dogs they are and let two countries who started the war (USA under Biden and russia) end it. Ukraine have no right at any table, they're just a tool and a very dumb one.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by justmondris: 9:07am On Feb 19, 2025
Hezzyluv:
After this war, I'm not sure Putin would invade any country again. He's tired of it already.
They play. Russia economy is doing far better than those of most EU countries. Na EU done tire of the war. If they are not tired, let them start funding the war
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Johnson5258: 9:08am On Feb 19, 2025
Hmmmn..
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by TenQ: 9:08am On Feb 19, 2025
Mrfeel:
Trump is a smart person, he himself wants to put America first just like Putin puts Russia first, trump might start some invasion of his own and nobody will be able to stop him
You will agree with me that a fool is one who cuts off his friends to please his enemy!

Who lead Europe into helping Ukraine fighting with Russia?
Was it not this same USA?

Is Europe part of this game Trump is playing?
No!

Then Trump is the COMPOUND fool!
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by TenQ: 9:10am On Feb 19, 2025
Johnson5258:
My guy, I agree with Trump 💯, he could have made a deal, they have both lost alot of men and mother Russia 🇷🇺 will stop at nothing. You are using small slap to collect big slap.
So, what deal do you think Zelensky could have made?

Lets Assume that Zelensky did not fight Russia back,
1. Would Putin still have annexed as minimum the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzia Oblasts of Ukraine?

It's a YES or NO answer please
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Rybnyk(m): 9:13am On Feb 19, 2025
sweetkev:
The thing is that Trump never forgets people who stood by him or helped him to win election. Putin interfered in his first election against Hillary Clinton and won the election. So he will stand with Russia no matter what.
Russia never interfered in any US election in 2016. The so called interference was based on a cooked up story by a certain steele. The FBI unfortunately swallowed the fake intelligence report without asking questions. Trump and Putin agree on something and it is that they are both against globalization. Imo...
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by adebowales: 9:14am On Feb 19, 2025
Hezzyluv:
After this war, I'm not sure Putin would invade any country again. He's tired of it already.
russia don’t just go to except they really feel threatened, they re not the country creating wars to sell arms. Russia is just using limited power on Ukraine. Even Russia armies are yearning for full war on Ukraine which Putin is being reluctant to sign.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Johnson5258: 9:14am On Feb 19, 2025
No.

TenQ:
So, what deal do you think Zelensky could have made?

Lets Assume that Zelensky did not fight Russia back,
1. Would Putin still have annexed as minimum the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzia Oblasts of Ukraine?

It's a YES or NO answer please
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Arrowhead71: 9:16am On Feb 19, 2025
WriteerNg:
Na baby you be.

Russia wey fight and win WW2 despite losing 27 million people?

Russia wey fight Poland for 15 years in 1795?
if Russia lost 27 millions souls, then it is not a win,
We called it truce to end the war
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by TenQ: 9:17am On Feb 19, 2025
Johnson5258:
No.
You are telling a big lie sir!

Why was it part of the first conditions of Putin?

You think Putin isn't interested in the land corridor to Cremia?
Why do you think Russia annexed these four Oblasts?


You did not answer my question
So, what deal do you think Zelensky could have made?
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Mrfeel: 9:23am On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
You will agree with me that a fool is one who cuts off his friends to please his enemy!

Who lead Europe into helping Ukraine fighting with Russia?
Was it not this same USA?

Is Europe part of this game Trump is playing?
No!

Then Trump is the COMPOUND fool!
A fool is one who starts a fight he knows he can't finish, Biden and all those who supported him are fools , Trump knows funding Ukraine against Russia is a waste of America's hard earned tax payers money, it's better for Russia to be allowed to achieve it's invasion objectives in Ukraine than continue pushing for it to escalate into a world war and put planet earth at risk of nuclear weapons
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by freakyamanda(f): 9:25am On Feb 19, 2025
You think Europe can fight Russia without US?
franchasng:
Trump you are very wrong with this one angry


Though I know you are trying to massage the ego of that Russian dictator to get him to end the senseless war he started.


But don't be too sure that it would end the war because Europe is rallying behind Ukraine now and may reject any unfavorable peace deal to Ukraine, which will escalate the war and may even get things messy cos most European leaders are angry with you Trump and Putin and may damn the consequences and back Ukraine fully which would turn the tides against Russia and Putin.


Let's watch and see
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Arrowhead71: 9:25am On Feb 19, 2025
Edusouls:
Were are all those western ass licking fools supporting every evil done by America? Zelensky was a disaster to Ukraine, NATO u no get, lands with minerals lost forever, ur people are now refugees in other peoples country, thousands of lives of young men lost in a futile fighting, finally ur god America don dump you
look at you, no agreement has been reached and you already celebrating your blood thirsty lunatic Putin, you are not concerned about the agony of mother’s of Russia soldiers killed also in Ukraine, you think it is easy,
We condemn Putin aggression against his own blood family Ukrainians , and you term it another thing
If Putin is strong, he should have pick a fight with his mate and not a weak and poorly armed Ukraine
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Shattuck(m): 9:27am On Feb 19, 2025
adioolayi:
You are making decisions on behalf of a "Sovereign State" .. without their presencehuh

So, what's Sovereigntyhuh

Ukraine should fight to death!!!
they will lose, the only reason they made it this far was by being supported by the US with financial, military hardware, and technical support, if Trump put a pause to these aids Russia will take total control of Ukraine, according to some report Russia already has taken control of about 20percent of Ukraine vastly rich land.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by TenQ: 9:33am On Feb 19, 2025
Mrfeel:
A fool is one who starts a fight he knows he can't finish, Biden and all those who supported him are fools , Trump knows funding Ukraine against Russia is a waste of America's hard earned tax payers money, it's better for Russia to be allowed to achieve it's invasion objectives in Ukraine than continue pushing for it to escalate into a world war and put planet earth at risk of nuclear weapons
Putin started a fight he couldn't finish without becoming the fool of the century.

It is taking America through Trump to give Putin a face saving exit from the war. Who do you think is calling the Shots here? It is not Putin, it is Trump!


If Ukraine lost, it is because of BETRAYAL and not incompetence!

A war that should last 3 days is almost 3 years with the second greatest army in the world!?
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Shattuck(m): 9:34am On Feb 19, 2025
freakyamanda:
You think Europe can fight Russia without US?
Europe can fight and defeat Russia the only concern would be will these nations be willing collectively to engage russia, even in the war in Ukraine you would notice France was initially reluctant to support Ukraine's nato membership application, even Germany at some point criticized the US sanctions on russia's energy supply to Europe, issues like these are what may limit Europe to engage with Russia in a war, but say every European/ nato nations willingly put out their entire army to fight Russia, Russia will be defeated in record time.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Denko2721987(m): 9:34am On Feb 19, 2025
sweetkev:
The thing is that Trump never forgets people who stood by him or helped him to win election. Putin interfered in his first election against Hillary Clinton and won the election. So he will stand with Russia no matter what.
Oh pleaseeeee... This old tale is stale
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